I'm taking a confirmation class at my church once a weekend. First, my class sits in a group and attends the mass, and then after the mass we return to a classroom and learn about confirmation for about an hour. There is this beautiful girl in my class who I really wanted to talk to, but didn't build the nerve to last class. I'm usually not shy, but I'm the only person who doesn't attend private school in that class, so I don't know anyone else. Also I get insecure about approaching girls taller than me, while shorter girls are usually a piece of cake to approach. I have an idea of how I'm going to approach her next weekend, but what should I make the conversation about to keep her interested?

Personally, I avoid direct at church, so many guys and so many approaches, they probably get it sooo much "your cute". You could go with DHV, as in "I seen you around, thought you were cute and wanted to see is there than meets the eye". You show her that you think shes cute (IOI) and (DHV) your interested in "more". Now I tried this once on a girl and she was like oh, I can't cook, boring/ don't want relationship (DHL herself) ... Your mileage may vary. Good luck!

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title made me lol hard. Puas gonna pua

Hitting on girls in church.....Now that's dedication. Best post ever.

Next class, can you approach all the short girls and get them laughing and happy, and then your target will get curious and open you? Basically, can you pawn the rest of the class, sorta ignoring her?

Yeah I reckon in this situation social circle game is the best way to go. Social circle game is characterised by it's indirect nature and is probably the easiest way to game girls but the catch is that it takes quite a bit longer than regular game. It's best because direct game is faster but also riskier and making a direct move on her may come off as sleazy in a church.

What your gonna want to do is look out for people she hangs out with or has taken a liking to. It's hard to accurately tell you what exactly to do because I can't see the dynamics of the group or how good your game is. But it seems like there is already a social circle established there and if she's as hot as you say she's probably a social leader.

What you want to do is approach people in her social group that she is close to and/or have high value, this person is called the gatekeeper because they will open the gate to the social group. You need to make sure that while you are being integrated you will establish that you are a high value person and you're gonna need to do this in more ways than embedding to establish a value similar to or higher than hers. By the time you have been solidly integrated into the social group you probably will have built comfort and rapport with her so you can start building attraction.

(I know it may seem weird building comfort before attraction but this is the way social circle game works, if you enter the group hitting on her then most of the group members will see that you have an ulterior motive and as you are a newcomer and they have not yet invested too much in you they will simply kick you out).

The biggest danger with using this method is the risk of falling into the friendzone. Make sure you keep her on her toes by using push/pull, cocky funny and (occasionally and at the beginning) a LIGHT neg while building comfort.

Hope this helps! I'm always free if you need any more help with it

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Are you really trying to "game" her, or are you trying to make her your GF? Cause they are two different things.

Gaming her means you intend to have sex with her then forget about her, using tips and tactics for the sole purpose of her sleeping with you. I would NOT advise doing this at a church...

Either option would be fine, but I'm going for the latter I guess.

Thanks! Though I prefer to talk to girls 1 on 1, so are there any strategies for isolating her from her group of friends in church?

Well if there's one thing experience has taught me it's that hot girls are rarely alone. Seriously, next time your out try and find a hot girl by herself it's next to impossible.

If you wanna make her your GF your best bet is to game her after class when everyone's leaving or really anytime she's alone. Some upsides are that your not a complete stranger meaning that when you approach her it's not gonna be as hard to game her as it would if it was cold approach. Keep in mind though that since her friends don't know you they are far more likely to cock block or AMOG you especially if she has orbiter friends.

If you want to approach just her your gonna want to look at daygame. I could explain it her but it'd take too long and I probably wouldn't do a great job of describing it.

Check out Yad, he's the PUA who pretty much invented modern daygame. If you can't find anything just google daygame.

Good luck with this girl man, lemme know how it goes.

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