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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:48 am 
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Ok so today I woke up committed to getting used to club game. My friends and I (none of them PUA's) hit up a club in NYC called Phuket for anyone of you who know the place. We get there early when they're not that many people, HB's walking everywhere though. we buy some bottles and sit down, already I'm thinking to myself "Open Some damn Sets" but the little bitch in me tells me that the venue is too empty yet, i don't want to get blown out and lower my value by showing girls I have no social Proof (Stupid I know) i sit down and cross my legs, trying to look alpha, when four girls sit next to us, 2 of them where at the very least HB's 8's. I continue to chat with my friends when one of the 8's taps my leg and says

HB 8 #1. "Hey, Do you mind taking a picture of us?
Myth03. "Now what would you say if i told you i did mind?" (said with a big smile on my face)
HB 8 #1. "I would turn my head away and apologize"
Myth03 "I don't take pictures Honey, but maybe i could help you out"

I signal some random guy who was passing by and forced him to take a picture of the girls. Of coarse the girls made him stand there like an idiot taking picture after picture after picture until they were satisfied. I reopen the HB 8 #1
Myth03 "you see, thats why i dont take pictures, because people never like the damn pictures and ask the person to take more pictures, this takes an hour and you girls are never satisfied"
HB 8 #1, "no I would never do that to you"
HB 8 #2 (initial Target) "OMG!!! Thats exactly what we did to that guy! HAHA"

I then laugh and agree with them and then turn my back to them for a second to see if they would engage me again then my target tapped me and introduced herself and ask me for my name, i gave it, and then i looked at the other 8 and introduced myself she also complied and proceeded to introduce me to the other girls. after taking a look i then realize that my target is actually a 9... she was so hot!

HB 9 "Are those guys your friends? Yea? I like the way you guys are clean cut and dressed nice. We all should party together!"
Myth03 "Wait are you guys cool enough to party with us?! I dont think so"
HB 8 "No are YOU cool enough to hang with us (said while the 9 was in the background laughing her ass off)
Myth03 "listen idk if you guys can roll with us, as a matter of fact i dont think you should, we're too toxic (credit to Mystery for that one) if you roll with us you'll end up in a lot of trouble"
HB8 "we can handle it... we're more trouble then you are"
I look at her smile and say.... "yea sure!" (sarcastically)

I was getting extreme IOI's from both girls, i thought my target was better but she was also farther away. I ask my friend to take a picture of us and then get up and sit in the middle and hug both girls. and then sit back where i was originally sitting to make it easier to speak to both of them.

I started talking to the 8 which i found amazingly cute and fun, we do some party moves, she's such a sweetheart (0h so i thought!) i introduce my whole crew into theirs and we get a big ass group going. I already decided i wanted the 8 so i started doing little subtle test that probably don't mean anything but I did them. For Example, at one point we were all standing dancing to the beat and then i sat down to see if she would sit down too, She did i reopened the convo again. she asked me my age, i asked her to guess, she guessed 21 i said a little higher she guessed 26 i told her "God No, Calm down" I told her my age and she smiled and said "OK"

This is where things get confusing and I would love it if any one of you more experienced guys would help me. i sat down and i was confident she was into me, actually i knew she was. I sat down and said
Myth03: "I wanna try something with you, i wanna see if we share a connection, No i dont know if i'm going to get this right but if I do that means we're compatible, if i get it wrong.... then i cant talk to you anymore"
HB8: "Haha Ok i wont talk to you if you get it wrong" Sarcastically said
I take her glass away from her and face her
Myth03: While looking deep into her eyes "Think of a Number between 1 and 10, the first number that pops into you head, Got it?! Now don't change it...... (look Deep into her eyes as if looking for the answer inside them somewhere) 7!
HB8: (stares at me with a smile) OMG
Myth03: Ok lets try this again, Oh the pressure is on.... Pick a number from 1-4.... 3
HB8: does that mean we're compatable?
Myth03: Idk, What do you think?
HB8: (Smiles) Yes

