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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:03 pm 
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You should try to analyse your approaches after you make them.
Some PUAs like to keep a journal and keep a record of their approaches. This can be a good way to work out your sticking points to improve more quickly.

After every approach you should be asking yourself:
1. What did I do well?
2. What did I do wrong?
3. What can I do to improve?

If you do this for every approach and record the answers then you will be able to see where you're going wrong, and then work out what you need to do to get further.

You should also try to re-frame the way that you approach women. Don't go in with the aim "I'm going to try to fuck this girl" as she might pick up on that. Instead try to shift your focus onto yourself, instead of her. If you think about what you can get out of this interaction, i.e become a better PUA/have fun etc, then you will seem self-amusing rather than there to amuse her, which is much more high value.

Try not to get yourself down because you haven't fucked, you should focus more on how to improve.
I think that you should also have a look at David DeAngelo's stuff on re-framing, it could be useful for you

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amen to that

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:26 pm 
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You should try to analyse your approaches after you make them.
Some PUAs like to keep a journal and keep a record of their approaches. This can be a good way to work out your sticking points to improve more quickly.

After every approach you should be asking yourself:
1. What did I do well?
2. What did I do wrong?
3. What can I do to improve?

If you do this for every approach and record the answers then you will be able to see where you're going wrong, and then work out what you need to do to get further.

You should also try to re-frame the way that you approach women. Don't go in with the aim "I'm going to try to fuck this girl" as she might pick up on that. Instead try to shift your focus onto yourself, instead of her. If you think about what you can get out of this interaction, i.e become a better PUA/have fun etc, then you will seem self-amusing rather than there to amuse her, which is much more high value.

Try not to get yourself down because you haven't fucked, you should focus more on how to improve.
I think that you should also have a look at David DeAngelo's stuff on re-framing, it could be useful for you
Your goal with PU is to have sex, achieve control over women or create emotional connections? you can't get all of them, specially control and connections they are not compatible with each other, so be careful on how you reply to those questions.

If your answer is sex, then there are much easier ways to get it than by PU.

If you want control, you can improve on your routines and tactics to become more persuasive.

If you are looking for connections you've to understand that no matter who you are or how good you are at PU you are only responsible for 50% of the equation and about the other 50% there is nothing you can do to it. The chances of being rejected are huge.
So here is a recommendation on how to answer those questions:

1. What did I do well?
I did my job as a man by letting her know how I felt for her.

2. What did I do wrong?
I had expectations on how she was supposed to react

3. What can I do to improve?
Let go of my expectations and have more fun the next time.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:03 am 
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If your answer is sex, then there are much easier ways to get it than by PU.
Care to explain that one?


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I believe it was a reference to prostitution Dakkon lol


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:53 am 
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I believe it was a reference to prostitution Dakkon lol
I had a feeling it was lol but I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt! dangerous advice to be giving there


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I know a guy, sure he's nice but let's look at the facts: He's FAT, Ugly and Retard (I don't mean it in a bad way but he has like a bunch of medicial issues like CP and epilepsia). This guy will never get laid (unless he goes to Thailand with a bunch of Money maybe).

So outside a pub last summer, I told him something about a girl which he totally misunderstood as usual. It ends with him, clothed like a big child in starwars outfit or something walked to a three set average of 7/10 on my scale. He kinda said hi, asked if they wanted to join him for party after the pub and somehow managed to get the phone number and a date the date after in less then 2 minutes.

He haven't managed to do that again, but is 300 times failure in a row possible?

I wouldn't leave the country before accomplished my goal. My brain would remember me about this failure everyday rest of my life. My noobie tips: Rethink, Redo, Practice.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:55 pm 
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Hey guys,

I cant get laid. No matter what I do I just cant get laid. I have probably done about 300 approaches incl daygame/night and nothing. I live in CT and the girls here are not friendly.

Im a young, good looking guy (6ft tall) and sociable. My friend said its really hard to get laid in New England b/c the girls here have major attitudes and overall not very friendly.

Im thinking about moving to the southern part of US or somewhere internationally (europe, etc)

what are your thoughts on this????

If you have done that many approaches and still had no luck most likely you are giving off a bad vibe that turns women off. Maybe you are too excited, too loud, too arrogant, too needy, too boring, too desperate,too one track minded, etc. Moving to another part of the country won't help that much.

