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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:56 am 
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What is WRONG with me? I have never heard of anyone having AA like this. Have any of you ever been like this? I read here all the time where guys are like "the first 10 minutes I did nothing. I eventually started approaching blah blah blah made 8 approaches blah blah." Me? Nope. Nothing. Literally nothing for hours on end. Am I really the only one that's like this? How do I fix this? My libido is fine, trust me. It's just when I go out there I am not feeling it at all. Obviously since I'm repeatedly going out this is something I want to improve on.

I do day game 95% of the time. I've never had a winger. I sarge most of the time at my local mall and sometimes at my local bookstore. I've been sarging again for about a month now (I've never been a good PUA though. I'm still an AFC honestly). By the way I know the newbie drill where you ask questions like "Hey do you know the time?" and such. It doesn't help me too much.

It's basically a combination of lack of motivation and fear when I see a beautiful woman.

Please, anyone with experience sarging alone with AA this bad help me. Will listen to any and all suggestions happily. Thanks guys.


Edit: Oh I'm also on the no PMO challenge. Day 10. So you can imagine how frustrated I am right now. It is making me go out more than I was but I'm still not approaching.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:47 am 
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Well firstly, I think this should probably be under the "sticking points" category. And secondly, you're being way too hard on yourself man. You aren't having fun and that's why you can't approach. When I first started I would do the exact same thing as you (and still do occasionally) where you walk around for hours trying to get up the nerve to talk to somebody but then pussy out over and over again.

The key is to start small and work your way up. Don't put pressure on yourself to do a direct approach when you can't even ask a hot girl what time it is. That's just setting yourself up for failure. Start by making small talk with everyone. When you order food, instead of ordering and then leaving like everyone else, say the magic phrase "how are you?" to the cashier and then start talking a little. Next talk to an old lady, comment on something someone's carrying or if they're wearing a shirt with a band that you like on it, just say "hey! Nice shirt!" And walk away.

The next step, when you finally start talking to the opposite sex, you want to have fun. This is the key! Make it fun. There's no point in going out if you're miserable because you'll end up giving up on your goal altogether. Do stupid stuff that makes you laugh. Don't be afraid to get a little embarrassed. I did the dumbest stuff you could imagine to get my nerve up when I first started and it took me probably a week of doing this stuff every day before I finally had the nerve to actually try to get a number.

And by dumb stuff I mean openers like, "excuse me, do you know where I could find some weiners? Like hot dogs...or penises." And make an effort to be awkward about it. I find that kind of thing hilarious, so I enjoyed going out. I'd also stand in the stall in the bathroom and when there was plenty of guys around me, I would yell angrily "Aww damnit! Shit! Why does it have to be so small?!!?" And everyone would chuckle in there. It made me feel good and more confident. Then I would go ask for some directions and so on. Just push yourself out of your comfort zone a little bit at a time, and soon you'll look back and you won't be able to believe you were afraid to ask a hot girl where starbucks is.

You can also check out these youtube videos. They are absoluetely hilarious and they always inspire my stupidity. I would watch a couple right before I went out and it helped alot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJEf_uNEdHI (This video also has my "penis" opener in it.)

Good luck to you man!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:42 pm 
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You gotta' ease into it. Maybe go to a mall and look at some clothes and talk to the female employees. Flirt a little. Then maybe approach a few sets of ugly girls so you don't feel intimidatedby their looks. Changing things up helps too. Don't just walk around the mall aimlessly. Go into the bookstore. Go to the food court. Sit down and and scan, look for some targets. Stand in one place and let people walk by you. Open sets as they walk past. You can also walk around and look for sets that way too. There's good sets to open everywhere, but if you limit yourself to one particular strategy you will miss out on a lot of them.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:34 pm 
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I came across this video yesterday including Tyler from RSD. This helped me out and I think it fits your situation exactly. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeE19ueRYa0

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Thank you for your comments guys. Sometimes I get extremely frustrated when I'm failing and can't diagnose my problem but I think you guys made some really good points, especially about the having fun part. Believe me I was not having fun. I'm gonna take all your pointers to heart.

I was doing the casually talk to everyone thing but I think I have to try a little harder with it. As the RSD video posted here suggests, a lot of this is about getting into state when you're totally out. I'm apparently often out of state. Going to work on this, thanks a ton!


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Well I went out again to the mall today. Still no approaches, however I was far more sociable in general today. Started off asking employees the time, and then what the mall hours were, and then random people what time it was, and one was even a HB8. I was at a department store and tried on a blazer and asked associates what they thought and with two women I got into a fairly lengthy discussion. I tried this with another woman and I was surprised how much input I was getting. This was a great and very casual opener that I'll try again soon.

