So I met this girl from an online dating site tonight and it was a crazy night lol. So, we decided to meet at a coffee shop first, I come in order a drink I look over and there she was - she just came in. She was cute. I she shakes my hand and I sort of leaned over and hugged her and I said I got a green tea and she got the same as me - she offered to pay, I said thank you but I told her we'll solut it.

So eventually we sit down, and talk a little. At this point I can't recall everything word for word but I'll try my best. We see a book at the table and I jokingly say, let's read it - so we do for a minute and she laughs at the comic that's in it.

I say, "So the nights young and before we get to know each other, let's guess things about each other" (trying to lead). I guess some things about her, make her laugh a little and she guesses things about me. Said, i was well put together and she said thanks, plus I'm modest too lol. She tells me she finished college to study sociology, I said are you familiar with body language? She says, "no" I said I can tell you seem very shy or uptight. She smiled and said she had anxiety - I said really, what kind? She told me a little about it and I told her I had anxiety too and that I was always picked on at school but promised to become the coolest I can be, not for revenge but to better myself. But she did say, "Well I still don't feel like I know you enough" I didn't talk about myself enough. But I did kino more and I told her about how my ex Gf was very pretty and she was one of the popular kids and she taught me how to just be myself - I learned a lot from her (DHV story) After that I kinda babbled about how she has to relax and not want acceptance from ppl n how no one is gonna tell her she's a success she'll hv to get it herself. She seemed uninterested but it might hv been cause she was shy.

Eventually I said, let's go get something to eat and I leave, I told her I'll meet her there I promised a homeless man I'd give him some money before I left. I leave and make it to the parking garage and she's there too - turns out she lost her car and didn't know where she parked it (it was only 25 minutes ago). Idk why I guess she was nervous. So we go all the way up to the 5th floor trying to find it and it's no luck. I told her to be calm and that it's ok, she did cry a little in the elevator I told her, "Please don't car, I can't see you cry - don't worry it's fine." Eventually I had to leave because the garage was closing, I told her to text me when she got home and I tried my best to give her direct back to the coffee shop so her dad could pick her up. She called her dad and she kinda went off with him, screaming "Shhhh dad let me talk!!"" weird stuff like that. At this point I was really cold and could hardly think so I didn't talk loud enough and maybe didn't try and make her relax enough - but she gave me a hug and I left. The date lasted 25 minutes. But I told her we'll make plans again.

I texted her, a little after that, this is what I said:

Me: Did you make it to the coffee shop, ok?
Her: Yes, thanks!
Me: (3 hours later) How Is everything...
Her: Ok thanks! I found my car and I'm home. Did you get home ok?
Me: Yes. Glad everything's ok. I'll call you tomorrow night and we'll talk more, ok Belle  (joking nickname)
Her: sorry, you must have thought I'm an absolute crazy! I just have no sense of direction lol. 
Her: But anyways goodnight
Me: No worries! Goodnight.

1) How do you guys think I handled all this? I tried my best to DHV and show preselection and be Alpha.
2) Did I come off as needy?
3) Do you think she liked me?
4) She didn't confirm that fact that I should call her - should I still do it? If so what should I say? My plan is to tell her everything is alright and she can make it up to me next Saturday going to the same Sushi place we was suppose to go to (I.e. To set up the day 2)

Note: We did both laugh a lot and hv a good vibe between us. There wasn't any awkward silences.

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Reminds me of my first date with my second girlfriend... Spent an hour walking around in an underground parking garage looking for her car.

Anyway, from the sounds of it, you seem in good hands. First clue is that she texted back. Second clue is that she also asked you if you got home okay. If she didn't care she wouldn't have asked such a dumb question. And she doesn't need to confirm you calling her. Just call her as you said you would.

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Thanks for your response! I appreciate it. Your right, I still have the green light on getting IOI's from her.
But I was never in this position before - it's the logistics. Should we still meet up at the same place we was suppose to go to (to get sushi)? If so, how should I tell her to come with me. I'm about to call her now.

Also, is it a DLV that I'm still waiting on her to go to sushi - know what I mean. Or should I just not bring it up.

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Not sure I understand the logistics issue. And just tell her to join you for sushi, period. "Hey I'm going for sushi. Join me! [in enthusiastic voice]. If you don't like it, we'll go to another place after!"

At this point you're just over-thinking about quite too much. Just remain confident and you shouldn't have a problem unless you do something really beta.

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Your 100% right bro - thanks!! See your coming from an Alpha mindset I wanna start thinking like that. Anyways, I called her from my google voice app - and the number showed up differently (possibly) on her phone but she didn't answer so I left a message saying, "Hey, it's Pink, Give me a call" it's been an hour so far - no response. I think she probably won't call me back but if that happens what should I do? Call or text - if so what should I say

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How every much your worrying about how this date went I would image she is worrying much more.