at this point this girl is giving me IOI's left and right, I know she wants me so while we're sitting down.
Myth03: "I gotta get this out the way now!"
Pull out my phone and hand it to her,
HB8: "oh you want my number? are you trying to bag me?!
Myth03 "Yes!"
HB8 : "ok! I respect that, it takes a lot of balls for a guy to ask for my number"
she put her number in my phone and called it herself, as I was saving it, she asked me "Are You single?" I was fucking in.
I said no (I have a girlfriend) and then i corrected myself
Myth03: "Actually no, I am not single, I'm sort of talking to someone, Nothing Serious though, its casual!"
"Oh ok, as long as you're single we're fine, I'm not a home wrecker I respect myself and my body way to much for that and i dont want to be the reason someone is unfaithful to their partner"
I smiled and nodded, thinking to myself, "If Only She Knew"
So, so far it seems like a great time and it was, but things got a little weird. We were grinding on each other and i turned her towards me, she was looking at me and she had her eyes pierced on mine, I said to her
MYTH03 : "On a scale of 1-10 how good of a kisser are you?
HB8: I don't know, and I don't wanna find out

I kept dancing smiled right after she said it. she continued giving me IOI's she's drinking more and more, I'm not drinking she then jumps all over me and is seemingly following me around.
on my way to the bathroom i run into a girl that i know that is pretty damn hot, i tell her where we are and moments later she shows up with her friend. now at this point HB8 has been acting a little strange with me... cold like if she's lost interest in me so i think to myself, this is the perfect time to introduce a jealousy plot line... I start talking to the other girl i know and we start flirting her friend starts talking to me too but she doesn't seemed entertained by my charm, although i did make her laugh plenty of times. I then feel my hand pulled and its the HB8 dancing and holding my hand, she pulls me towards her and starts dancing with me, we sit down after and i tell her
Myth03 "I'm going to be straight up with you, because thats just the type of person i am. but I am trying so hard not to kiss you right now" her response shocked the hell out of me
HB8: "Don't! I would be mad if you do i would get mad"
Myth03 "Let me finish, you need to listen girl... I Wouldn't kiss you cause your drink and i would feel like in some strange way i would be taking advantage of you"
HB8: Ok good, Cause i would get mad, and i would feel disrespected if you tried to kiss me, cause im drunk and dont want to kiss you. And i respect that you think that way"
I was pissed and confused. I was trying to go back in my head and wonder what i did wrong, where i fucked up. was it the fact i didn't open any other sets or what. I

I was tired of her and a little put off so i got up and started talking to the girl i knew, trying to make her jealous. The two girls later joined their friends and i was stuck with all these girls dancing with each other. the HB9 who had previously blown hookah smoke into my mouth (no lips touching) passed by my and gave me the look. but i had already given an accomplishment introduction to my best friend so i stayed away, until we started dancing like crazy, she put my hand on her ass she grabbed my face and she humped the life out of me, and then right after she started dancing with my best friend. I said my good byes and when i tried saying good bye to the 8 she kinda ignored me and kept dancing and then i said bye to everyone else and went back to her and she gave me her hand and said nice to meet you and snatched it away.

At this point my friend was already going crazy with the 9 and he tried to kiss her, he kinda did but she moved away after, I didn't want to leave without him getting her number so i sat down and mingled with the other girls, and then made eye contact with the 8 she smiled and said
HB8 : I thought you were leaving.
Myth03 : you sound disappointed that I'm still here
HB8 : NO! I'm Just Drunk
Myth03 Are you going to remember me tomorrow when you're sober (AFC I KNOW!)
HB8: No... You're Unforgettable.
Myth03 : listen thursday me and my friends are going to my fav bar in nyc. you should def come along,
HB 8: OK!

