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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:44 am 
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So Asians, Indians, Latinos, Pacific Islander, and Middle Eastern men. I want to get your experience in pickup.

I grew up in an area with only Black and White people in it, sprinkles of Asians here and there but they were mainly FOBs. When I first came on here I was insecure of my Indian appearance (well people think I am Middle Eastern more often) but then I started to grow. I have come to the realization that my Indian appearance will not hurt me with women much in the US if any, especially since it hasn't hurt me in a region where people are known for being socially backwards (but there are a lot of friendly people here).

Then I had the chance this past December to go to Sweden, had to say no to it since I heard Scandinavian women will only get with Black men or White men and that is it. Heard this from many sources and decided to deny the trip. Now I have a chance this summer to go to Budapest with my friends and I might go regardless and approach despite what I have heard. My friends are disappointed that I decided not to go to Sweden with them.

You see it in porn and you see it in media, only Black or White men are shown having success with beautiful women outside their own race. Then on the internet, people only talk about White men being loved or Black men being desired by all women.

I almost feel that if a guy isn't Black or White, he has no sexual market value. I overcame this in the US where women are lenient but in other places where women are more shallow and care more about appearances, I would think I have a tougher time.

So I want to hear your story. How has your race impacted your pickup journey? Have you approached girls abroad?

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It's all about your frame of mind and how you see the world. You choose to see it in the way THE SYSTEM has molded you, so you have a much, much harder time.

All of your goddamn questions are the same fucking thing. Quit being a slave to the WhiteMind and start behaving through a raceless perspective.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:18 pm 
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I have progressed but right now I am talking about my issue of traveling to a new country where views are different and approaching there. Overall though, this post was to ask questions and get the experiences of others.

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no one wants to share?

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Honestly...

I am Asian and I don't find other Asians physically attractive. At first it was a huge barrier even though I live in the US, and I got to hear a lot of "I have never been with an Asian guy".

It's really building that inner self, that when you realize what you want and what it takes to get what you want. I was never completely honest with myself on dating outside my race. Then at one point, I got so sick and tired of seeing all these interracial couples that I came forward to all my friends that I want someone outside my race. I guess the act of just telling someone else help solidify my inner game because shortly after that I began my first relationship with a half-mexican, half-white woman. :)

What I'm trying to say is, build that inner self. Rumors are just rumors. Go to Budapest and enjoy yourself, not just for the women there but for its culture, its food. And when you see someone attractive there that you want to bring back to your hotel, go for it...you got nothing to lose.

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I feel you on that. Like I wonder how Asian men must feel knowing that so many of their women are dating out and not as many men from their backgrounds are doing it. It is sad that Asian men can't have like a forum or thread where they talk about where in the world they can do the best with women. Yet Black men get to talk about it on any forum they want.

See here is where I think Indians have it slightly better than Asians, most Indian women from my experience exclusively stick with Indian men but Indian men are the same way too. People will say it is due to culture but a lot of PUAs will tell you it might be due to desirability (at least from my experience).

The whole belief in America it seems, especially in the deep south where I grew up, is that only Black or White men can kill it with other races. Even watch porn, all pornstars are either Black guys or White guys.

You have Black guys on this forum and other PUA forums ENDLESSLY talking about race and how women in certain areas feel about them but I feel that other races of men never get that chance. From what little I have heard, Indian men and Asian men can do amazing with women in France and some Eastern European countries. Asian men do alright in Scandinavia too but I have no idea how an Indian guy might do which is why I keep searching.

I see myself turning this trip to Budapest down because as bad as it sucks, getting some Hungarian p*ssy is also a priority for me. Like I could care less about viewing sights, as long as I get to an area where I know women won't mind a man with light brown skin, black hair, and brown eyes, I will go there.

Now I always wanted to go to Australia to experience life there but women there dislike Indian men a lot which if why I refuse to step foot there.

Other than Blonde women, I have done pretty good with women here in the US but I know that abroad women are a lot worse and shallow.

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What what this really comes down to is your mindset. Your mentality is that if it is easier to sleep with a French women, then you will go to France versus if Australian women don't like Indian man, you won't go to Australia.

And with rumors, you might be right. Frenchwomen might be easier to f-close if you're Indian. Or you could totally be wrong and not get a single f-close in France. What I'm trying to say is, you shouldn't let rumors dictate whether or not you go somewhere, even if rumors may be true because there are always exceptions.

If you have strong enough game, race shouldn't matter. I agree with you in that race does play a role in the BEGINNING stages of game (ie. first impressions).

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I don't think race alone plays a role. Like I have Asian friends who have killed it in Minnesota and those kinds of states but struggled in places like Alabama.

Now maybe there are Indian men in Australia who are screwing some attractive White women (not to say this is likely or even happening at all), but the thing is that Indian guy had to go through loopholes to get that woman and that woman most likely wouldn't see him as a choice at all. Issue is, in a lot of Anglo countries (USA, Canada, UK, and Australia), there is active hatred towards Asian and Indian men in terms of seduction and being viewed as attractive.

The US is really light on the hatred but Australia is pretty heavy on it which makes me avoid the idea of ever going there. In France, people are not familiar with Indians so it almost makes an Indian guy with game that has his sh*t together appealing.

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I'm white European and I married a Brazilian woman who genetically is a mix of indigenous Brazilian and Italian. Don't let your mindset hold you back. I know an Indian guy who dated a HB10 White Brazilian girl...and she loved him so much! There will always be people who will prefer certain races but you can defeat that with a confident frame.

Or just move to brazil lol...Inter race relationships are seen as the normal thing to do! It's a complete melting pot of cultures and races. It's why the women are looking so good! You have German, Italian, Portuguese, African, Japanese and Native Brazilian all mixing their genes!


