ok heres what you do at this point in the game. Distance yourself from her for about 5-7 days. If texts you about dinner or a hang out sesh tell her that you're busy that day seeing a girl. But you don't just say "girl". Give a name. "Yea, Sarah an I are going to the museum" Something like that. I think you get the picture.

Make her wait for a while if she texts you before responding. Sometimes a day, sometimes two. When the allotted number of days above has passed, set up a photo shoot with her again. This time, I want you to take a couple shots of her, all in different poses, and then, put the camera down and say, "Look, I'm trying to be professional here. Seriously I think I should go." And she'll be like, "what, why?" Then you say, "You look different today. Idk what it is, but I'm trying so hard not to kiss you right now." Then walk up close to her and wrap your hands gently around that fine ass/lower lower back and repeat, "So I think I should get going." Then quickly take your hands of and turn so that body is sideways in relation to her front point of view and cross your arms. That's when you'll look over at her and say, "Unless you can call it a day. Then we can just hang and relax." She'll be surprised. She'll be feeling so many different things at once if you can pull this little maneuver over correctly.

After that, relocate her to a couch or to her bed. Somewhere the both of you can lie down and have cuddle room while you talk. Get comfy. Get close. Slow everything down. Now you wanna get her laughing and/or excited. I think then and only then will this girl be comfortable kissing you. That's how girls are man. They're like ovens. You gotta preheat them. So find out if she's ticklish in advance. Even if she's not ticklish, you can play fight. As soon as you have this girl laughing, go in for the kill. Seriously, roll on top of her if you have to just so that your faces are barely touching, and BAM!!! it'll happen. Spank her a bit. Pull her hair. Honestly, do WHATEVER you have to do to get her aroused or even just to play along with your game of pretend fighting.

This is the best advice I can give you at this point, man. She wants you, but what she wants and needs are two different things. She needs to turned on enough for you to get the proper chance to strike. I wouldn't give you this advice if I wouldn't try this sort of thing for myself. Good luck. And get on with it!!! I wanna hear good things!!!

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Alright, so I thought about this suggestion for a while. The freezing part is fine with me, I planned on doing just that anyway.
However, I don't think the rest could work for me. It's not a bad idea per se, I just think it doesn't suit my character, and I hate to act in PU. I'm a very high-energy, exciting person, so I doubt playing that role would get across the right message. Plus, a third photoshoot? That just seems weird.

I think I'll just leave it at freezing her for the moment, I'm busy with uni anyway. If she comes back to me wanting to hang out, I'll reevaluate...

PS: I love how this almost became a community project Keep the inputs coming, much appreciated!

Yea I thought you two did the photo shoots like twice a week or something like that. Nevermind then. But it's still a good way to escalate if you need it. Anyway, good luck with the freeze out!

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Man she's so obviously into you, just make the mov...
Ah, that had already been said, sorry .

Ehehe just kidding, keep the telenovela going, we want the new episodes!

Hah, I almost feel obliged to give you all the little updates

So rehearsal the other day went well, she (let's call her A) smiled at me unusually often. Other than that, the freezeout is still going on, no message from her.
Also, I found a possible explanation for her ASD. I'm text gaming another chick (let's call her B) on the side, and unfortunately, they're in the same class. A good friend of mine told me that they generally don't have much to do with each other, but who knows. Neither of the girls have asked me about the other one, so that's still working, I guess.
A has jokingly asked me if I was a player a while ago, since I rarely tell stories from uni that involve male friends (roughly 70-80% girls in my faculty), I said yes. Didn't seem to repel her, but now that she has competition in her own environment... I'm all for competition, but that's a tricky one to play.

And here comes the interesting part: next week, the two girls will almost inevitably meet. I'll be pretty busy with other things during the time B will be around, but the situation could still get a little hairy. I know I'm not doing anything wrong, but I could end up losing both of them. Any tips on how to handle that?

Well, first question that springs to my mind:

If you are really interested in A, as you seem to be, why would you risk losing her for someone that is not really special for you, namely, B?

Just so that you can tell to yourself, and/or secretly hope A will get to know and you send off the vibes of "I ain't got no feelings and one-itis, I don't give a ****, I game everyone" ?

