Going off of what the guy said on the previous page:

Walk up to a group of girls and approach your specific target

Guy: OMG can you please do me a favor. I just lost my phone and the last time I remember using it was right where you guys are seated now. Could you please call this number for me XXX-XXX-XXXX
*important to note that again you have to pull off a good act. Make yourself believe that you actually lost your phone and need help finding it. The girl will more than likely comply if you sold your act well. At this moment, once she hangs up, with a suave motion, pull out your phone from your pocket and shake it in the air and say, "and that my ladies is how you get a girl's number at a bar/club"
More than likely they will all find it funny yet impressive.
After that opener you can use any line really. I usually just say, "Now that I have your phone number, can I at least buy you a drink and get to know you a little better. I don't like to call people whose name I don't even know..I'm blah blah by the way and handshake"
Again, it's reverse psychology. Instead of the girl saying those lines, you say it for her. It's always important to keep the girl dazed & confused as well as interested that you just keep surprising her line after line. It doesn't always have to sound scripted but always throw a curve ball. It's important that you take control of the conversation. Cut her off at times if you have to in order to get your lines and point across until you see that she is being swayed and has become interested in you. That is when you put the ball in her park a little and let her talk about herself cause unless you're a standup comedian, no girl wants to listen to you talk for hours.

Be still and know that I am, God.

I'm in this game for like 3-4 weeks.. And this helped out big time!

Amazing post!!

Sex in the Dark opener... (Opinion Opener)

So, I am still a bit new to this community of awesome, but I came up with this opener kind of randomly. I am sure it could use a little calibration, but so far it has worked really well for me. (I would love to get some variations from you guys)

So here goes,

Me: Hey, let me ask you a question real quick (no excuse me's, or can I's, you know the drill). I have to get back to my friends in a sec, but we were all just talking about this. Why is it that women 9 times out of 10 want to have sex in the dark?

***You can also use this opener to find out if they have boyfriends or not from the start.***

This is how I did it: After ...but we were all just talking about this... break out of the story for a sec (body language and tonality are key here) and ask, "well actually before I ask, are you guys taken right now?"

If one or more says yes, well, now you know and can adjust the target accordingly. If they say no, then act a little disappointed (disqualification) and continue on with the question.

I've had a few different answers here such as I don't know, I don't know because I'm not like that (which is my favorite answer because it tells me she's more open and sexual), because they/we are self conscious, etc.

I used this last night a few times and it worked amazing, I even got a few number closes. It basically got the conversation on a sexual tone from the start, which opened things up a lot. In just about every set I entered, I had everyone talking about threesomes and favorite sex positions within 90 seconds at most. Only one time did the girl not really answer me, but I wouldn't call it a rejection because we still spoke for a bit, she just said initially, "I'm not really the person to ask". I negged her a bit for being to shy to answer a sex question and went on from there.

Let me know what you guys think! And again, variations are welcome!

While I agree Mystery's canned game blows ass. faggity fuzzy hat, eye liner and all. Obviously it works for HIM! So not ALL women think he's a "try-hard fag".

And likely works well in it's own niche.

I think the largest problem, is the lack of self confidence in men today, and this site is very helpful in developing that.

I do believe however many men do come to this site looking for that "Magic Pill" that will seduce all women, and land them in bed.

I think you know that "Pill" does not exist.

I like to think the focus of this forum, is not to look for sex or a woman but merely to look for and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.

Personally I believe Women, are attracted to MEN. Being needy is a characteristic of a child not a man. A Guy who acts like a child (needy) “is asking" a girl to treat you like a mother and girls hate that. Women want a man that can lead them into wonderful experiences. Women want a man that can make them feel beautiful, sexy, fun, safe, excitement, desire, attraction, all at the same time, regardless of age, income, or looks.

Helping Men achieve this will only assist YOU in the long run. Increasing the quality of men that approach.

AND the quality of sex once that connection has been established.

To announce to the world "Women are on to you, we found a website that tells us "Men are attracted to Women." is an oxymoron.

Let me just say this; DUH! Better let Oprah know!

As far as using canned material? SO!

It gives the basic concepts of approach and opening.

If it gets some poor soul out from behind his X-box controller, so that he actually speaks to the lady of his dreams...so be it!

