What the hell has happened to the PUA scene?!



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:28 am 
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Hey Guys,

I am new, sort of not new. Seen the scene develop over the last 5-6 years.

Just come back into game but on all the other forums i have been on so far (can't speak for PUAF) they are just filled with Beta, needless (and needy) questions.

What happened to PickUp over the last 2-3years? Where did all the real PUAs go? There used to be innovation and a real thought process on the forums that would actually help guys and break real belief barriers for the whole community (Like when someone got a 30 sec KC back in the day... that was a BIG DEAL).

But anyway it seems like the game is full of lurkers and mainstream people dipping their toe in PU with hardcore oneitis.

Give your thought and opinions on how game as developed these last few years and where you see the futur heading.

Satori Out.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:14 am 
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go to real social dynamics nation forum


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:44 pm 
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There are a fair few really solid guys around just diluted. Also I'd stay away from 'general questions' and go to the pua lounge or experienced ppl's field report blogs.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:30 pm 
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Haha! It has always been like that. I know that back in the day lay reports made a pua famous. Now lay reports is like an 'introduction post' and nobody cares.

Also 'The Game' came out 2005, 'Vh1' came out 2007 and died 2008. I think 2009 is when most guys left the scene. There is nobody keeping them motivated except for Tyler Durden from RSD. His not on television but he is on Youtube.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:15 am 
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Shit you are so right i never even thought about that.

Pickup went main stream. The serious guys cashed the there chips and fucked off. The AFCs and KJs flocked on-masse and that diluted (more like POlluted) the entire forum dynamic.

How do you guys cope with all the noise and bs on forums these days or do you just stick to certain areas that you know will have high-quality posts?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:49 am 
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I also would like to an opinion from the remaining scene out there i.e. Do you feel that the scene has become over saturated do to the mass media exposure on television and through publications? What I am asking is do you think that since it has been exposed in many cities women have caught on to the old-techniques and they are beginning to become obsolete and the scene has now been flooded with unknowing new PUAs? Do you think what we need now is a new Guru unlike any from the past to emerge with new methodologies and tactics of the Game? Should preeminent Gurus modify there current Game and emerge from the ashes anew like a phoenix with new and unused Game to revitalize respect in the community?

And are woman finally catching on? If women are aware of what PUA's are doing then it spoils The Game and there lessens the chances of the pick-up. Do the same old tricks still work these days? I know of women that own copies of The Game and other PUA videos and publications. Some of them use it as PUAs in the field and some use it to be ahead of the PUAs so that they could spoil their game. Many woman that know the Game are using what are called "Spoilers" (one line counter lines to literally close off one's game) i.e. they make a remark (sometimes rude and offensive) to crush a man's opener or approach. These "Spoilers" can also be a remark that points out the pick-up line e.g. She says something of the nature in response "You need to quit using those same old pick up lines" or "Heh! What...was that from a book (giggle, giggle, laugh and walk away)?" What I am trying to say is that "B!#%h Defense" has elevated to higher degree but there are some women that are still oblivious to the PUA methodologies. There are now PUA Haters or APUA (Anti pick-up artists) that know of the PUA scene and intentionally prep themselves up a little bit to combat the PUAs i.e. they read the Seduction books, PUA books and have seen the VH1 stuff. However, there is also the growing community of female PUAs with their own vernacular (lingo) and utilize PUA skills to pick-up men and women.

Do you think what really needs to happen is to let the scene continue to die out and go back into the underground? This would probably allow for the scene to be more applicable to reflect the contemporary scene that is vastly different from the scene 5 to ten years ago when it was still out of the mainstream media spotlight.

How does everyone feel about all of this?

I just want assurance that the science of pick-up still is applicable today as it was in the past.


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I also would like to an opinion from the remaining scene out there i.e. Do you feel that the scene has become over saturated do to the mass media exposure on television and through publications? What I am asking is do you think that since it has been exposed in many cities women have caught on to the old-techniques and they are beginning to become obsolete and the scene has now been flooded with unknowing new PUAs? Do you think what we need now is a new Guru unlike any from the past to emerge with new methodologies and tactics of the Game? Should preeminent Gurus modify there current Game and emerge from the ashes anew like a phoenix with new and unused Game to revitalize respect in the community?

And are woman finally catching on? If women are aware of what PUA's are doing then it spoils The Game and there lessens the chances of the pick-up. Do the same old tricks still work these days? I know of women that own copies of The Game and other PUA videos and publications. Some of them use it as PUAs in the field and some use it to be ahead of the PUAs so that they could spoil their game. Many woman that know the Game are using what are called "Spoilers" (one line counter lines to literally close off one's game) i.e. they make a remark (sometimes rude and offensive) to crush a man's opener or approach. These "Spoilers" can also be a remark that points out the pick-up line e.g. She says something of the nature in response "You need to quit using those same old pick up lines" or "Heh! What...was that from a book (giggle, giggle, laugh and walk away)?" What I am trying to say is that "B!#%h Defense" has elevated to higher degree but there are some women that are still oblivious to the PUA methodologies. There are now PUA Haters or APUA (Anti pick-up artists) that know of the PUA scene and intentionally prep themselves up a little bit to combat the PUAs i.e. they read the Seduction books, PUA books and have seen the VH1 stuff. However, there is also the growing community of female PUAs with their own vernacular (lingo) and utilize PUA skills to pick-up men and women.

Do you think what really needs to happen is to let the scene continue to die out and go back into the underground? This would probably allow for the scene to be more applicable to reflect the contemporary scene that is vastly different from the scene 5 to ten years ago when it was still out of the mainstream media spotlight.

How does everyone feel about all of this?

I just want assurance that the science of pick-up still is applicable today as it was in the past.
It's better this way. That way you'll have to step up your game and be more creative. It's boring to use the same shit again and again anyways. Specially, shit that everyone else uses. This forces you to be more authentic and congruent in who you are. It also brings out the best out of you. Girls are suppose to challenge men to persists, to bring out the best out of men. If you consider it, this isn't really new. Girls has been challenging men since the cave man ages ...

But, there are the fundamentals in all style of game the works on girls no matter. These fundamentals are what makes a superior men. For example if you approach and experience 1000 different type of girls ... of course you will develop the skills to be good in game.

ku ku ku ... You guys better step up your game before it's to late ^_^!


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:08 am 
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Do you think what really needs to happen is to let the scene continue to die out and go back into the underground? This would probably allow for the scene to be more applicable to reflect the contemporary scene that is vastly different from the scene 5 to ten years ago when it was still out of the mainstream media spotlight.

How does everyone feel about all of this?

I just want assurance that the science of pick-up still is applicable today as it was in the past.
The fact you call them 'tricks' and a multitude of all indicators in your writing suggests are you are either a troll or an extreme KJ.

Someone who has been involved with game would never talk like this. If you want reassurance that the 'science' still works, go out and try it for yourself.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:11 pm 
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No, I am not really a KJ or a troll get out as much as I can. I just need a little more field practice and am on here for bits of advice and open opinion, after all you asked the question and I made some input and asked for an answer and got what I was asking for. Thanks for the feedback.


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