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 Post subject: The Married One ...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:08 pm 
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Hey,

so cut a long story short,
I got to know this girl at work (she was initially a client, but we intensified our private relationship AFTER our professional one was over)

She's married, so I didn't really invest too much, it (as stupid as it sounds) just ...happened. Or not. We ended up making out at my place about two weeks ago, touched each other everywhere, and although we didn't have sex, she gave me a blowjob.

We've been writing back and forth every day which I'm currently getting really sick of. We once met again at HER workplace (afterhours / only her and me) and when I started to kiss her, she started giggling and told me we couldn't do this, trying to gently push me back (which she'd also done the first time but then eventually had given in to it).
She then backed off and told me that it'd be too risky since her husband could show up any minute (which never happened / they work at the same workplace). We texted back and forth (it was her who mostly initiated the conversation). In the end I barely wrote back until she texted me asking me why I was giving her the cold shoulder.

I then told her that she was married to which she replied "You never know what could happen" (...)
... the texts started to get sexual again, with her telling me what she was wearing and how she loved to be naked in bed and me telling her how badly I'd want to give it to her.

I then wanted to invite her to do something fun on Sunday, to which she replied that she was busy with preparing stuff for Monday. We didn't write on Monday at all and she now sent me a text telling me "Just wanted to say hi and ask you what's up"

Now, I know this whole thing doesn't really have much of a future, still I dunno how to handle this...

I'm pretty sick of the idle chat, since nothing has happened between us since that one time back at my place.


Please do NOT give me lectures about how morally inacceptable it is to seduce married women.
Again, I didn't PLAN this, it HAPPENED.

Please do NOT tell me I should tell her to "fuck off".

How do grown ups / real men handle this situation?

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 Post subject: Re: The Married One ...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:12 pm 
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Would be cool if anyone could share their thoughts with me.
This is somewhat really tricky and I dunno what to do about it...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:35 pm 
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She is the initiator? At least that's what I get out of this.

What do YOU want out of this?

Fuck and go? Relationship?

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 Post subject: Re: The Married One ...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:00 pm 
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Well, I guess I really like her...
But I've gone throught too much in my life to just fall for a woman regardless the circumstances...

So I'm a bit sceptical.

Starting a relationship with a married woman ...

I feel like asking her "Look, enough of that idle chit-chat. Do you want to continue seeing me, or what?"

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:48 am 
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Talk to her about her relationship with her husband. If she's happy, tell her you don't want any part of it and move on. If she's unhappy, tell her she needs to get her shit settled and decide whether or not it's bad enough for a divorce.

I was in a shitty marriage with an emotionally manipulative man who had so many psychological issues (which he took out on me) I lost track of which medications he was supposed to be taking... and he refused to take them anyway. His manic highs and lows became more extreme and we would get into weekly fights that ended in threats of divorce. But I was too chicken shit to ever see divorce as an option. I married very young (he was much older) and I never learned how to be on my own. Years went by and he continued his threats, continued his controlling behavior. I had absolutely no respect for this man and looked at him like a manipulative child who made me feel guilty for doing anything that didn't directly serve his interests. His controlling behavior isolated me from my friends (because every time I tried to maintain any friendships he would scream at me until 4 in the morning for staying out past 9 PM and having a single glass of wine with my meal). I would turn down invitations without even asking my husband's "permission" because I already knew the answer -- and the punishment for defying him. The isolation was suffocating... I started to feel repulsed by him, but without any close friendships there was no one to talk to about it. No one to tell me I was insane for thinking it was normal.

I put on a happy face at work. Then I met a guy ... cocky alpha male type. Knew the game. He always made me laugh, and -- after flirting back and forth for a while -- was very direct about what he wished he could do to me.

However, he had made the "married woman" mistake before and wasn't going to let it happen again. He said everyone gets hurt, the girl NEVER leaves her husband for you, and you feel like shit afterwards. In his words: "We can never hang out together, because if we do, we're going to fuck".

So of course I convinced him to let me come to his place to watch a movie ~ As much as I wanted to, I wouldn't let it escalate to sex. I told him I couldn't, and he stopped. I had told my husband exactly where I would be and who I would be with. Before leaving home, my husband had told me to film the guy fucking me, then come home, give the video to him (my husband), and never see or talk to the guy again. This was my bipolar husband's fantasy finally playing out in real life. I had actually agreed to do it, but once I was over there, I felt free. We had the most amazing chemistry and we could talk for hours... I didn't feel like I was under my husband's control anymore.