Of course, not texting B will not guarantee you to get A, but still, if you really care about someone... Just maximize your chances .

After thinking it through, I don't think I'm putting my chances with any of them on the line. It's an open stage night where I'm the host, A will be acting and B will be in the audience. I'll eject rather quickly after the show, because I have to go to uni the next day. I'll probably be spending some time with A before and some time with B after the show, so not much danger of one noticing the other.
In the unlikely event of one or both confronting me about it, I'll just tell them that I'm single and therefore free, just like they are. If they're jealous of each other, I'll be willing to share.

Another update!

Last night I met B for the first time in person. A bit of background: she randomly added me on FB a few months ago, so I decided to invite her to said open stage night so I could meet her in person, because I think it's awkward to have people you don't know on your FB. She got my number from a friend and started texting me, and she was making her interest very clear from the beginning. Apparently, she knew who I was (we went to the same high school), but I didn't. Anyway, she came to the open stage night, and, being the host, I was DHV'd all over the place. After the show, I walked up to her, chatted a bit but had to eject every now and then because of people wanting to talk to me or needing me for something else, which is a good thing, I guess, because it kept her on her toes. I performed 2-3 magic tricks (learn the mentalism ones, those are the best) on her. She was amazed, and shortly after, we were in a bit more secluded space. A friend of mine distracted her sister that she brought and I pulled the "Would you say you're adventurous/spontaneous/a good kisser"-routine, it worked and it was on, k-closed, heavy makeout.

At that point, A had already left the location, but a good friend of hers stayed and also witnessed that and I'm 99% sure she'll tell A. A has gone pretty stale as a target, so currently, I'm not gaming her; it's just confusing how many IOIs I got but she rejected methe other day. Anyway, let's see where the added competition takes the whole thing.... I'll keep you posted gents

Thanks for the update, let's get that A rocking .

I don't know about the two emboldened and highlighted parts, would you be able to elaborate a bit?

Ok, mentalism card tricks:

Basically, those are tricks in which you find hercard in the end, rather than 'moving' cards from one pile to another, or flipping one single card around in the deck or any other tricks that center on you. Why are these better? Instead of showing how magic you are yourself, you demonstrate that you can effortlessly access her mind. This takes rapport a whole lot further, similar to routines like The Cube or the Freud Test. What I also like to do is predict eye movements upon questions I ask, you get stunning and stunned reactions

that routine I used:

I personally think this routine is uber cheap. However, I had already pulled uber cheap texting routines on her and they all worked, so I thought I'd give it a go, because she was showing insane amounts of interest anyway. The routine goes as follows:

YOU: Would you say you're adventurous?
HER: Yes/Maybe (you probably won't get a No here, since people don't want to seem boring)
YOU: Would you say you're spontaneous?
HER: Yes/Maybe (again, as above)
YOU: Would you say you're a good kisser?
HER: Yes/Maybe (YOU: "Let's see" and go in for the kiss), No (If she leans away from you or shows other signs of disinterest, leave it at that, otherwise YOU: "can't be that bad" and you go in for it).

The trick in this routine is that your target builds pressure on herself with the first two questions by answering them positively, because it sure would be adventurous and spontaneous to kiss you.

Also, I've got another question.... B almost was too easy to close, she's basically already offering me to F-close her. Have you ever had the feeling that a chick isn't worth it because she's too easy? B is a 7.5-8, roughly, but still...

As for A, I'll pull her aside in the next rehearsal because I need to talk to her about something stage-related, so if she's jealous, I'll notice

I've read over all your posts. Honestly, I'm not entirely convinced girl A is attracted to you. This could be for many reasons.

But if you look back at all the messages you've posted on this thread, you've never once told us how you FELT. You're making it seem like your entire mission is to sleep with this girl. But even then, you've never even described how she looks, or what attracts you to her. Your posts are extremely factual and unemotional... Like it's a huge game. Like you're the play-by-play announcer of the most boring and defensive hockey game. There is absolutely no colour in your words -- just the suspense of what the next date will bring. You have no difficulty whatsoever freezing her out (when in reality, this should be at the very minimum unpleasant to you). I can only imagine how awkward your attempts to kiss her were. Out of the blue and completely random perhaps? A kiss should always be well timed and fitting with the context, the mood, the conversation, etc.

