Hi guys. Whats up? New to the forum but not new to relationship theory/game. This is something I wrote a while ago which I thought I would share with you, its about how to avoid chasing in relationships, really powerful stuff IME:



If she doesn’t respond to a text, don’t contact her until she contacts you, and then ignore her some more, until shes chasing you.

If she becomes distant and aloof, don’t sit there asking her whats wrong, texting her, calling her etc. Get busy, get distracted, get away from her and respond to her push with an even HARDER PUSH. Do this until shes asking YOU whats wrong.

NEVER respond to a push with a pull!

If she isn’t giving you enough affection, give her even LESS.

If she won’t fuck you, for any reason other than a medical one, don’t complain/whine/get upset, don’t even show that your disappointed, SOFT NEXT. If she does it again HARD NEXT.

If she is being cold/quiet/moody etc towards you after you’ve given her a chance to snap out of it, ignore her, do your own thing, get away from her. Until she cheers the fuck up.

If she says she needs some space/a break/time to think (no matter what she *says* is the reason) in other words, she nexts you, NEXT HER HARDER. No contact, complete radio silence! Even after she initiates contact, and comes begging/crying to take her back (DON’T!) tell her YOU need some space/time to think first.

If she starts being less compliant with you, start seeing her less, contact her less, fuck her less. If all else fails, SOFT NEXT.

Soft Next is the ultimate tool to make a chick submissive as a kitten and horny as fuck. USE IT.

Always make sure you are less invested/dependent/committed to the relationship than her. None of this will work if attraction is already lost, in which case your fucked anyway.

You chase, you lose (your balls).

Insecure emotions and neediness come from a place of uncertainty, about her and about how into me she is. The best way to be sure she’s really fucking into me, is to have her chasing me (examples above are ways of FORCING her). If I am the one chasing her, I can never be sure of her true feelings, she can only be sure of mine. I make sure she always wants MORE from me ie:

to contact her more
see her more
be exclusive with her
have girlfriend status
go out with her more
hang out with her/my friends more
show her more affection
be together “forever”
care about her/love her more
move in with her
Etc

If she stops wanting these things (chasing), I know something’s wrong, she’s taking me for granted (lost attraction for me), she might be into someone else or possibly even cheating on me. Time to take swift action, like above.

Even if at first you want those things more than her, DON’T show it. If you’re a healthy man rolls will be reversed rather fast.

If you chase you’ll get played, controlled, cheated on, and manipulated.

Hmm...this looks kinda familiar

What's up kller!

This is an excellent post btw. Every time you chase emotionally, you lose.

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Good advice killler.

These are good actions to put in place as a starter, however women will try to get you in to confrontation and explain your behavior if you were to do this to them. At some point you will need to confront the beast you are trying to tame.

How would you pursue through with this?

This not some sort of game you run at the start then stop. The second you stop is the second you lose all the power.

Not chasing her causes her to feel insecurity. This is exactly why its so effective.
Security = she 'has' you = boredom = her attraction for you drops.

Sometimes she will feel insecure/upset and just needs to vent a little. As long as its in a mature and respectful way thats fine. The important thing is to not get sucked into her frame, try not to answer her directly and don't let it turn into a long ass discussion. Just keep being your usual lighthearted self, make jokes, pick on her, change the subject, then escelate to sex as soon as possible (Sex is always the end goal here since she is HORNY as fuck in these moments). Afterwards disregard everything that was said and move on.

If she has a tantrum, shouts or makes demands then just give her a perplexed look, tell her she looks like she has some problems she needs to sort out and that you have to get going. Then LEAVE. Soft next, ignore her for at least a few days. She will think twice before doing it again.

The most important thing is to not give way to her demands. It only leads to you losing the power and becoming her bitch.

Excellent post.

Question, you mention sex and to escalate it... How much emphasis comparable to their interest would you put on sex? If your getting it and she's willing to give and is horny for you.. everything's good right..? Or would you say there are exceptions?

Guys...

