Hello fellas!
I am new to the community and I have just been sarging for 2 weeks. I met this HB-9 at my university couple days ago and she gave me the IOD look, bitch shield, etc but I was able to keep my frame and continue to be C&F and validate her shield, teased her and make her smile. I was quite surprised when she told me that she is a freshman because she has such a calm, mature, prudent vibe which I find to be really attractive (I am a junior btw and I have a similar personality). I ran Pandora's Box and if I'm not mistaken, she should be an NDR (investor, denier, realist). I offered her help in a subject she was studying (I told her that I'm quite proficient on that subject) and she declined because she said her boyfriend is also good in that subject and is also in a respectable major (I'm assuming that she's trying to make me jealous because she knows that I'm also in one of the respectable majors). Since I was a bit nervous (not showing it) and that I had a stressful week, I accidentally used a mild strawman technique (SMT) by saying that he must be an excellent bf or sth like that. She replied by saying that he is a "good guy" but I could see a slight displeasure in her face. I should have used the goldfish line instead because I feel bad for breaking someone's relationship by using SMT. I then continued my conversation with her by being playful, she smiled and I broke rapport. Do you guys think that she's giving me sh1t test or does she really have a bf? or that she's under 18? (I forgot to ask her age) but yet I thought u're not supposed to ask a lady her age *confused*? Thanks!

Balls-of-Steel

Now I see why she's giving me all the bitch shield and IOD. I remembered I showed interest to her (by using direct opener) and she probably thought that I was needy. Should have sticked to Mystery's M3 Model (A2 before A3). Now should I just repeat the model from A1 the next time I meet her? and just stay in A2 until she shows interest? What do you guys think?

the opposite of needy is indifferent, giving a direct opener is not needy, unless you are needy

if sex is a huge deal, if her having a boyfriend is a huge deal, if talking to her is a huge deal, no matter what you do, it will come off needy, you will have anxiety about the right thing to say, about the right way to get her, about how to not fail

if you are indiferent, nothing is a big deal, she can stay or go, sleep with you or hate you, friend zone you or boyfriend you, who cares, you say what you want cause you mean it, not because it will impress her

if she is saying these things to you like she has a boyfriend, real or fake, it's a disqualifier, it shows you bad logistics and presents an obsticle, it can be disinterest or honesty, the best way to figure out where a girls compliance lies is to test her compliance and create good logistics to further uncover the meaning behind the actions, compliance more or less will tell you all you need to know

she has a boyfriend? no silly line, just be completely honest, if you don't care, just make it a non issue

you do that and blah blah blah he wouldn't like it? no silly one liner, just again be completely honest, that's ok, your not going to let anyone know is she able to keep secrets?

and this game of cat and mouse continues until she trusts you enough to catch her, or until she is honest that she doesn't care to be caught and stops giving you excuses and gets to the point, don't fear rejection, seek to reach your goal so that if they are not reachable, you can get that rejection fast and waste less time on something that will not pan out, when the obsticles are too great, just replace her instead of trying to chase her down, eventually you will start to find re-occuring problems and learn ways to get around them better and they will frustrate you less in the future

instead of the magic strawman technique, just pay more attention to what the girl is saying with both her body language and spoken language, why would she say these things, what is she doing rather then what she is saying

if you don't agree, voice it, and see what happens and how she reacts, pay attention because girls are not full of shit, nor are they randomly always playing some sort of weird power game, they are usually just being themselves and when they say something they don't mean it's usually to either protect your ego so you don't feel bad, or to protect her ego so she maintains a good clean social image that she would like to outwardly project, just pay attention to the social cues and be honest and unashamed of your view points, if she disaproves then it's not meant to be, learn to trust yourself and find comfort in your own beliefs and standards, she is either going to go along with you or she will not be interested, just don't fret it there are a zillion other girls to approach for you all over the place, you just have to clue into how many women are around you, and how to get better at meeting them

Thank you pumpington for replying. I think I'd go with your idea of giving her compliance test (CT), to see if she really has a bf because I'm against the idea of messing a relationship. What kind of CT can I give her? Can't think of one.

Pumpington made such a nice post and you only read 1 line of it, such a waste. Anyway just wanted to let you know your last paragraph is very true pumpington, I agree fully. Its nice to read it just made me remember what I should do with this certain HB situation im in. Good luck guys

Nah man I read the whole thing actually lol but your post made me re-read pumpington's post and I guess I was just too caught up in her, gotta move on from the typical AFC habit. Thanks!