This is in sharp contrast to the average AFC who posts his heartbreak story and how much he wants to be with his distant girlfriend or girl that's been rejecting and ignoring him.

The reason why I point this out is because if you communicate like that to HER, then she's probably not feeling you, and you've failed to create any emotional connection whatsoever. I'm guessing that your demeanour on here is rather identical to your demeanour with her. If that's the case, she sees you as a rock. You don't give off vibes of emotion and feelings. And if she THINKS you're a player, then she'll just think you see her as a tool.

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I see your point... but to be perfectly honest, I simply didn't want to provide all the unnecessary details, because that's what usually makes me skim through posts, which results in not reading them thoroughly enough.
But while we're at it, we could try

A is an 8-9, half asian, petite girl, about 1.5 years younger than me. She's got shiny, long, dark hair and is quite snappy, which is probably what I like most about her. I could imagine actually dating her, but not right now, because I don't want to go from one serious relationship into the next. Also, some friends wouldn't approve of me dating her, because when we first met, we were always lightly flirting (apparently, I wasn't really conscious of it), which made my gf at the time a bit angry... And I play improv with her, which could possibly end up awkwardly. Like I said, she's gone a bit stale, but let's see where the newest events lead.

B is a 7.5-8.5, white, also quite petite chick, same age as me. She's blonde, which is actually not my type but I still find her quite attractive. Like I described in a previous post, she actually 'approached' me. She's been throwing herself at me ever since, I've been text gaming her and K-closed her the other day, which couldn't have been easier. She might just be too easy, I like a challenge. I don't think I would actually date her, but I could imagine turning her into an FB, depending on her qualities between the sheets.

As for the freezing her out, I must admit that it wasn't particularly hard, because A is not very active when it comes to texting or being online. Also, I see her every week, which makes it pretty easy. Freezing out B is probably the easiest thing ever, because 1. she texts very often, so it's a nice break and 2. she texts back at least the next day.

I have to say that my writing style does not really resemble my character... Especially in English, which is a language I mostly write academically in, actively avoiding too much colour.

I'm not saying that I'm extraordinarily emotional, but I definitely am not a rock

You don't need to defend yourself. I was merely pointing out what could be wrong so that I can assist you. Point being that you've likely failed to create an emotional connection or any similar connection. And also, you don't even talk to girl A on a regular basis. So in my opinion, you're in the dreaded friend zone with her. She probably doesn't object to you touching her all over because she's more liberal. But three times you tried to kiss her and she pulled away. That's not really a good sign. How have things been since that day?

From what it seems, I would personally put girl A on the back burner until we're sure what's happening with her. Concentrate your efforts on girl B for now.

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You're right, I haven't really talked to A much in the last few days, except for the rehearsals of course.You may be right about the friendzone, but that wouldn't explain my privilege of touching her (like I said before, I can touch her butt whenever I want, but she reacts very strongly to others doing the same thing, even close friends)... I don't think she's liberal in that aspect, really.
In the last few days, things have been as always with her, I don't feel like anything has changed since I tried to kiss her. I know that currently, she's not really up for dating, for whatever reason... I might have to make her realise that at least for now, a relationship is not what I'm pursuing. Let's see how she acts the next time, which is the first time I'll see her since making out with B, who is a classmate of hers.

Your suggestion is actually what I'm doing right now Although there's not much effort to put into B, she's doing all the work... I can just let it happen Very comfortable situation indeed, but she's almost too easy! Have you ever had that, a girl being so easy you almost lost interest?

Thanks man, very interesting stuff .

About what you were saying on "very easy to catch" girls, I agree with you, it happens to me as well and I tend to lose some of the interest.
It also happens with girls I deem quite low on the intelligence scale and/or with whom I can't communicate properly because of severe limitation in their language skills (don't know why, also with guys, I find it hard to give full respect to people at work who are poor communicator/speakers/writers).


P.S.: what a bunch of depraved group of friends are you in, constantly trying to grope their own, non consentient, female friends' asses?