It was improvement so I'll take it. The biggest difference from today to yesterday was my mood management. Without the advice given here I would have gotten frustrated again and do even less than I did. I'm really taking baby steps here, but like I said it's improvement.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:45 am 
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In all honestly that video I shared opened my eyes to the problem as well. Really though, you'd think someone like Tyler wouldn't have those type of problems. It's just something we all do, and something we all have control of.

At least now you know its not something thats wrong with you, and that you actually have full control over your state.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:18 am 
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Here are a couple of day game openers to get you started: "Excuse me, but I just have to say I really like your style, it looks really feminine(or original)" and "Can I say something really quickly, I literally just saw you and thought you looked really nice so I thought I would come and say hello", then quickly follow up with something like, "What I liked about you was........" or "I don't know what it was about you, you just stood out like a lightbulb" and you can add: "Can you tell me how you managed to get a really shy guy like me to come and say hello to you?". You can also try situational openers as these work good in shops, libraries and museums.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:13 pm 
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I'm the opposite of you. I have trouble with day game but I'm a prowler at night. Maybe because I work overnight and at 9AM I'm not thinking about girls in a coffee shop I just wanna go to bed.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:37 pm 
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I came across this video yesterday including Tyler from RSD. This helped me out and I think it fits your situation exactly. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeE19ueRYa0
He is right! Get advice from Tyler from RSD! There is even infield videos for evidence for you!

There are many reason why you are introverted. Some people are just naturally introverted some people are naturally extroverted peeps. Maybe you work a soul destroying 14 hours before you go sarging ... there are many reasons. But all you need to do is do what the above video tells you. Then develop a process to help you warm up and get in the flow ...

Here is another example of how to follow a process to warm up ...

http://www.rsdnation.com/tyler/blog/fre ... ts-infield


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:00 pm 
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Want advice from a FPUA?

# I guess "going out sarging" is putting a lot of pressure on it!

# I believe PUA is a way of life!

It's a way of opening up to conversations with everybody!

# When you buy something in the store, tell the girl she has a nice smile! (you can run away afterwards anyway!)
Help the old lady cross the street, flirt with her!
Joke around with the metro guy..

# Do it all day everywhere! It's all about the MINDSET.

# Dare to ask for feedback! Don't go sarging to number close. Just ask every woman what she thinks of you. Woman love it if you ask them for help and she will probably love your honesty as well!! Just tell her you're insecure about talking to woman, ask her if you can practice with her over a cup of coffee.

# Ask every woman if you can kiss her, get used to rejection, laugh about it. It's never really about you anyway.

# Go out together! Challenge each other, guys!

And yes.. be easy on yourself! Change takes time and a lot of effort: get in line and stay in line!

If you're near holland, Im willing to get you used to feminine company!

I believe in your manhood!

Love, Krista


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:55 pm 
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It's all in your inner game yo. Be conscious of what you are thinking ...

When you have AA what are you thinking? Are you thinking about negative thoughts like,
- "It's to loud in here."
- "She probably talked to other call guys."
- "Oh she's with a guy."
- "I'm to sober. I need to get drunk first."
- "I'm asian ... she would never go for me ... "
Start being conscious of the negative thoughts ... and cut them before they enter your head.
For example ... "It's to loud in here" ... notice that thinking like this will not help you and cut it out ... "It's to lo [cut negative thought] ..."

Next step is to replace the negative thought or reframe it to a positive one ...
Example, negative thought enters, notice it and cut it ... then replace it with a positive thought like "Why am I awesome? I'm awesome because I'm out and going towards my goal of having abundance of woman in my life."

Here is a better explanation ^_^ by Julian from RSD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 9kOMn5kwII


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:17 pm 
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You can try getting a job, where people come to you and ask you for help. It's way easier to learn how to talk to people when they come to you. That's the way it should be anyway. The whole cold approach thing feels unnatural, because you have to be really really really good at it to make it work. Most guys just kick butt and people want to follow them. Get a hobby or join a group you like Then you will naturally talk to those people.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:40 am 
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Krista had a lot of good points - I would suggest even cropping that into a little piece of paper you carry in your pocket to help you motivate.

Donston, I definitely have that problem. I find some reason an approach is not in order. Silly, I know.

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You are wayyyy too inside your head man. Don't overthink things! I noticed when my "sarging" partners are not approaching, they are usually thinking too deeply in the head. So, one of the ways to get over this is to talk to a friend, maybe through texting. Whatever, just get out of your head.
When you see a pretty girl. Don't think. Just position yourself in her direction and intercept her. Now, heres the part that gets tricky, you either get too scared to deliver your line or you say it too quickly for it to be of any effect at all.
So just calm the fuck down when you are infront of her, and think as if she wants to be approached by you! Now that you have taken 3 secs to calm yourself down infront of her while you are looking as if you are admiring her beauty. The effect will go boom! explode! Once you got that first girl down. The others are easy.

Summary,
Don't get too inside your head. Work out a little. It helps.

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