My best friend couldn't get the number cause the girl had a boyfriend. And now I'm Upset and confused. I keep going through my mind where i went wrong, did i go overboard with the jealousy thing, was i chasing her too much, Was it that i didn't make her qualify to me before i number closed, was it that she indeed got too drunk and couldn't really function. All i know is that not taking things Personal is a lot easier said than done, I also regret not opening any other sets besides those girls, i mean there were sooooo manyyyy beautiful girls in that venue.

But to look on the bright side i did have her extremely interested for however long. But i need help on this one guys

Myth03


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:55 am 
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This is only my opinion:]

Your introduction was awesome. I don't think I've really seen many people do scripted game like that, full on cat string theory, technical game.

I think this is where you started the decline
Quote:
HB8: "oh you want my number? are you trying to bag me?!
Myth03 "Yes!"
Myth03
In that kind of technical game you were doing great on cat string Frame (She follows you)..Then you go direct out of nowhere. This could work, but it seems you don't have that sexual wolverine I believe you need in that kind of environment when you go direct. You sort of just turned into another guy after awhile most likely.
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- she asked me "Are You single?
-On a scale of 1-10 how good of a kisser are you?
-HB8: I don't know, and I don't wanna find out
Myth03
You still had a chance to reframe and go back to being mysterious and play cat string (which you were really good at) But instead you decide to keep going direct. She was not happy to go that direction and not only were you getting confused but you were killing attraction slowly.

You knocked her shit test out pretty good though
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I kept dancing smiled right after she said it. she continued giving me IOI's she's drinking more and more, I'm not drinking she then jumps all over me and is seemingly following me around.
Myth03
Your still in the game at this point Note: Shes following you around (Cat chasssinnnggg)
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I then feel my hand pulled and its the HB8 dancing and holding my hand, she pulls me towards her and starts dancing with me
Myth03
I think this is a point where you really fucked up. I could be wrong since I don't know how she pulled you to dance, but this would be a perfect opportunity to reframe: "Hey now, Im not that easy, buy me a drink first" - Something like that. Something that would put into perspective cat theory or you being the prize or whatever lol.
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we sit down after and i tell her
Myth03 "I'm going to be straight up with you, because thats just the type of person i am. but I am trying so hard not to kiss you right now" her response shocked the hell out of me
HB8: "Don't! I would be mad if you do i would get mad"
Myth03
You let her lead you then continue a Frame which she keeps trying to tell you shes not interested in
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Myth03 "Let me finish, you need to listen girl... I Wouldn't kiss you cause your drink and i would feel like in some strange way i would be taking advantage of you"
HB8: Ok good, Cause i would get mad, and i would feel disrespected if you tried to kiss me, cause im drunk and dont want to kiss you. And i respect that you think that way"
Myth03
Okay now you've kinda pushed the frame to a point were your the cat and your chasing lol.

No point in going on further because you fucked it all up right there, she has the power and shes lost attraction.

You were doing great at lots of points, she definetly enjoyed chasing. However Im not sure if you always go direct when you generate a considerable amount of attraction, but this one wasn't biting. I think that reframing of cat string to direct would of worked perfectly in the daytime or a lower paced environment.

Hot girl and a short attention span and a club environment and a party vibe and friends. Hmmm lol

I personally don't really use game going out to a club, Im more of the guy just ravagely escalating right from the get go(touching her back straight away, telling her she's hot, kissing her - really not giving a fuck and manning up) So I can't say I've used this method.

But from my experience and understanding I hope that helps and you can get better pushing that mysterious frame all the way to your house and into her pussy next time :]

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:26 pm 
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Thanks Buddy. That's amazing stuff, I can actually see the mistakes now, and it's amusing how easily things could have been turned around, it's all about the subtleties, not going up to her when she pulled me, not falling into her frame but continuing to control her's. I also regret i didn't isolate her from the group. I'm new to club game, i usually go to bars, so I'm going to try some of that wolverine, caveman style you were talking about next time i'm in a club. I got her number, I think I'm going to text her today or tomorrow for shits and giggles.

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