When you do the approaches are the women generally blowing you off within a few seconds or minutes? It shouldn't be like that. I don't care if you are the hottest guy in the world, or the dorkiest guy in the world even a dorky guy if he's cool, hot women will talk to him if nothing else b/c they feel sorry for him.

If you are a "good looking guy" seeking a "good looking girl" with moderate experience with pick up, your success rate should be about 1 out of 10 to 1 out of 20 approaches resulting in sex depending on where you are running game.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:33 pm 
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OK buddy.

I do know what you mean about CT but it's probably more of a US thing than a state thing. I found the girls to be flaky, aggressive and super 'up themselves', thinking they are all 9 and 10's when most were about 7 at best. I was in the Fairfield area for a while.

The only real scores i made were with not being mister cool and mister social, but more being an asshole and not giving a shit. For some weird reason they seemed to like it although I do not want to have to act a certain way.


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You might be approaching girls too often in front of other girls which will lower social value. Anyway here is my guide to daygame: http://redsgy.blogspot.com/2012/11/my-t ... -down.html.

This has helped many people get laid pretty easily. Good luck.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:26 am 
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Like great-1 said, you need to work on your inner game. A big reason woman are mean as hell to you is because subconsciously they know you're insecure. Also, you need to not think about getting laid so much to where you come off as desperate. You need to relax and have fun when you're out and not give a fuck about whether a girl shuts you down or not. Also, start expecting the girls to be receptive. It has nothing to do with the area, dude, got laid first night visiting Boston and second night visiting Providence.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:03 am 
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I live in CT and the girls here are not friendly.
My friend said its really hard to get laid in New England b/c the girls here have major attitudes and overall not very friendly.

Im thinking about moving to the southern part of US or somewhere internationally (europe, etc)

what are your thoughts on this????

I lived in Mass for a long time. Yes it is harder. I moved to North Carolina and its so much better. People are just nicer and looser.

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For many of us who don't live in the US, it is hard to believe the girls in CT are worse than girls in our own cities.
I live in Canada, I got laid with American girls here in Canada and when I went to US. And surprisingly 2 of them were from CT.
And I'm not a blond guy with no accent as someone mentioned about how racist they can be.
It is an excuse you're giving yourself that girls in your city are difficult bitches, that's why I don't get results.
Almost everyone I've met from different cities tells me that girls in their cities are difficult to approach.
But is it true? Hell no!

I tell you few reasons why it feels that way;
-You belong to that community, so if you fuck up too much, someone you know might hear about it and you'd be a laughing stock. (makes you nervous and stops you from trying a lot of different things) As opposed to that, when you go to another city (on a vacation or business trip), you just want to have fun so you're in a much better spirit and you don't give a shit about reputation or how people look at you.
-Especially if you've grown up in that city and you haven't had much lays until now, your mind does not believe that you can do it; when that happens, makes you anxious when approaching girls which gives them negative images of you from your body language or tone of your voice.

I respect you for actually doing 300 approaches. But as many others have said, you need to learn from your mistakes and analyse what went wrong. (might be depressing but it is necessary)
-Did you change situations/openers/location/target groups/time of the day?
Lets say when people are commuting, they're in a hurry and they wouldn't want to stop to talk to you.
-Day game can be on the street, shopping mall, coffee shop, school, yoga class or anywhere with girls that you can imagine of, don't limit yourself to only one place (unless you become so good at gaming there and get a lot of results so that it's not necessary to go to other places)
-Are you approaching the right target group with the vibe that you're giving out? you're not dressed as a punk with tattoes and a lot of piercing with leather clothing with mohawk to actually approach a women in suit right? Each target group responds differently to how you dress/look
-Do you look nervous? Do you give bad vibe from your body language? That is something many guys miss. I did seminar with few others in my city and 2 guys had this problem; one had way too much body language, the other squinted a lot while talking which made him look scary which probably scared off girls. They didn't know until I mentioned it. So ask your friends to tell you if there's any flow in your body language.
-Posture. Do you have a good posture? People don't talk about it much but good posture makes you look more confident. (and if you look upward, time to time, you look/feel happier)
-Do you speak clearly? Not too fast? People don't like fast talkers.

If you say that it's a problem with where you live, then you're giving up on improving yourself.
Yes if you're a tall, white and good looking, you'd probably get laid easily in Asia but is that what you want?
The world is filled with beautiful (and not really beautiful) women of different races, if you give up now and say, "ok I'll move to Asia" you're limiting yourself to be only with Asian girls. Don't forget that

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