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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:31 am 
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My question is relatively simple. In the opening stage of the conversation with a newly met girl, how should you react to her calling your bluff? Lets say you open with a compliment and the she says sth like "i get that all the time. That does not work at all". Or when you talk about your job you come up with indirect, crazy answer like fixinglighters, she says sth like "thatis really lame, does any girl fall for that?".

basically how to recover if our conversation is not well received? Thanks.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:36 am 
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first don't open with a complement. Unless its something that is related to what she is wearing or doing. Either call her out on her shit. Tell her the proper response is "Thank you" Then ask if she was raised rude or picked it up in the streets. Then if she doesn't break. Save face and walk away. Don't apologies or waste your time or energy on her. I had this issue this weekend. My boy was talking to this girl. She knocked her purse on the gound. I tryed to save it. Then when it was on the ground i picked it up but all her crap fell out. She looked at me like I knocked it on the ground. I apologies and told her sorry and help her pick up all her crap. She then stared me down and I was like what>? your purse fell. She gave me this dead stare. I should of said fuck off your whack. But instead back tracked and was like sorry I was just trying to help.

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I agree with Chinopants on a lot of his rules. Do not open with a compliment, if anything make it a neg and be like "oh those shoes look nice, they must be a big fad or something because I just saw like 3 girls with the same ones on tonight."

Never apologize, if she can't take the joke, or the kindness, then fuck her. Why should you even keep bothering with a bitch even if she is hot?

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I should of said fuck off your whack. But instead back tracked and was like sorry I was just trying to help.
Lmfao. I'd have just thrown her purse back on the ground.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:43 am 
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this is not a problem unless you are looking for a reaction, if you approach with a GENUINE compliment, it isn't to get something to ''work'' it's the truth and you are just telling her why you are approaching to set the frame of the interaction, you don't just compliment her and then say nothing and expect her to react, the compliment isn't important, you and her are, you just transition into speaking with her after the opener

what to do
you: hey, I know this is sort of random but I just came over here cause you are really cute, figured if I didn't come try to meet you now, we would probably never meet, are you from Xcity?.... blah blah blah talk

what not to do
you: hey, I know this is sort of random but I just came over here cause you are really cute............
her: blah blah blah

don't expect anything from her without direction, lead her in conversation and don't look for her approval, if she tells you she gets that all the time, just control the frame and continue screening her, if she is overly rude for no reason you don't have to put up with that... you've known her for what 2 seconds? just walk 2 feet away from her and say the exact same thing to the next girl that isn't socially awkward, if it's nothing but her just being a bit shy or skeptical, then who cares just continue the conversation

you: blah blah blah
her: oh I get that all the time that won't work on me
you: nice, you poor girl, sounds like you're fighting guys off with a club, do you live in Xcity?... blah blah blah


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:31 am 
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My question is relatively simple. In the opening stage of the conversation with a newly met girl, how should you react to her calling your bluff? Lets say you open with a compliment and the she says sth like "i get that all the time. That does not work at all". Or when you talk about your job you come up with indirect, crazy answer like fixinglighters, she says sth like "thatis really lame, does any girl fall for that?".

basically how to recover if our conversation is not well received? Thanks.
Call her out on it, playfully, yet confidently e.g say "wow, you must feel so special" or "really...that's nice" (sarcastic expression), or "I get it all the time as well" (grinning). You basically have to NOT let women's "shit tests" affect you. It is their subconscious way of finding out if you're REALLY confident or just faking it. I honestly just IGNORE them (usually with a cocky grin) and continue to LEAD the conversation. If she says something like "answer my question", because you ignored her, tell her "don't tell ME WHAT to do" (cocky , yet slightly angry expression). Just don't buy into their control frame; when they test you like this they are attempting to TAKE CONTROL. Hot women are used to being in control, because most guys are just clueless and do not how to take it back. You should be the one who is ALWAYS in control, not them.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:38 am 
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first don't open with a complement. Unless its something that is related to what she is wearing or doing. Either call her out on her shit. Tell her the proper response is "Thank you" Then ask if she was raised rude or picked it up in the streets. Then if she doesn't break. Save face and walk away. Don't apologies or waste your time or energy on her. I had this issue this weekend. My boy was talking to this girl. She knocked her purse on the gound. I tryed to save it. Then when it was on the ground i picked it up but all her crap fell out. She looked at me like I knocked it on the ground. I apologies and told her sorry and help her pick up all her crap. She then stared me down and I was like what>? your purse fell. She gave me this dead stare. I should of said fuck off your whack. But instead back tracked and was like sorry I was just trying to help.
The correct response is "thank you". LMAO! That is sheer badass...I'll have to use that one.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:31 pm 
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So playful rudeness is the key... Thanks a lot for all replies :)


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:38 am 
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What if the opener isn't a compliment, but is neutral? Like, I dunno... would you rather be a deep sea explorer like Jacques Cousteau or run away to joint he circus and become a human cannonball? I haven't tried that yet btw. I saw it in an interview. I have no idea how it will go over; probably not to well. But the idea is the same; what if she rejects the opener? I'm thinking, for a case of A or B, toss out a C; "Oh, you'd try out on the food network and be the next Paula Dean. Alright, cool." Any opinions?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:48 am 
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When do you see hot girls alone? If you open the group the right way, you should neg her with your body language at the same time as you do verbally. Otherwise you shouldn't be giving her compliments until you're qualifying her. Opening with a compliment will not get you quality girls. That will get you hogs and sluts.


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