Ok, this point here I have to disagree with. Sure, it does work that way with magic tricks, but it doesn't necessarily work that way with PU. As I've already said elsewhere, girls that KNOW the game usually ENJOY playing the game. It makes life much more interesting.

This shouldn't affect your game at all unless you're all canned material and routines.

If anything it should help your game because you can enter a set and AMOG the "venusian artist" or enter the set right after they blow it and rag on the dude by asking the girl what not to do. I've done the whole "what the hell did that loser do? So I don't make that same mistake" before to open and it works great if you're a funny guy.

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OK, misunderstanding there. I was talking about stuff like opinion openers, 5 questions game, cube, strawberry fields, Mystery's k-close, etc. It might just be my perspective, but I don't think they'd be as much if you'd read about them in a book and then a stranger came up and delivered them to the educated girl.

I guess the point is, some routines are only fun the first time she's going through them.

There again, that's only a minor problem, since pickup is mostly about self-improvement (becoming a fun person) and not about canning routines.

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On we plough.

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Gotcha man. We're on the same basic page. However, I still love the 5 questions game, and the marry, murder, shag game, lol.

Have we all considered that high valued women WANT to be found by high value men... and that guys like Neil and Eric getting positive publicity with thier book, articles, TV shows, what have you... goes to show that true PUA's represent everything a woman wants in a man. Eloquent, interesting, confident, stylish, and fantastic sexually. Most of the high value women who actually study enough to be able to tell that your a PUA, will associate you with those attributes. It's like hitting the DHV jackpot.

Plus more publicity equals more short term competition, which means the weak give up, and only the strong survive. And I'm all for that, the wannabe PUA are the ones that give the community a bad name... not the hard working ones.

I hope your not trying to get a gay joke going there cuz I'll sue your ass lol jk. i'm not gay hes just a cool guy that can get girls, and he does it in a cool way..I respect him for that...lol

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Ok, on THIS one, I can see how you could have extrapolated that I was inferring that you were possibly gay. I meant nothing of the sort. That wasn't my "insight". Personally, I'm not impressed with Mehow at all from what I've seen by him. And, from what I've seen, adding your comment about him being the best ever, gives me an interesting insight, from my perspective, and in my opinion, into you. That's all. Nothing more.

We are all improving our game, to become "natural" in our pick ups and seductions, if you are natural people cant call you on anything! Unfortunitly Darwins theory comes into play here, as only the strongest will survive.

Blany

Blany good points, but one thing I disagree with is that naturals can get called out on things.

I can see what you mean by a natural getting called out, and when i say you cant get called out when you appear natural i mean that, A) you have a natural relaxed response to being called and B) if it appears to be natural and fluid, you wont get called because the girls will just eat it up... Thats kind of what i mean. of course there will always be some one calling you out asking if your trying to pick them up, or if thats your best pick up line!! but they are just more fun girl to deal with because they put up a better fight!

Hope that makes sense!

Blany

Much better, lol.

Yeah. When something starts hitting the media like this, you just have to use it to your advantage and use the fact that you ARE a PUA as a DHV to make yourself even more attractive. When you explain to people the real concept behind being a PUA is to make yourself the best you can be, learning about social interactions and other things, they realise that it's a good thing and then because you are doing it and it's the "cool new thing", you are looked up to.

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A lot of things become increasing popular when it is first introduced, but those who continue to practice will be the ones who can overcome. Personally, I like competiton it drives me to new heights, and of course the population of HB continue to increase, don't sweat it at all gentlemen, just step your game up.

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i lust for jessica alba, but now since she is preggers. I am lusting for Nicole!!! It's New Year's Day. It was Ben Franklin who said, "Be always at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let each new year find you a better man."

As much publicity becoming PUA is getting I see no change in people in my area. If anything they want to be like me and my wings. They see us walk around the mall, club, freaking wal-mart picking up gorgeous women. When they pull us aside and ask how we do it, we try to explain social dynamics to them and they say fuck that shit and walk away.

The fact of the matter is nobody really wants to change who they are. After joining the community I have found that not only do I have the ability to open sets I never thought possible, I also gained the ability to adapt to any situation. Bring on the challenge I don't need canned material anymore. After breaking the ice, adapt to the situation. Not everything is going to be the same all the time. The books are a stepping stone for you to form your own method.

The more people we get in the game the more types of material we can mix and match. It's not about who does what and works best. The game is constantly evolving anyways, no two PUAs are the same. The only thing that matters is that we are here for each other to help one another evolve to better suit our abilities out talents and to challenge us to push it to the next level.

Now can I get an amen?

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