Just When Is an Apology in Order?



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:42 pm 
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Well, there's this girl I see at church, and we've been stealing glances at each other for months, even if we've never met. Well, last Sunday, I finally man up enough, and break the ice.

Picture the scene, for a moment. I tap her on the shoulder, she turns towards me, and her eyes go wide. "Hi!" she smilingly squeaks, voice tinged with helium. So far, so good, ain't it?

And then, I speak.

Notice that one reason why I haven't said anything to her over the course of moths is that I couldn't think of anything to say as an ice-breaker, but this Sunday, upon noticing her donning of pigtails, think that she's given me the in I've so long sought.

And thus, into this smiling, wide-eyed girl's face, I say, essentially: "Pigtails at your age? Do you even know how to dress yourself?" And thus mortified, the poor smarting from this senseless, pie-in-the-face insult, turns her face away as quickly as it turned to, and I make my exit, preserving my social value (if you can even call it that) as a smirking cad, willing to anything, and and totally unconcerned with the feelings of others.

Especially my target, even with her mother right next to her.

So what's my next move, come Sunday? An apology seems in order, plus it's a logical plausible ice-breaker, given what's come before.

Any better ideas? Or, should I just lie low, and is there any specific way in apology that would be good? How to build attraction, or at least salvage it?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:06 pm 
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Don't apologize? Serious?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:03 am 
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Well, there's this girl I see at church, and we've been stealing glances at each other for months, even if we've never met. Well, last Sunday, I finally man up enough, and break the ice.

Picture the scene, for a moment. I tap her on the shoulder, she turns towards me, and her eyes go wide. "Hi!" she smilingly squeaks, voice tinged with helium. So far, so good, ain't it?

And then, I speak.

Notice that one reason why I haven't said anything to her over the course of moths is that I couldn't think of anything to say as an ice-breaker, but this Sunday, upon noticing her donning of pigtails, think that she's given me the in I've so long sought.

And thus, into this smiling, wide-eyed girl's face, I say, essentially: "Pigtails at your age? Do you even know how to dress yourself?" And thus mortified, the poor smarting from this senseless, pie-in-the-face insult, turns her face away as quickly as it turned to, and I make my exit, preserving my social value (if you can even call it that) as a smirking cad, willing to anything, and and totally unconcerned with the feelings of others.

Especially my target, even with her mother right next to her.

So what's my next move, come Sunday? An apology seems in order, plus it's a logical plausible ice-breaker, given what's come before.

Any better ideas? Or, should I just lie low, and is there any specific way in apology that would be good? How to build attraction, or at least salvage it?
It probably wouldn't hurt to tell her you were joking and that you didn't mean to come across rude, and you are sorry if it offended her.

You have to be careful about negging as an opener. I may try it in a crowded club if a girl is real hot yet seems full of herself by her body language but even then I would observe how she looked at me before I spoke. I usually have 2 or 3 different openers in my mind and use one based on her reaction to the fact I am about to speak. Rarely do I open with a neg and wouldn't do it at church.

It's never good to fantasize and wonder what to say for days or weeks or months about one person. Approaching a girl at church seems kind of awkward but I don't go to church. but I'm leaning toward maybe an opener about the sermon would have been better. Or, maybe if someone has on a radical piece of clothing nearby you could ask her opinion on it.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:11 pm 
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Good points, I must admit. In context, it is kind of hard to say "I'm sorry," in any event, and that one interaction was our sole interaction. I just don't know where to go from here, though commenting on the sermon seems a fair idea. Transitioning out of "I'm sorry" is where I'm a bit stumped, and by admitting error I'm at something of a disadvantage.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:48 pm 
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Never apologize.

You can however say something like "you took my comment way too seriously. I just meant that (...)/I was trying to say that (...)"

By putting what you said in context you can make her feel she reacted weirdly/badly to what you said, and that what you said was not really wrong at all.

Big difference with an outright apology, which is DLV at all times.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:23 am 
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Good points, I must admit. In context, it is kind of hard to say "I'm sorry," in any event, and that one interaction was our sole interaction. I just don't know where to go from here, though commenting on the sermon seems a fair idea. Transitioning out of "I'm sorry" is where I'm a bit stumped, and by admitting error I'm at something of a disadvantage.
I don't know what her body language was like right after you said it. She could have been thinking a few different things and how she reacted would be how I would base my next opener. I don't like the sermon line now. That may have been a decent starting opener, but again, I don't go to church and don't know much about church set up.

Just generally speaking on limited knowledge of your situation, I would say the next course of action would be to go up and say "hey I have a question about last time we spoke" Then you have to judge her reaction. Does she want to know your question? If she does, you can form your own. Mine might be something like "do you remember me asking _____ last week?" let her answer. If she is not floating the conversation by then and just says something like Yes, you can say, "I didn't come across as rude did I" Then float the conversation based on what she says.

You may be in pretty good shape with this girl. Make sure and pay close attention to the sermon and ask her a few things about it if the conversation goes anywhere. If she says "I wasn't listening" you can say something like "oh I'm a little bit disappointed in you" .


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:43 pm 
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be serious with her plz

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:46 am 
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Don’t go Sunday, but if your path cross again, apologize to her, and tell her that you didn’t mean what you say to her last Sunday. Tell her that you are joking, and you just want to make friends with her. If she accepts your apology, ask her out. If not, it’s up to you.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:39 am 
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i would apologize to her. i sometimes use this as an opener. If i see a random girl that i find attractive I say i owe her an apology and make up a short story how i bumped into her. when she doesn't remember the story i ask "should i take my apology back then?" then ask her if she thinks it takes a big man to apologise or if her boyfriend has ever apologised to her.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:41 am 
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Dont directly apologize for what you said, but apologize for her interpreting it the way she did. I would say something along the lines of "Hi, i realized you took my comment last week a bit harshly and i apologize if it came off as rude, i only meant to be playful. My names _____" If she ignores you i'd say move on.

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This is why I hate negging. Learn from this and just don't do it.


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