So I refused to fuck him. Not because I didn't want to (God, I wanted to), but because I wasn't going to obey sick bullshit orders from my husband anymore. The guy agreed. He said, "If you ever have sex with me because he ordered you to, I'll never talk to you again. If we sleep together it'll be because you want to be with me, not because he's pimping you out to make sex tapes." We sat together and talked for hours. The next day we hung out, and the day after that. We talked about all the shit I had lived with for years. We talked about his past bad relationships, why he stayed, how he got out, how he got over it. How he learned to be a real person and stop trying so hard to please other people.

Eventually, I realized that stability was an awful trade-off for a loveless, emotionally abusive marriage. I had the resolve to tell him I wanted a divorce and actually follow through. It's one of the best decisions I've ever made and I'm glad that I had someone to help me through it.

So to answer your question:

A) If you see a possible future with her, it's worth holding off on the sex to find out what's going on with her marriage. If you genuinely care for her well-being, you'll be happy with whichever decision leads to her happiness... with or without you.

B) If you don't see a future with her, and you just want to be fuck-buddies, a married woman should be the last person on your list. Do you really want to help someone cheat on their spouse just for kicks? Especially without even knowing if he's a really good husband who doesn't deserve that shit?

Figure out what you want, then figure out what she wants. If you don't want the same thing, move on. The drama's not worth it.

Best of luck to you.

BTW, the PUA and I are still together :)


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 Post subject: Re: The Married One ...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:07 pm 
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Yeah, just met up with her and she told me that she didn't have much time because she had to meet up with her husband. Tried some kino on her but she wouldn't even let me hold her hand for a while. Even asked her whether she was happy in her marriage, she said that she was.

Well, fair enough, now she's been texting me a couple of times in about two hours throwing shit at me like "I kinda like you"...

I could have imagined myself to be with her, but not after how she's treated me today.

On the other hand, it's apparently all a game to her whereas I feel it's starting to emotionally drag ME down...

Should I make it clear to her that apparently we do not want the same things and that it would be a good idea to keep some distance until I've come to terms with my weakness for her?

I mean.. should I put my cards on the table at this point?
We'll otherwise just continue texting back and forth which apparently won't really lead anywhere anymore.

Just ignoring all her texts seems a little childish to me...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:49 pm 
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Would it be ok to fortrightly tell her that I'm not interesting in just texting back and forth catering to her ego?

Again, I don't want this to come across as rude or offensive, I DO like her.
I am NOT going to let her take advantage of me though.

I mean there's nothing wrong with a kiss-ass... LITERALLY spoken, of course! :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:26 pm 
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Talk to her about her relationship with her husband. If she's happy, tell her you don't want any part of it and move on. If she's unhappy, tell her she needs to get her shit settled and decide whether or not it's bad enough for a divorce.
Thing is your her fantasy. You should not bring up the husband. Also do not get attached. Keep it fun flirty and full of sex. If need be have her over your place or get a hotel room. If there is no sex it will die off. Sounds like it already has started with the hum drum texting. Remember she cant drive the sex but wants it. Something to do with societies laws on being a cheater. If she ain't cheating on her husband with you it will be with some one else. Enjoy her while you can. Its not your falut its her and her husbands fault for being an AFC.

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Thing is your her fantasy. You should not bring up the husband. Also do not get attached. Keep it fun flirty and full of sex. If need be have her over your place or get a hotel room. If there is no sex it will die off. Sounds like it already has started with the hum drum texting. Remember she cant drive the sex but wants it. Something to do with societies laws on being a cheater. If she ain't cheating on her husband with you it will be with some one else. Enjoy her while you can. Its not your falut its her and her husbands fault for being an AFC.
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Talk to her about her relationship with her husband. If she's happy, tell her you don't want any part of it and move on. If she's unhappy, tell her she needs to get her shit settled and decide whether or not it's bad enough for a divorce.
Thing is your her fantasy. You should not bring up the husband. Also do not get attached. Keep it fun flirty and full of sex. If need be have her over your place or get a hotel room. If there is no sex it will die off. Sounds like it already has started with the hum drum texting. Remember she cant drive the sex but wants it. Something to do with societies laws on being a cheater. If she ain't cheating on her husband with you it will be with some one else. Enjoy her while you can. Its not your falut its her and her husbands fault for being an AFC.
I agree 100%. Enjoy what you can, just don't get emotional and don't let her either.


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