To all of you who are aware, I was a virgin throughout my teens, lost my virginity at the age of 19. Never had much stability in my childhood (family always moving), went to a high school where we hardly had any diversity and was not into any of the girls (it was a small high school, under 300 kids), and struck out often with girls when I first started approaching (remember my first oneitis labeling me the creep because I came on too strong).

Here I am at the age of 20 almost about to turn 21.

It may have to do with the media pushing men to lose their virginity in high school and making it seem weird for men to be virgins at a late age or maybe it has to do with me feeling like I have to make up for lost time.

I feel that I have a MAJOR chip on my shoulder now as a result of it. Like I am never satisfied. I do approaches after approaches until I can go no more. I want to avoid real relationships at all costs and I feel that when I do get laid, it just isn't enough and that I have to keep on going. I have been with over 10 girls now (losing count to be honest) and want to keep on going.

I have dark moments in my lone time when I think about all the years I spent as a teen locked up without a girlfriend or any interactions from women. The years I was a joke and all the women saw me as just a friend if even that. I use those as a fuel and I keep on going.

Almost all of the girls I have been with have been American and now I want to expand and get with different nationalities of women. Yet I have oddly enough still retained some of my insecurities.

What is sad is that a part of me wants that beauty of a long term relationship that has emotions and feelings in it but my ego and past memories keep telling me to pump and dump even when I want a real relationship.

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I just come on here these days to give advice and read interesting threads. Gone are the days when I came to seek advice and validation.

I think your main problem is your WHY.

Everyone does this for a reason. As for my self, I want to become the best possible version of me, and PU is helping me greatly along the way.

Trust me, I know how you're feeling. And I've been the definition of beta for the better part of my life, but I don't use those memories as fuel. When I think of those memories, I no longer get angry, but I pretty much just shrug/laugh it of. The real fuel for my fire, is looking back at where I was. Seeing how much has changed over the last few years. And imagining who and how I'll be in another couple of years if I continue to improve at the same rate.

What you are trying to do is fuck as many girls as possible to fill an emotional gap. My guess is that you'll never be satisfied until you actually face your problem. You look back at your worst, you feel helpless, powerless and alone. The immediate solution is to go out and find someone to fuck, so you can prove to yourself that you're not that same person anymore.

I think the best thing for you to do is to stop looking backwards at how you WERE, and start looking forward towards who you're going to BE.

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Alea iacta est - The die has been cast

I am who I wanna be right now though.

It is like I want to be the guy who is in a successful relationships but my ego is just not allowing it.

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I just come on here these days to give advice and read interesting threads. Gone are the days when I came to seek advice and validation.

If you truly are who you want to be, then why are you not completley satisfied?

I don't remember his name, but a guy came up with a good philosophy of what free will is.


Imagine a stone rolling downhill. The reason that the stone is rolling, is because of gravity, the angle of the hill and the stones shape. But still, if the stone had had a consciousness, it would want with every fiber of it's beeing to reach that bottom point. It would feel like it was it's main drive and everything it wanted. However, free will is not knowing what you think you want. It's being able to stop for a second, and actually make a cold cynical decision: What is best for me? What do I need?

And I do understand how you feel. And I'm pretty sure I know what's holding you back. Using your past as a fuel, not only retains the motivation from remembering who you were, but it also holds on to the bad memories of who you were, which in turn leads to those sudden sparks of insecurity.

The best tip I can give is: Don't forget your past, but don't stay emotionally attached to it.

Also, and you probably realized this allready, but you've created a protective bubble around you so you won't get hurt. That same bubble is what keeps you from having deep emotions (because eventually you might get hurt). It's a normal problem, and there's probably a lot of guides on how to get rid of it.

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Alea iacta est - The die has been cast

Could have written that myself. Being virginized instead of socialized in your teens seems to irreparably fuck you up.
The only way we can both get through this issue is by pure, unadulterated acceptance of the past and move on.
Easier said than done, all those high school beeches need payback.

I just have to point out how lame this topic is.

Honestly, this coming from the guy who asked a billion questions about race and blondes? Really bro? You associated your failures with certain women to your race. How can I take this topic seriously?

As for this whole being a virgin as a teenager, this is just dumb. People actually have sex a lot less than we think. A lot of men are virgins until their late 20s. You consider losing your virginity at 16 or 17 as "late" is just ridiculous and looks more like an attempt at bragging than modesty. There is so much social pressure to have sex that is just plain irrelevant to enjoying sex itself. Sex has become a mosh pit of everything from ego, to social status, and or even elitism. And seriously, if we as a society wish to become healthy again, then we have to disassociate all this bullshit and nonsense from sex and just have sex.

