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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:06 am 
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Just getting.back into pick up n curious if my looks are helping or hurting my game.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:09 am 
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You shouldn't have a problem, unless you're more worried about your looks than you are about your game.

Get confident!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:14 am 
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I'm relatively confident B. Just hit a down streak... fell in love. Broke my heart, got with a five. Left her n here I am back at it - just.sometimes I feel like the heart breaker was the cutest ill find, not a confidence deal. Curiousty.
Like obviously an 8 is goin to have an easier time saying hi to a 7 - 10 whereas a 5 will have more difficulty.... it can be done sure as hell! But with a lot more effort n work.

Ya feel me?
Just curious on opinions. I personally feel I can do better than the last five. But idk lol :p


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:19 am 
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Pretty sure I need to grow back my hair too :p!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:21 am 
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Tahahahaha .... this is funny .... that you post ur pic and is worried about your looks ...

But on a serious note, you thinking that your looks will either benefit or hinder your game will hurt your game.
You don't need looks to pimp it. Yes, it can help. But their is enough evidence, out there, that you don't need good looks to pimp it hard! For example, I know there are a lot of good looking guys who can't get laid because they have no game.

You got this dude. Ignore what mainstream media tells you and go work on your game. Stop thinking like this yo! Instead, think of things that makes you awesome! Cut the negative thinking and reframe it to positive thinking. This will help your game.

Game is all about self generating positive emotions from within. I know this may sound loco ... but it makes you a pimp whether if you are ugly or good looking ...

Sorry for laughing and being an asshole... I am not laughing about your looks ... I'm laughing cause you actually post a pic concerning about your looks ... ku ku ku .... which by the way, you seem to have no deformation of any kind ... so you are good to go ^_^!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:40 am 
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Not sure you guys are following lol. See I'm not worried about my looks, I've had Cuties before - I guess all I'm saying is a guy who's an 8 will have much better initial results going up to a 7 n saying hi .... a five can go up to the 7 n say hi as well, but needs to have much better game to achieve the same results!

So I'm just curious as to what I'm working with lol :p


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:56 am 
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You shouldn't be concerned with where you fall. Yea they notice but once the interaction starts it you will be gauged on what you do or don't do and What emotions you do or don't invoke in them.

You may also need to work on your calibration.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:20 pm 
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And I'm not sure if you understand what we are saying ...

Do you think that putting you on a scale will help your game? Let's say you were a 7 out of a 10 ... You see an 9 that you want to approach. Does that mean you have to step up your game because she a 9? "Time to bust out the A game baby!" .... tahhahaha

This is addressing your reaction time to approaching girls ... which is a very important skill to cultivate.
This is a common sticking point for intermediate level and even found in the advance level which occurs when they are starting to get positive experiences and are starting to get great results. The problem is as they start seeing girls who are in mini skirts drinking, doing drugs of all sorts, not watching their health and weight who are basically a depreciating asset getting worst and worst and you are only getting better and better, a lot of the times you don’t feel like approaching them.
• But, what happens is that since you don’t approach them your reaction time never builds up.
• Also, when you see the high value girl and you’ve never been with that type of girl you don’t approach her as well.
• The end result is that the intermediate guy don’t approach the high value girls because you don’t have the experience and they don’t approach the lower value girls because you believe that you are to high value than them and you don’t want to deal with it. The result is that you don’t approach at all or your interaction sucks.
• The main goal of the intermediate level guy is to FOCUS on getting their reaction time faster, faster, faster and faster.
- Again, use girls (especially during the beginning of your night) as stepping stones to lowering your reaction time. No matter of what her level is in the hotness scale. Selfishly use girls to get in the flow!
- So when you do see the girl you truly like, you will approach her with lightning speed reaction time.
- The difference between intermediate guys and advance guys are that the advance guys do not think about attraction when approaching. They assume attraction and self prophecy that the girl is attracted to him.


Now this will address Outcome Dependency. Basically, you putting a girl on a pedestal means you'll have to try to impress the girl.
• In the newbie level the approach anxiety is that they are afraid that the girl will reject them and be embarrassed.
• In the intermediate level a new approach anxiety is formed and that is they don’t approach or their interaction goes down hill because they are concern that the interaction will not go well.
- Basically, since the intermediate guy has been getting good results a new fear appears of the interaction going poorly.
• This is when they identify their ego in getting good reactions from the girl.
• You develop this new outcome dependency that is based on good reactions from the girl.
• Now when you have this form of outcome dependency your interaction with girls will turn out bad because you need their good reaction to pump up your state.
• This is when your ego is attached to good reactions and you become reaction seeking.
• When your perception is to seek good reaction you will sub communicate lower level behaviors like:
1. Fake smiling.
2. Not going all out.
3. Not polarizing and just hoping for the interaction to go well.
• The opposite is to self amuse and don’t care how the girl responses.
- When girls feel like you don’t care about the outcome of the interaction it will make her feel good and they want to be a part of that.
• How to achieve no outcome dependency?
- At the beginning of the night focus on how you can have fun and how you can fuck around and not care.
• Selfishly use girls to get in that happy and fun vibe head space. Then you will get girls you truly want to be with!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:41 pm 
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Well, you win. At everything.

