Hi Fellas,

Hope your sarges are going good.

I'm a 22 yr old, good looking guy, from India.

It all started with joining David De Angelo's mail list.

I followed through his mails, got his "Body Language" program & decided to take action.

But, I took it very seriously. I mean really serious on my each action & movement as he explains in that seminar.

After practicing that a lot, my body language became so strong that now Women themselves open to me via body language clues like making eye contact for more than 10 seconds, moving hands through her hair, biting her lips, constantly spying/stalking on me.

I literally turn heads, when I enter a cafeteria of almost 80 women(I work at a corporate company), because my movements are slow & seductive.

But, till this far its good, but not any further.

Come to know about this forum, while googling for "pick up". I didn't knew there are dedicated forums for pick up in particular!! Read "The Game", heard about "The Mystery Method", but read that little in-between some pages.

Since I'm a newbie, I still feel insecure in ACTUALLY talking with women.

I come off as shy, introvert, asshole(because I give off IOD, when she gives IOI).

And more so, I've lost friendship with many of my best friends, because they say & feel I'm too much kind of a lone-seeking person(kind of Ultra-Independent).

I'm unable to talk much with men too. I just present my body properly & become a passive listentener in any conversation. but they not knowing much of body language, perceive me as shy, silent type of guy.

I think I'm facing how to build comfort & rapport. My face looks always seriuos. I go to Gym. I think I'm posing an agrresive b@stard image, which is wrong.

I find it hard to concentrate on maintaining body langugage & simultaneously talk/build comfort or rapport. But, my body still feels confident when I don't talk with

them. It's like my body is DHV'ing, but my mind is DLV'ing.

So, I'm thinking of taking body language less seriously & build comfort first. But, its coming off as too hard. I feel I'm losing state of confidence when I try to

concentrate on building comfort.

Any suggestion/advice on what am I doing wrong, what's the better way to do it??

Hi, welcome to the forum!

I think I'm like you in many ways - I'm not very comfortable talking to people, even if they give strong IoIs. You say you have your body language handled, I'd say practice building comfort while trying to maintain good body language. You don't want to forget about something you've already learned. Don't worry too much about the end result, just focus on having a fun interaction.

Good luck!

This would be what they call congruence. That is what you need to work on. Your body language is showing the traits of the "Alpha-male" however when you speak... You aren't congruent with what you are portraying. Pick Up is alot about working on yourself and finding your path to become the person that you want to be. Your speaking comes down to your level of confidence in what you are saying... If you tell her that the sky is green and you are DAMN confident about it... THAT is what counts. To make yourself sound more confident... Talk from your chest instead of your throat. It takes practice to naturally talk in that way but you will notice people are more receptive to you. Also, slow down and enunciate each word that you are saying. It isn't really what you are saying that makes you sound confident, it is the vibe you put behind it. I was in sales and I noticed that when I would slow down and actually think about what was coming out of my mouth and say it slow to myself... What I was saying would become alot more credible because it didn't seem like I was trying to just spit out what I had to say. (it also makes what ever you are saying much more interesting to listen to because your tone is slowed down... You can say half as much in the same amount of time.)

Being quick witted is also what helped me in situations like such... I felt the same way for a while. Work on your response time and THINK before you speak when she throws one of her "shit tests" your way. The cool thing is... If your speech is slowed down, this will naturally give you that extra split second to generate a good response without it sounding like you are hesitating. This will honestly come from experience. Girls will throw tests at you to test your frame when you are talking just to see how you respond. That is where you can make or break yourself.

You have every right to feel confident in yourself. If you work hard and are becoming the man that YOU want to become... Your confidence in your speaking and your body language will become natural. Honestly... speaking is only about 10% factored into pick up. Everything else is based off micro calibrating body language and escalating kino the right way. But that 10% means something when that other 90% doesn't.