This is all just garbage and nonsense, and someone has to point out garbage when they see it. I am 23 years old and have never had sex. I am unashamed of this fact, and it has not seriously effected my health. What had in the past effected my health however, was worrying too much about sex. This will drive anyone nuts. Trying to measure yourself to some invisible social standard is grade A material for becoming insane.

There is no scientific evidence which suggests that not having sex until your mid-20s or early 30s has any profound effects. What is much more destructive is over concern with sex, or attempting to suppress desires of love and affection because one feels dejected. These are much more destructive situations than merely not having sex.

Seriously bro, just stop with the dumb posts.

This man speaks the truth.

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Time to focus on career, travel and relationships.

The way I see it... is if you were on a plane that was about to crash and die ... would you think more about the mistakes you made in the past or the mistakes that you are currently making and can now do nothing about. I could only be at peace if I was living the way I wanted to now no matter how upsetting the past.

I have a real question for you. Have you found a girl that you would actually want a long term relationship with? I feel as though PUA isn't keeping you from settling down, its just keeping you from settling.

What i mean is that you have become this better man and realize that you have the potential to be great and you are on your way to achieving it and that this gives you internal validation. You also increase your personal view of the value you hold yourself at, which simply means you aren't going to settle for some chick that you would have easily settled for in your teen years.

If this doesn't seem to fit your personal view of how your relationships are, then perhaps you should reevaluate the type of women you attract. Superficial women will fuck based more on the appearance of a man as opposed to his actual personality, and if you are any where near as good looking as cristiano (which your avatar suggests) then this will definitely come up. This means there is no deeper connection (which, coincidentally, you need in a relationship), and means that you two will get tired of one another within a month and fall off.

For a relationship, you need to connect and bond with the girl. Just make sure you have the right one.

Hope this helped man, good luck.

Also, in regards to the dude that doesn't know how to get laid and is pretending like it isn't a big deal... As human beings, our most natural purpose is to have sex. it is our greatest motivator in life whether you want to believe it or not. While religion tries to interpret the meaning of life beyond the natural, science gives an undeniable definition of what our animal nature intends for us to do. Reproduce. Yes we are more sophisticated than all the other animals, but guess what... were still animals.

Posts about blondes and race are honestly stupid. There isn't any denying that and you should probably stop with that.

However, any dude that gets laid on a consistent basis realizes that 10 girls in one year is not a particularly big deal, and that you aren't actually bragging. What you're saying isn't garbage, and should certainly be addressed. We all strive for happiness so don't worry about some dude getting bent over your superficial success that he can't even understand.

I do not see the stupidity of my posts about Blondes. Thing is I simply stated that I struggle more with them than other women and wanted to know what it was with the deviation?

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I just come on here these days to give advice and read interesting threads. Gone are the days when I came to seek advice and validation.

whatever dude. try to focus on what i said that was actually meant for your benefit, not something that was used in a mini dispute between two people you shouldn't even care about.

This will be my first and last post in regards to this subject. I'll try to keep it of modest length.

1.) Nothing in my post said that sex was "bad". So that was a misinterpretation on your part.

2.) Nothing in my post said that sex was "unnecessary". So that was another misinterpretation on your part.

3.) Nothing in my post said that having sex with lot's of women was "bad".

4.) Nothing in my post said that sex was "unnatural". That was an assumption on your part.

You see where I'm going with this? A lot of misinterpretations and assumptions on your part. I didn't say sex was, "the big bad terrible work of the devil". That was some bullshit you decided to spit out. I personally hold no grudges against people who manage to have sex. I could care less if a man has sex 1 time or 1,000 times. He is another man, and he is not me. I am me, and I am happy with who I am. I feel no pressure to have sex, because I've lived a life where I wasted time worrying about it, and to be honest, I've been a lot happier ever since I let the issue go. In fact, I'm closer to sex now then when I actually gave a damn.

Regarding your comment of science, yeah, but your missing the vast majority of it. The vast majority of animals fuck perhaps 2-3 times in their lives bro. This is not just a phenomenon that happens in the human species. It happens with most species. Most members of most species only mate a few times in their lives. Only a select few get to fuck constantly. Other species allow for males to forcefully fuck women aka rape. While other species everyone fucks each other indiscriminately barring mother son sex, good example Bonobos. Elephant males are known to sometimes not have sex with females until they reach their late 30s bro. So all this bs about having sex early is bs. There is no evidence that waiting for sex can be harmful for you. I don't care how many times you say it, it doesn't make it true.