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I'm white European and I married a Brazilian woman who genetically is a mix of indigenous Brazilian and Italian. Don't let your mindset hold you back. I know an Indian guy who dated a HB10 White Brazilian girl...and she loved him so much! There will always be people who will prefer certain races but you can defeat that with a confident frame.

Or just move to brazil lol...Inter race relationships are seen as the normal thing to do! It's a complete melting pot of cultures and races. It's why the women are looking so good! You have German, Italian, Portuguese, African, Japanese and Native Brazilian all mixing their genes!
wait, an Indian (India) guy with a really hot Brazilian girl? dang dude, what did he do for a living?

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I'm an average Asian guy, about 8 on the scale of 10. I'm not tall at all, only 5'8". I also have a heavy Asian accent and balding so I've been shaving my head for a while now. And yet I've never been with an Asian woman my whole life. When I first moved to US at the age of 17, I decided that I want challenges and dating outside my race. I pushed through with it and all the girls I have slept with or been in relationship with was either white or mixed. My current 5 months girlfriend is a 20 years old Caucasian, a HB9 who is 7 years younger than me.

What I'm saying is that it does help being a race with good stereotypes like Caucasian or African, but in the end, race doesn't matter that much. It's all about your frame, inner game and how good you can sell yourself. In fact, in US, because of the diversity and how well people are exposed to different cultures due to the media, they're indeed more likely to make connection and accept the differences. It's actually an advantage to be a minority in this case, because you'd appear so much more interesting to them than the average joes that they meet everyday.

I faced so many stereotype about Asian before, at first I was insecure about my English and everything. But over the time, I learned to improve my inner game, my frame and confidence. It wasn't an over night process but it worked out great. I made racist jokes all the time. I was told that I'm nothing like what they thought I would be based on the stereotypes and that I was interesting, confident and very sexual unlike any Asian they've met. Most of the time, you will encounter shit test and hoops, because just like us, these women don't like to step out of their comfort zone unless you show them you're fun and interesting to be with. In short, the ability to sell yourself, which you will acquire through experiences and practices.

However, there are times that some woman is just flat out not into certain race. Attraction is never a choice. In those situations, I've learnt to just accept it as it is and move on to work on targets that are already interested in me, rather than forcing something never meant to be.

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I'm white European and I married a Brazilian woman who genetically is a mix of indigenous Brazilian and Italian. Don't let your mindset hold you back. I know an Indian guy who dated a HB10 White Brazilian girl...and she loved him so much! There will always be people who will prefer certain races but you can defeat that with a confident frame.

Or just move to brazil lol...Inter race relationships are seen as the normal thing to do! It's a complete melting pot of cultures and races. It's why the women are looking so good! You have German, Italian, Portuguese, African, Japanese and Native Brazilian all mixing their genes!
wait, an Indian (India) guy with a really hot Brazilian girl? dang dude, what did he do for a living?

He was just a student and he was a twat! However he did have game!


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Lady Diana, the princess of frickin' ENGLAND, dated a Middle Eastern man. I'm pretty sure if Arab dudes can bag white princesses, an indian or asian dude can bag a scandanavian girl. I'm just sayin'.

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I'm an average Asian guy, about 8 on the scale of 10. I'm not tall at all, only 5'8". I also have a heavy Asian accent and balding so I've been shaving my head for a while now. And yet I've never been with an Asian woman my whole life. When I first moved to US at the age of 17, I decided that I want challenges and dating outside my race. I pushed through with it and all the girls I have slept with or been in relationship with was either white or mixed. My current 5 months girlfriend is a 20 years old Caucasian, a HB9 who is 7 years younger than me.

What I'm saying is that it does help being a race with good stereotypes like Caucasian or African, but in the end, race doesn't matter that much. It's all about your frame, inner game and how good you can sell yourself. In fact, in US, because of the diversity and how well people are exposed to different cultures due to the media, they're indeed more likely to make connection and accept the differences. It's actually an advantage to be a minority in this case, because you'd appear so much more interesting to them than the average joes that they meet everyday.

I faced so many stereotype about Asian before, at first I was insecure about my English and everything. But over the time, I learned to improve my inner game, my frame and confidence. It wasn't an over night process but it worked out great. I made racist jokes all the time. I was told that I'm nothing like what they thought I would be based on the stereotypes and that I was interesting, confident and very sexual unlike any Asian they've met. Most of the time, you will encounter shit test and hoops, because just like us, these women don't like to step out of their comfort zone unless you show them you're fun and interesting to be with. In short, the ability to sell yourself, which you will acquire through experiences and practices.

However, there are times that some woman is just flat out not into certain race. Attraction is never a choice. In those situations, I've learnt to just accept it as it is and move on to work on targets that are already interested in me, rather than forcing something never meant to be.
moving post man, read it twice

anyways I need to ask you, I know most women will prefer White men but was there ever a time when you felt and actually experienced women taking a black man over you mostly because he is black?

I have dated girls who were White but said they would never get with a Black man yet they were happy to get with me. Then again, this is the USA and it is the deep south.

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Lady Diana, the princess of frickin' ENGLAND, dated a Middle Eastern man. I'm pretty sure if Arab dudes can bag white princesses, an indian or asian dude can bag a scandanavian girl. I'm just sayin'.
Well that Arabic guy was most likely LOADED and rich. I am talking about an Indian guy that is 7/10 on the looks scale, americanized, makes decent money but isn't a millionaire, and is about 6 ft tall. From what I have heard, women in Scandinavia only go for Black or White men, but on the other hand women in Eastern Europe actually prefer Asian, Latin, and even Indian men over Black men so I am going to give it a go. Unless I see an Indian guy or Asian guy or even Latino guy telling me he went to Sweden and killed it, I am going to avoid Sweden not only because of race but because of the horror stories I have heard about the women there.

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