Hitting the mall n coffee shop tonight, see who wants to have a coffee with me.:p


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:11 pm 
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Any tips?
I don't really do lines or any of that thing feels too fake.

I usually just give a smile, if she seems receptive just kinda walk over n ask if I can join - sometimes I just kinda walk over n say hi n ask if I CA. Join her as well ... if I dont initially catch her eye - I'm a bit rusty by now..but idk, whatcha all think!
Thanks for all the help guys!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:27 pm 
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Heheehe yes I win ... muahhaha! Just kidding ... I just don't want you to go down that road of attaching yourself to your ego. It really sucks and can ruin some guys O_O ... just let loose and fuck shit up to experiment ... it's really is fun ^_^ ... girls dig it when you have nothing to loose.

But yes here are some advice and skill to cultivate!

I want you to experiment on something. Don't focus on the content of your conversation. But instead focus on the sub communication.

Focus on these 3 things:
1) Maintain Hardcore eye contact.
- Just focus on her eyes and that is it. Don't focus on what to say. The words will come after ^_^.
- It's okay to have the awkward silents. Let her feel uncomfortable and she will be force to say something. This is her gaming you now.
2) Be loud. Even if you are day gaming. Why be loud? Conveys that you are honest and you don't hide anything. You are comfortable with social pressure. It shows you are relax and un stifled.
3) Breaking Rapport Tonality or Commanding and Challenging tonality (CC for short).
- Imagine a Police officer, or your dad, or your boss talking to you when you did something wrong.
- The pitch of your sentence drops. The opposite would be your pitch rising. Imagine a homeless person asking you for change. The pitch rises and it sounds needy,
- When you use CC tonality you convey higher value. It will force an automatic response from the girl to qualify her self.
- You can even be in the interview mode while doing this. And the shit you say will be gold!
example: "What's your name? (CC tonality)"
"Where your from? (CC Tonality)"
"Hey (CC Tonality)! You're Cute (CC Tonality)."

Watch your game sky rocket!

Extra tip. If you don't like asking questions ... convert your questions into statements.
Example - "Where your from?" Transformed to, "You look like your from Toronto."
- "What's your nationality?" Transformed to, "You look Spanish."

If you get it right ... it will come out as a cold read. If you get it wrong. She will correct you. But the goal is to also come out as higher value!

It's not about the words you say. It's the sub communication you are conveying.

HAVE FUN!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:46 pm 
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I don't really have an issue talking or.making convo - I feel im good.conversationalist.... I don't really have approach anxiety either.

My biggest concern is not looking like a creep asking to join her for.coffee.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:47 pm 
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Sorry for the grammar. My.cell phone suck


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:32 pm 
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sorry I just copied and paste my post from another post I had ... but the 3 things I said above are sub communications ... behaviors that high value males have. It also helps you stop thinking about things like ... "How can I not be creepy ... how can I not be creepy ... how can I not be creepy" You trying not to be creepy will make you creepy ^_^.

For example just focusing on her eyes helps you divert from focusing from thinking to much. And girls can sense this. When a girl looks in to your eyes and you are trying to think of something to impress her will come out creepy. But you thinking about nothing at all (because you are focusing on making eye contact) ... is super attractive to a girl because you are not trying to impress or convey value! Just like every other guy who tries to hit on her .....

Focusing solely on maintaining eye contact will help stay present and in the moment and you will sub communicate high value shit! You will find the most whitties things you ever came up with and you will come out normal (opposite of creepy).

Try it ^_^ ... Girls will be saying, "Your gorgeous", "Your handsome", "Your the best one yet", "Out of all the guys here, you are not creepy." ... I've taught this to the ugliest, funniest looking guys (a couple of my friends who are nerds) ... and girls will be saying. "Your gorgeous" ... and I'd be like, "WTF? Him? His gorgeous" ... tahahhaha


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:01 pm 
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Ya I feel ya. I'm not too worried about once we get talking - its initial walking up to a stranger n saying hi without her thinking I'm a creep?

Like I have no problem going up to them n saying hi ....its just when I do I don't want.her reaching for the mace :p


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