This opener is so powerful that it trumps every opener in existence!
'Whats the time?', 'Where the toilet?' and even the infamous 'I need a wee', all whimper in face of this unholy storm.

I call it the very nice opener.....

Run up to a girl, stop her and say 'You look very nice'. It is honestly like magic, the girl will melt into your arms, pretty much rejection proof.

Have fun with it and feel free to add your own best openers.

You are trolling but I'll reply anyway haha

Compliments can work if you demonstrate value. In fact I might start doing this, because sometimes I feel guilty after a neg. *shakes and clears head

ANYWAY

Maybe uh..

"wow that dress looks amazzzzing on you"

"wow thanks!"

"but watch out for the guys in here, they might start stumbling over words in the sight of your rare beauty"

that sucks but watch, it sets a precedent for the rest of the night

Every 30 minutes or so... in her ear.. so any guys come around you stumbling their words yet?

hahaha walk away, do that all night

All of a sudden I'm her confidant. And if I happen to have a big chest, I might as well be a protector too.

Shoot, why not more.

Replace the punchline with something a bit better

The point is, and now the cliché, that openers mean shit. I actually use that opener all the time, it’s my default. I use it because it is so lame.

I ask you how many times have you tested your technique, what results have you got from it, and what is the purpose of going up to the girl every 30 minutes, if you could be standing there with her actually seducing her?

I don't wanna sound rude but it is NOT the best opener ever. It isn't even very good, because - as said above- you are complimenting her from the start.

You say an opener isn't important, because it is immediately followed up. This is untrue, because during the follow-up of the opener she will have an opinion of you BASED ON YOUR OPENER. We all do it, we are only human.

You can open in three ways:
-complimenting her
-negging her
-neutral

Of course all the above should be delivered with confidence, and it is possible to score with any of the three categories.

However, I mostly go for the neutral opener, because it is the most risk-free. In the first sentences (the opener) you can immediately gather information about how she acts/talks/... and use this for deciding your following material.

If you open with a compliment - like your "very nice" opener - you are conveying interest in her without her having to work for it. Following cat string theory you are already screwed by the end of the opener.

Opening with a neg is better than opening with a compliment, but the delivery is crucial because she could think you are nothing but a jerk. Rightfully so: you did just insult someone you never met. The neg must therefore be a perfect neg, meaning it is not insulting, but it does make her self-conscious and insecure, wanting to prove herself to you.

Final remark: try the neutral and the neg openers, and you'll see that it'll work even better than your opener. If you do, please post your experiences here!

Cheers

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I have tried 'negs' and 'neutral' openers. Your post stinks of mental masturbation.

Yes some openers work better than others. Give a newbie a good opinion opener and he will be able to open using it, because the opener is interesting to the girls, note that the girls are not actually interested in him.

Someone with experience will be able to open with anything beacuse it is their character, vibe, whatever you call, will be strong and that is what opens the set, gets them interested, attracted and wet haha.

We all know words mean almost nothing, and by focusing on the logic of verbals you are going backwards, pushing yourself into logic mode, which cannot explain the dynamics of intereactions (otherwise it would be called pick up science). Once you realise that the actually words you say do not matter, it is so liberating. Anyone telling you that words matter in pick up is frankly lying, it is how they are said, what they convey etc. what matters.

There are minor exceptions to this, and for some pratical reasons some words may be better than others.

(Anyway i should never have posted this here, i don't feel like it added too much value)

Also why would you be apposed to complementing a girl, you have to show you are interested to fuck them, how do you indirectly fuck a girl?

That's a good point Zero.

When our pickup opener is interesting, they are actually interested in what we said at first, not necessarily us.

I think it is the balls to approach, and the fact that we have material that can entertain them, sets us apart from all the other guys though.

I was never one to like entertaining though.

If a woman looks sexy/hot/pretty then I want to tell her. Women want to be noticed and look good for men, and if you think she looks nice then express it. I don't really want to say she just looks 'nice', but it is in the right direction.

As for negging, well my last successes I have not felt the need, no more than I've felt the need to make her laugh. I don't mind giving her something which makes her feel good and that's what a compliment does. One of you guys even mentioned 'risk free'!? No offence, but if that is what you want to do, then you are frankly being a coward. I hate to sound like a prick, but that is bluntly what it boils down to.

Rejection is a good thing because it means that girl is not right for you, and who wants to spend their time with someone they are not supposed to be with, even for just one night.

If your inner game is strong, you shouldn't care one bit about rejection so any talk of "risk" is irrelevant.

This one has never failed for me. Walk up to her, briefly say "excuse me" to whoever she is talking to and then turn to her like the other person is completely irrelevant, grab her hand, and say "hi, I'm ________ I wanted to come introduce myself. What's your name?"

It's the ultimate ballsy move. Women love balls, which is why what you say doesn't matter but how you say it. I've found being incredibly confident and honest is much more important than what you say because it is the ultimate DHV. Girls have acute senses of how confident you are, since they deal with guys hitting on them all the time. She'll subconsciously wonder "what makes this guy so confident that he feels like he can do this? he must be high value to act this way" and you dont look like a jerk or the 1000 AFCs hitting on her that night. you just look like a guy who knows what he wants and goes for it which is a huge turn on.

I like to point out this thread was a joke hahahahahahah im sooooo funny.

And that 'rejection proof' was also a joke, as almost anyone knows rejection is part of the gme, deal with it, use it to pump yourself.

Did you just open with a neg?
--JOKE ACCOMPLISHED--
This made me giggle like a little girl.

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Here are some good openers.
The neg opener, for a bar: "So where are all the hot girls tonight? I thought this was where they hung out". If it hooks it will make the girls try to qualify themselves.
For the street: "Excuse me, I really like your style", while pointing to her clothes, continue with: "It looks really original and smart, you don't see many people dressed like that". This has now become a daygame classic.
The pure natural opener. "Excuse me, I don't know how you are going to react to this and I am absolutely terrified, but I just had to come over and say hello to you because I think you look so nice". That opener depends on whether she is the sympathetic type of not. If she is sympathetic towards shy guys then it should hook.

Opener really doesnt matter. I once made a street survey and asked tons of girls questions about flirting. On the question if they remember what the first thing was they're boyfriend or ex said, most of them had no clue.

Hell I got a lay with just standing beside the chick and tell her "hey, I'm good in stealing cell-phones.." Thats it. Anything can work, depending on a lot of other factors...

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@goldsword, why do you excuse yourself? DLV

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Someone with experience wouldn't be reading this forum.