So I was dating this gorgeous, tiny bisexual latino girl. We had wild sex, but she wasn't into threesomes, which I was fine with even though I really wanted to pound her while she was playing passionately with another girl.

Well - we had an argument and she met a girl she wanted to have sex with. The girls even bought a strap-on dildo for the occation. The girl I was dating and I became friends again the day before the sex was about to take place, and I was supportive as I know she prefers girls anyway and really wanted to do this.
The problem is that the other girl asked if her room mate (male) could join in on the fun, and the girl I was dating said yes. So now another man has had the experience I have dreamt of for so long, simply by being at the right place at the right time.

Needless to say I made it very clear to the girl I was dating how disappointed I was that some other random dude got this experience instead of me. Yesterday she called me and wants to be friends again. She has said that we can find another girl and have a threesome, but I know she gets jelaous and since we have feelings for each other I fear that it will never happen.
Also I am pretty sure she will engage in more threesomes with the other couple as well, and there is no way the other girl is going to dump her room mate to make room for me (she is the loyal kind, I think).

So - how the hell do I approach this? I know that this bisexual girl really wants to hook up and have sex. She invited me over yesterday and wants me to come to her place as soon as I can. The thing is that if we go back to screwing each other as if nothing has happened I don't think I will get any closer to getting a threesome. But if I deny her sex until I get a threesome, I think she is even more likely to go back to the couple she has already slept with to get her sexual tension released.

It's quite a dilemma, actually.

Now first I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you've never experienced a threesome before, right?
It's true they can be fun and incredibly hot, but they can also be a lot of hard work and disappointment.
Make sure you know what your partners want out of it too.

I'd say keep banging the bi-sexual beauty even though she might have another threesome with the roomie. You have to realize that what you have here is what AFC-Adam would call a logistical issue. Yeah they are going invite the roomate in, because she is loyal to him, but...

...What if the threesome isn't taking place at her apartment? Dude, keep having sex with her, it's fine. Think of it as Epic-Gaming in a club. instead of having to isolate her away from her friends. You just have to isolate two girls away from the roomie. Now it doesn't seem like it's such a dilemma right?

Have fun and Good luck out there.

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Because i can.

I've had a fivesome with me, three girls and another dude once. The problem was that I ...ehem...kind of overdosed on viagra and had the mother of all headaches, so I didn't enjoy it at all.
Yeah, we've talked about this, and what I primarily want is to see two hot girls have passionate sex right in front of me, and just add to the experience by poking around a bit here and there to supplement the girls going at it.
True enough, but since "my" bisexual girl and I had an argument after this threesome (she provoked me by rubbing it in my face), I know for a fact that she has presented me as a moron to the other girl and her roomate. The odds of us having a threesome with this particular girl is therefore very slim indeed.

On the other hand, the girl I was dating is not a people person - she has very low social intelligence and has already had a fight with the couple she was banging and threw them out of her parents house (where she lives). If she somehow loses this other couple and I won't put out until I get a threesome, I think this might give her the incentive she needs to haul ass and make this dream come true.
In the meantime I will be searching dating sites for bisexuals, and for people looking for one night stands, to find a suitable girl.

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Thanks!

Wow, face-rubbing and her smack talking about you to the others are harsh man, I feel you! And you're absolutely right that can really mess up your game. I'd say that finding a new third person for the threesome is a solid response.

But listen, if you have this kind of open relationship you have to be completely okay with her having a threesome with the other two, it cannot move you the slightest - be like "you did that? Nice!" *High5*

You've had some experience with multiple partners at the same time and you know how to manage expectations - Great! This is really important.

If you're worried about her jealousy, all you have to do is make the threesome about her, it sounds like you already want to have a threesome because you want two hot chicks playing around with each other in your bed. Great, find a girl that wants her and then let her (the girl your dating) control the interactions, she won't get jealous that way.

Having sex with her might not get you closer to a threesome, but not having sex with her at all will only make it harder.

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No matter how much cats fight, there always seem to be plenty of kittens. ~Abraham Lincoln

Because i can.

Yeah, I must make the threesome be about her, which is what I really want anyway.
I have talked with a lot of PUAs (both on-line and IRL) and the majority seem to conclude that I should not give her any sex until I get my threesome. That would definitely frustrate her a lot, and it would give me more control I think. Or maybe not - but if I keep giving her what she wants I don't think she'll be motivated to find another chick.

The fun thing is that I was joking about this with a gorgeous croation girl that randomly poked me on facebook. Judging from her photos, I'd say she's a HB8.
Since I have no interest in pen pals, I quickly started talking to her about sex and found out that she is bisexual and has both a boyfriend and a (gorgeous HB8+) girlfriend. She told me she'll be back in Europe for vacation this summer (she now lives in New York) and told me she'd like to have a threesome with me and her girlfriend if I hook up with them.
I'm gonna feel like the biggest moron ever if I go to St. Tropez and it turns out that this is just some practical joke, but then again having a week alone in St. Tropez is not the end of the world.

Yeah, that's because a lot of community guys are all about control and "not playing into her frame" and that's fine, but if you haven't been doing that up until now you're going to break pattern and seems incongruent which will create situation that you have to defuse like her being "why are you so cold" or maybe completely weeding you out, or start flaking and you don't want that.

Another thing about community guys is that A LOT of them are not calibrated, they know exactly what to do in your situation, but they would have handled every interaction with this girl differently than you have so far, so when you do what they say you might end up with a problem that they've disqualified a long time ago when it wasn't that important.

This is true for everyone in here, me too. Just remember that when taking advice be calibrated; think would this break pattern too much, or not? Will it be something that'll help my game later or be counter productive? Then you'll be fine.

This is how I'm thinking about it.
Situation 1. Not sleeping with her.
It will give me more immediate control, it will frustrate her maybe even make her chase me. It also gives me less long term control, fewer opportunities to influence her and there's a chance she might move on to another.

Situation 2. I keep sleeping with her.
I abandon short term control, but show her that I am placing no value in the threesome, which in turn makes it less of an issue for her, she is still getting what she wants so she isn't moving on and I have plenty of opportunity to game and influence her while I'm stuffing her.

This is how my brain works. We've got two options now I've analyzed them both, then I think about would be better styled for my type of game? Which option is most calibrated from my perspective? What would she respond best to (If I know her)

And yeah. If the threesome doesn't work out a holly-day isn't the worst way to get over it

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No matter how much cats fight, there always seem to be plenty of kittens. ~Abraham Lincoln

Because i can.

Hmmm....I think you might be onto something. Perhaps the best way is to just ignore her messages from time to time, pretend that I am now only 75% as interested as before, yet still give her amazing sex so she'll want to hang on. Then bring up the threesome every now and then and giver her a mild push-pull reaction every time she makes up an excuse not to include another girl.