You know the type - social butterfly, all over the place, high energy, surrounded by people. Sometimes my mind goes blank on how to open.

Or even if you open, she's too hyper and wants to go back to her friends/dance etc. Ideas?

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Introduce yourself to everyone and introduce people to each other. Once she notices you, go escalate. Buy her a drink, ask her to dance. Then tell her to go get a bite to eat. Ask for her phone number.

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Catch her eye and give her a nod as if to say "hey you're an HB10, I'm an HG10 I'm acknowledging you as an equal" then turn away.

Ask her if she was the hired entertainment from the bar or if she always moves that much (neg) say something like, you will be an awful date to take to a nice place - you move to much.

Neg her, than leave her, re-open later - most of all enjoy yourself - make YOU be the highlight of the party, not her, she'll want YOUR attention then after.

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I once met a girl who fits the description. At first, I met her sober at the gym, and she seemed to be a normal, cute girl. Nothing special. Then I met her in a pub, she was drunk, hyper and running around all over the place, moving from one guy to another, and she enjoyed the attention. She had no focus, couldn't stand still and have a conversation. So I decided to ignore her for the rest of the night. And that's the end of the story.

This is not a good example, perhaps. But I think the abundance mentality is the best. Talk to other girls, and other people in general. Ignore her as long as you don't have her attention. Perhaps you can find someone better in the crowd... If not, you are at least doing your best "sending the right vibes" (DHV).

Introduce yourself to the group but pay her very little attention. When you do hit her with some banter. You guys call it a neg, but I call it playful witt. Then pay little attention again. She should qualify herself to you. This is what usually happens when I introduce myself to a group and ignore the target.

If you are struggling to find a way to introduce then just use the "Wow, you guys look like you're having so much fun, I'm xxx".

Point at her with your arm extended and do not move... Eyes will start gravitating towards you and at some point she will follow and see you pointing at her, then just make a gesture to come, once she comes introduce yourself.

This one is clever, makes you stand out with confidence and its kind of AMOGish (never really a bad thing). Though, she is "the hottest girl in the bar." With that said, she's cocky in herself so you may spark up the conversation, but do throw a lot of cocky/funny & negs at her right from the start.

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I'd have to demonstrate that I have more value than anyone else, and/ or more energy, as always.

She is active with the entire place, so I have to look at is as if it's a group.

1 on 1 interaction with her would have to equal the fun she was having bouncing around.

I think it'd be easier to just up your value and be seen as the center of attention, so that any second with you no matter how boring is fantastic.

Then you could just do your normal stuff.

In short

A) Yell funny shit to everyone in the bar and wait until people start approaching you with jokes
B) make eye contact
C) stumble into her, and say "oh my gosh i didnt break you did i?" or something about her being fragile maybe? idk i think im on to something here but didnt think how to word it yet

gl

just be natural if she like you she will go out with you

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James, I have a lot of experience with a situation like this.

I don't like the responses I read. Some of what I read may be effective some times but there are higher percentages of ways to deal with the issue.

One thing to consider is that the chance you fuck a girl with this type of personality and popularity is almost 0. If your goal is to get someone like this as a girlfriend, the chance is almost 0. One reason is b/c some of them are never ready to settle down. If you want sex, chances are she thinks she can find a guy to have sex with better than you.

I wouldn't put much thought or effort in to a girl like that. As far as an opener, try to go with something situational but initially don't let her know you think shes hot and don't be direct. when I talk to those type of women, the goal is to make friends with them. If you can get in their social circle, and you can get her to think you are cool, it's going to help you in the long run. she's used to guys coming on strong and making it obvious they like her, making her think most men want to fuck her and she probably doesn't like it. so when you don't do that, and you can have a small conversation like you would any other person, it's how you want to do it.

In order to get the "social butterfly" as you called it, you have to run flash game. That is purely a skill of social dynamics and understanding people. That involves backwards and forwards merging. You walking up to her and opening her directly is already demonstrating that you are lower value. What I personally try and do in that situation is find a 2 set of girls, work some attraction material on them, put them on my arms and say "lets go make some friends" or run some type of whirl wind routine on them that I can get them walking around the bar with them on my arms and open the set with the girl I want. Then pawn the 2 girls I picked up on whatever guys may be in her group and I take the queen. Like I said, that is pure social dynamics and understanding the art of conversation to get that girl. There is no special opener that you can use that will blow every other guy out. Honestly, with that set... Use the opener you know the best so it sounds the most natural. Practice your new shit on the ones you don't want and let them blow you out. Don't try the new stuff on the ones that matter. Stick to your game plan and work the fuck out of it.

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