Because it has become unethical to force women to have sex we try our best, overcome our fears, and wait. Sex happens when it happens bro. For some of us it happens early, for others it happens later. Why does it matter as long as it happens? We seriously need to stop with all the artificial social pressure on the subject.

As for getting "bent" about his "Superificial" (another word for "FAKE") success, no not really. I'm just pointing out bullshit when I sees it. Wouldn't take a word of the OP seriously.

In regards to your post, I can tell that sex is a source of pride for you, aka ego. I'm betting the dude that wrote the post I'm responding to had sex no more than three or four times. Yet he's writing about sex like he's some casa nova. Dudes really make me laugh some times seriously. Case and point:

"A guy that has sex with women on a regular basis would understand." (Implying that he has sex on a regular basis).

Yeah whatever bro.

I spent a few minutes debating on whether this was worth getting into, but i think some members on here can learn from this so...

As for your numbers 1-4 i reread my post regarding you and did not once see the term "bad" used in it. Your quotations are, in general, fucking ridiculous. "The big bad work of the devil"? I'm assuming thats not serious since my entire post was spent being an advocate of having sex. One thing to also note is that superficial, in that context, means surface level. As in, his success is only in having sex with women he hasn't bonded with, making it not deep, and therefore, superficial. He has not yet achieved deep intimacy.

As for science, I think you missed my point...

As for the whole post i made regarding you, i was trying to defend the OP, because i have been in a similar spot, and i wouldn't want people who can't possibly understand my position to try and tell me what to do, or tell me i should just stop asking for help. It is a lonely feeling when no one is there to help, and if he comes to a site to help with this area of life, the last thing he should have to hear is your negative bullshit.

To those reading this other than dicklow: any dude on this sight who pretends like he doesn't care whether he has sex or not is either not being real with the people he writes to, or he's not being real with himself. This site is almost entirely based on how to pick up women so that you can have sex with them. He wouldn't be here if it didn't matter to him.

Also to readers, realize this guy is a virgin and cannot possibly give an opinion worth anything to men who have had sex when it actually comes to sex. To dicklow, I'm really not trying to bash you dude, but this is simply an area you don't understand yet. Just because a guy can read a book on game doesn't mean he can automatically go pick up girls. No, he has to put himself out there, fuck up a few times, get some experiences in him before he can get even an idea of the game.

I'm not giving you shit for being a virgin so don't interpret this that way. You have not had sex, therefore, you do not have an idea as to what a sexual relationship entails and how it can affect someone.

Good luck on your own adventure.

Lawls, I made none of the statements you accussed me of making but ok bro. I seriously can't fight with hard headed guys. I made the post to doubt the validity of a man who asked dumb questions and expects us all to believe that he's mr. casa nova. I for one am not stupid enough to believe that the OP even slept with 2 women.

As for the rest, again I could care less. My position is not invalid. I wasn't trying to give anyone advice. To keep it short and simple both you and paramount21 are liars and I want to point it out before anyone takes this shit post seriously. Liars are never trustworthy sources of knowledge and information.

As for your attempt to convince the audience that I was trying to give someone advice on sex, it was nothing of the sort. It was more of a heads up to guys on the site who hadn't had sex yet. If you have had sex, then of course the advice wouldn't mean jack squat to you. There is no pressure to have sex. All the pressure to have sex is in one's head. It doesn't exist in the real world. Seriously, all that "your lame because you can't have sex," stuff your spewing out is just childish and in the grand scheme of life, insignificant. I don't "pretend" that I don't like sex. I think sex and women are awesome, but they are far from the most important things in life. Just a small piece of what it means to be human. Unlike animals humans have the capability to be reasonable and rational creatures who can measure the quality of their existence by the accomplishments they have made.

No where did I ever say that sex was unnecessary, simply that the artificial pressure from society to have sex is unnecessary. So another lie on your part. You have a habit of misinterpreting the truth, especially if you feel that your false paradigm is being threatened. It is possible to be a human, and a man of good virtue and not have sex. Of course I am curious about sex and want it. To say otherwise would be a lie. However, sex is far from the cornerstone of my existence. I have learned that a life full of meaning and purpose is better than a life of little meaning and purposeless sex. Hence why even in the most remote chance that this fake post is true, you both seem to be at the point of your lives where you crave something more than sex. It's ironic because your very posts prove that what I say about life and sex are true and you don't realize it. There is more to life than sex, and if it were not, then why would you be seeking a "deeper emotional connection," with women instead of a purely sexual one?

This attempt of yours to find a deeper emotional connection aka "love" proves to me that you too know that sex is not the most important thing. Disproving your crappy earlier attempt to say that humans are merely sexual creatures. Being sexual is only part of what it means to be human.