Relationships aren't games. It's completely different.

What ever happened to mutual respect and open communication to solve any problems you experience?

Me and my partner discuss EVERYTHING. Thoughts, views and feelings. We are ridiculously open with each other and honest. In turn we both try our best to make each other feel great about one another and push ourselves higher. I would never want to make my girlfriend feel insecure about anything. I make her feel proud, confident and that is extremely attractive to me. She admires my approach in this relationship and we're both putting in the work to make it...work.

Sorry buddy but I dont quite get what your asking here?
You realize your advice is about on parr with telling an AFC to just "be himself" right? Majority of guys are relationship "AFCs" and have very little understanding as to the dynamics involved. So for them, yes it is kind of "fake it till you make it", but once they fake it and see the results, they will start to grasp the concepts of a healthy relationship, and before long it will be second nature.
Well maybe its part of who you are, and you do it subconsciously, or maybe your girl is just insecure herself... Which is good for you, but many guys arn't non-needy by default. Most guys get insecure, jealous, needy, overly affectionate and end up repulsing the women they enter a relationship with (see all the posts on here with titles like "She says she needs space" or "Taking some time" or "Girlfriend Losing Interest". Believe me those guys did not get to that position by following the advice of "TALK TO HER" or "Express your feelings to her" because those are the exact reasons they are in that position in the first place.

Perhaps I'm a 'fantastic natural' at it.

My view point is respect yourself and you'll command respect back naturally.

Actually I'll agree with what you are saying here on the basis of I did fake it until I made it, and now without thinking, I pretty much do most of the above and incorporate into my relationship. I do think some of the statements are extreme but I get the message you're putting over. I guess I'm against some what 'manipulating' you're partner - sounds wrong.

What I will say is that with self improvement and respecting yourself you'll never come across any of these problems in your relationship.

All in all, nice post for the target audience you are pitching it towards mate.

Sorry should of been clearer. How important an indicator is sex of your gf interest in you?

If she is horny for you thats obviously a good sign but often a woman will still fuck a guy even though she has lost or is losing interest in him, either out of a sense of obligation, because she has nobody else to fuck, or she just feels horny in that moment. Women act on the emotions they are currently feeling, so just because she gets horny in that moment, does not mean she is into a guy overall. Thats why you will often see women still fucking a guy even after they have broken up with him, just because he's there, and she hasn't found a replacement yet.

it is not that I am saying that your relationship will not work out.. just curious about it: how long have you been in this relationship?

WOW this is exactly what im going through!

Story is, I thought I could be all AFC with this chick..I mean I guess I'm what you call a "natural" but, even then I kinda figured everything i've done lately is pretty afc.

Valentines day I got her wine and a heart shaped pizza on top of a hill and this past Sunday I took her to Santa Monica to eat sushi. she was really responsive until then. Shortly after tho, she started getting really aloof or distant I could say... I mean i tried to get more communication but she still seems to pull away (btw on the end of the last date she told me she had suspicions of cheating on me, thats pretty serious right?) Well, anyway I guess I feel killer is right in all he's saying, especially this chick, she said she'd call back tonight but she hasn't so i guess I'll just wait until she does.....sorry If I'm just cutting into the thread, but I thought I'd share my experience with everyone since it seems relevant.....

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We guys don’t chase in a relationship. But we respect them and we give them what they want. But if they ignore the effort that we gave to them, that’s there lost, not ours. Because guys can easily recover and move on. And guys don’t have a hard time looking for a replacement.

Great post!

If you were to hard next how long of a period is recommended?

Is it advisable to next after a certain time after the event? What i mean by this is for example i live with my mrs but every so often she goes away to stay at her parents, it would be much easier to next her when she is at her parents but this might be a week after she has behaviored in a way i want to push her and let her know.

Also, your going to get a lot of shit for nexting and at some point will have to give a reason wether it is bs or not, what are the best ways to get away with it, have the impact & get back to the normal state of affairs with her chasing you again?