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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:25 pm 
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There was this girl that has promised to have sex with me a couple of weeks back, but for one reason or another we haven't been able to see each other. Anyway i walked past her yesterday while i was on my phone and ignored her, it was an important conversation !
I tried calling her a day later to ask her around and apologies about ignoring her but she didn't answer and hasn't contacted me back. I think she may be pissed off, so would this be a time to apologies, or would this be coming across as AFC.

I am removing my nice guyness, because i used to be too considerate before however i am actually thinking i have gone too far. I suppose some inner referencing is needed, this is a good example of trying to get the balance right.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:48 pm 
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NEVER apologize!

Text something random and silly/funny, then blow it off as nothing if she asks

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:26 pm 
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Never is a harsh word. Yes, it's effective to never apologise, it just goes against my personal things. If I did something bad, then I take the responsibility, and if I can't do anything else about it, I will apologise.

But... there is no reason to say sorry for a stupid little thing like this. It's just needy.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:32 pm 
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Dare I ask how a conversation arose, during which she "promised to have sex with you?"

When you use those words, it makes me think that you somehow pressured into saying it or asked her to promise that if you spent time/money on her, eventually she'd "hold up her end" of the hooker bargain by "letting you" have sex with her.

But before I can ask what you were doing trying to make a woman promise her sexuality to you, I'm curious how that idea even got planted in the first place.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:44 am 
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Oh god no, i am still new to the PUA community but not a moron !!
I know that sex is something that comes from emotion not obligation. We pretty much were doing it at this party, and she was saying this, i just used to this highlight her buying temperature was high. I would like to strike when the iron is hot, but it has been a bit difficult as I've been out of the city and she was too.

But regardless, i am taking on the advice to do with apologising, i think in some cases when there is a genuine need for it, or if you have crossed the line, then it would be okay to apologise, but in the initial stages of attraction it is a deadly thing to do.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:14 am 
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Apologize for what? You were having an important conversation on the phone, she was a lower priority.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:14 pm 
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She won't have sex with you anymore because she found out that your scared of your own shadow around women.

I would continue ignoring her. I would let that one go completely and move on to new opportunities. If you can detach from her 'obligation' to have sex with you, then maybe in the future she'll come back around when you're more confident. And listen man, where you're at with this is just fine. Everyone starts somewhere.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:39 pm 
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She won't have sex with you anymore because she found out that your scared of your own shadow around women.

I would continue ignoring her. I would let that one go completely and move on to new opportunities. If you can detach from her 'obligation' to have sex with you, then maybe in the future she'll come back around when you're more confident. And listen man, where you're at with this is just fine. Everyone starts somewhere.
When did she find out that ??

yeah there are always new opportunities around, it comes down to a numbers game i suppose. I need more of an attitude of abundance.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:54 pm 
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I would ignore her for atleast a few days... maybe text her out of the blue saying "hey i swear I saw your evil twin walking around the other day! i realized it wasn't you when you didn't even say hi!"

Turn the blame on her... You might have shot yourself in the foot here bro but can't hurt to take another stab at it I suppose.

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