But thank you so much for your input "Billie", I trust your intention is not to be the worlds largest "cock blocker" And perhaps your even cute, please PM me your #

Heywood.

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Great topic guys !













Cheers from the UK

Easy opinion opener, works on any set, in any venue.

"If someone says -I love you- while making love, does it count?"

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Me: hey I have a question, whats better a pyramid or an eiffel tower?
Her: eiffel tower
Me: Your naughty you know that

Billie is right, but all this 'opinion opener' or 'lines' shit is a waste of your time and your 'target'. If it works for you then fine, but most of the time it seems silly.

You know what I do? I tell her she looks fucking hot/sexy/whatever and that I'm interested in her. If she doesn't want to know, no more mucking around - I'm off to the next woman.

All this fretting about great openers is just ridiculous, not to mention weak.

I find the Yad opener so called because it was invented by PUA Yad, works wonders for moving targets. After seeing a hot girl pass you in the street you turn and walk very quickly after her, pass her by at least 8 feet or more, space is really important if you are not to frighten the girl. Turn and say; "Can I say something really quickly". At this point the girl will either stop or keep on walking. If she stops continue with: "I literally just saw you pass me in the street and thought you looked really nice so I thought I would come and say hello, what I liked about you was your style......"

I used to use my own indirect or direct openers on moving targets but they never worked well and I was often told to "get lost" with my own direct openers. But since using the one above even when I get rejected the girl still says thanks and walks away smiling.

In my opinion Yad faffs too much. I think the way he stops a girl is fine, but I'm not interested in telling a girl she looks 'nice' - I hate the word 'nice'. Doesn't mean anything to me frankly and I have my doubts it means very much to her if she looks 'nice'.

For me I think its better to say she looks fucking sexy or hot, 'cause if she does then I'm telling the truth. The rejection is still nice, but I don't like to hide my intentions. I still believe Yad's opener as a general rule is trying to attempt to avoid rejection as its too much fluff talk.

I didn't really have time to go through the entire 49 pages of this so I don't know if this has been stated but I always go with. The exact details depend on the type of energy they have.

Me: So I was being a good wing man on the other side of the bar and hooked my friend up with this really pretty lady, but I got the hint to let him do his thing. I didn't want to just stand at the bar awkwardly and:

1: you were all sitting here texting (or whatever they were doing) so I figured I'd help you come have some fun.
2: I saw it was your birthday/bachalorette so I figured I'd come congratulate you.
3: I saw you guys were having a great time and that's the type of energy I like to be around.
4: you were the first group I saw.
5: Insert your own line here. I'd like other opinions.

Then go from there. Personally I like #1 and 4. This works well because you can cue your friend to come up a little later. Ask your friend how it went, and he can say: She was pretty but didn't really have a personality, she asked my number and I gave it to her because I felt bad, probably won't call her though.

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A napkin rose:

http://www.wikihow.com/Fold-a-Napkin-Into-a-Rose

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So I just tried something the other night that allowed me to open a set, touch upon sexuality, and transition seamlessly into negging my target. No idea if this will prove successful in the future, but wanted to put it out there for other guys to try (if it works, don't abuse it by mistreating any women afterwards).

STRAW OPENER

I was done drinking for the night and decided to get a soda before I headed out. I usually hate when I'm served a drink with a straw in it because it feels redundant and wasteful, but this time I chose a straw.

I walked over to these two college girls (I'm 34) and asked them: "Do you think a man can drink out of a straw and still look masculine?" Then I took a sip.

The girls both smiled and laughed and said "Sure."

Then I said, "I don't know, I think it comes across as a little feminine."

Then my target said, "Do you think a woman can look feminine drinking right from a glass?"

And I said, "I don't know, let's see." She took a sip out of her glass, looked up expectantly and I shook my head, saying, "Not really." I sat down with them and chatted them up for the next fifteen minutes while finishing my drink and they ended up agreeing to come to my music gig in a couple weeks.

No idea if she's coming to my show or not, but it's definitely an opener I plan to try again.

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Went out the other night. Girl started dancing with me, I liked her. I leaned forward and snogged her.

No fuss, no faff. I don't see what's wrong with "Hi" and "What's your name?" as an opener. I really don't want to ask questions about stuff I don't give a shit about. I can't say I even care about being funny all that much either...