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Not worrying, just analyzing myself and what I can work on. Why would you think she's worrying more?

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Wait for her to call or text you back in the very least. The ball's in her court. Don't bother contacting her again until she contacts you.

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Exactly - I know the rules. Say if she takes a long time and doesn't respond to me, how long should I wait to text her (cause she usually replies to me through text.) Also when I text what should I say.

P.S. I'm confused as to why this is happening and it makes me feel unattractive, and not interesting - and like I did a bad job. We talk and laughed why would she flake...

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@Swatter Update: So it's been a day. I don't think she's gonna' call back - I have no idea why though, I didn't do anything wrong? I guess I'll wait and text her, how long should I wait and what should I open with?

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Don't beat yourself up my friend. That's the most important piece of advice I can give you. Sometimes you can be close to perfect, but one misstep and you'll walk on a landmine without knowing it. It might have been a story you told that you thought DHVed, but in fact DLVed. It might have been a subtle gesture that gave up you're in fact beta. It might have been a physical feature she noticed. It's sometimes hard to understand where you went wrong. And if you don't know where you went wrong, then how can you improve? Tell yourself you won't sleep with every girl you go out with or number close. With experience and time, you'll look back and realize what it is you may have done wrong.

2-3 years ago I went on a date after having broken up with my gf. I was out of the game, and didn't know the first thing about attraction. I won't say how the date went because I was beyond failure... Beyond what most people on here post. Fast forward to today, and I have no problems landing 8s and 9s (but obviously, not all of them -- no one is perfect).

About your own HB now, well not all is lost. Personally, I would just move onto other girls to forget about her. A girl that doesn't bother returning a call is disrespectful and doesn't deserve my time. But if you're so intent on getting her, wait 3-4 days and send her a text like "Hmmm... She never returned my call. She must have died."

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Thanks for your response. To give you a better understanding of who I am, I'm trying to overcome social anxiety and low self-esteem. I mean I dress well that day and tried to make it fun for her, and she said, "Your well put together" which sounds like a physical compliment but I hope it's not my looks because that would really effect my self esteem and is the one thing I'm hoping it's not...

As for DHV stories I told, we only talked for like 15 minutes, so I didn't say any too crazy. I did say, "girls don't like desperate guys and I don't like desperate girls" and her reaction to that might hv been unconfortable somehow, or when I first seen her I talked to her slightly and it might have got awkward from the initial contact point but after that we both laughed and got along well.

But I didn't act too beta, I did try to give her the right directions I was just confused a lot on what to do, wasn't prepared for it... It really saddens me, I tried so hard for everything to go right and to be a better person. But anyways, the line, "She didn't return my call" sounds Like I'm angry. Most of the great pua's I talked with told me to never ask Why did you call me? lol. What would you think of, 'You still alive?" or something subtle, "Heyy Jen"

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It could be your looks but you'll never know. Even if it is your looks, you can always improve your rank by a notch or two by dressing sharp and working out. My ex would tease me about my unibrow, so I tweeze it now. Another ex told me she didn't like skinny guys. So I started eating more and working out. I never took it personal, I just saw it as an opportunity to improve. Don't let it affect your self esteem.

If she said you're well dressed, she probably meant it and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with your looks.

"But I didn't act too beta, I did try to give her the right directions I was just confused a lot on what to do, wasn't prepared for it..."

Maybe that was your problem. Alphas always know what to do. Alphas are always decisive, never indecisive. Next time, take a decision without hesitation. It doesn't matter if it's not the best decision -- the important thing is that a decision will have been made, and you'll illustrate yourself as a leader. Women love leaders and men that take charge of tough situations. And, while executing your plan, if you realize there was a better solution, then you are allowed to change your mind and explain why there is a better solution. Just don't change your mind a second time otherwise you'll look lost.

And yes, you shouldn't let girls know you're angry that you didn't get a call back. But in that particular text you're not necessarily showing that. You're putting a humourous twist to it by hypothesizing that she died. You can also say something like "maybe she got butt raped by a gang of nigz." But that's just my own personal sense of humour. Apply your own frame to it.

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Well she seen my pics online and thought I was handsome etc., plus, I asked some good pus's on here if Ny looks would effect my game they said no and that girls would like me. But I guess it's a matter of if she'll hangout again.

But understand that when u say yeah it may be your looks I take it a different way. I'm open to the face that maybe she wasn't attracted to me, I'm a logical person. On the other hand I hv low self esteem and it can really ruin my state of mind thinking less about myself.

And I tried to take charge and lead. I didn't let her know I was confused, I lead the first half, stopping the convo so we could go eat, also told her I'd meet her at the restaurant cause I promise some homeless ppl that I'd give them some money before I left. She said she had to call her Dad I said Ok fine, I was a gentleman. But there was nothing I could do, I couldn't make her car appear out of no where. But next time I should have at lease created a plan. I'm always open to hearing the other side dude.

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