Give me the best critiques you can about anything u can think of! But I'm really struggling in generating a response to the last bit. So I didn't respond to her last text the previous night, in which consisted of -me: You're not creepy, r u? Her: That is the weirdest question someone has asked me. Lmao.

Today, however, I waited to respond till night:

Me: Hey creeper, I'm checking to see if your still alive after all those classes

Her: Haha. Yep easy breezy dayy! Tomorrow though will be a hell of a LONG day

Me: Pack a bunch of antidepressants in ur lunchbox tomorrow then

Me: I got a serious question

Her: lol ask

Me: do u like hookah?

Her: Here is my serious answer lol...yes, I do, but only at Maryz

Me: Hb Layal Midtown?

Her: Eh its a nice place, but I don't care for their hookah

Me: What??? U lost me....I think its awesome. But its been a while since I've been to Maryz. What dy order?

Her: Varies depending on my moodlol

Me: Oh ur the moody type?

Me: Let's do Maryz this weekend if ur not feeling too moody

Her: Lol okay sounds good

Me: But I need to call u before we make that solid plan. I don't want u to tell me who u r tho. Just want to hear u. This is kinda interesting lol

Her: Wait. You don't even know who you're talking to?

Me: Nope. that's why I want to talk to u via phone first?

Her: You must jog your memory

Her: Before you can talk to me, you must figure out my name!

Me: Are u Pakastani?

Her: Yes.

Me: Do u work at a hotel?

Her: Bingo

Me: Hmmm Idk if I wanna be seen with u in person lol

Her: Maybe you're just not a risk taker. It takes a bold person to be in my presence. Lol

Me: Someone's got a big head! Hold up, I'll call u in a few min

Her: Nope, confidence. I can't converse right now. Headed to bed. Night!

I just want to be able to respond to this and make sure our date is solid. Before the date though, I want to be able to call her. But I want to make sure she's comfortable enough for me to call her and she answer.

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I would say it's not necessary to say anything. but then again, what the hell do i know?

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I have not failed 10,000 times. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. - Edison

Why do you insist on calling her? She obviously doesn't want to, so leave it. Some girls just don't like talking on the phone. Just continue texting her throughout the week to make sure she doesn't flake.

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Hahah a girl saying "night" to you is pretty much her saying F U. You lost some ground with extending yourself saying "I need to talk to you on the phone."

Get her saying at least "goodnight" or nighty night, xOxO muah

> "night? You mean goodnight muaaaaah xOxO <3"
And don't initiate any contact again. Don't reward bad behavior, and don't ever ask permission to call. A call is appropriate after a first "get to know you meet up" that ended with a nice kiss turned kissing, turned feeling her tittaye and sending her off horny

[quote="glowstik"]Hahah a girl saying "night" to you is pretty much her saying F U. You lost some ground with extending yourself saying "I need to talk to you on the phone."

Get her saying at least "goodnight" or nighty night, xOxO muah

> "night? You mean goodnight muaaaaah xOxO <3"
And don't initiate any contact again. Don't reward bad behavior, and don't ever ask permission to call. A call is appropriate after a first "get to know you meet up" that ended with a nice kiss turned kissing, turned feeling her tittaye and sending her off horny[/quote]


So do you suggest that I don't even bother responding to that last text? "Punish" her?

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Don't think about it was punishment, here is the challenge you have,

This girl has zero emotional attachment to you, in fact you are in the negative with her because you totally blew not knowing her name and tried the "creeper" bit with her. (Don't EVER do the "creepy" neg bit again with a girl, just my opinion, but really it isn't cool)

So if she texted you last great, you have up to 3 days to see if she initiates with you. If she does that's a good sign. With "punishment" remember it's just you knowing what you want and nit rewarding bad behavior.

You need to give this girl something to attach some positive emotions with you. This is usually in the beginning stages something like a MMS photo of you (if you're good looking/handsome piece of cake). And if you can get her to take a new photo of herself and send it to you that's a great sign too.

The positive emotions she is associating with you should be rooted in the fact that you actually want to date her on a "date". That makes her feel validated, she wants to think you think she is pretty and attractive

So back to punishing, right now with her you're just an unwritten small story.

How do you turn the tables and reclaim some ground? With a perfectly crafted text sent preferably 3 days after this last text from her, unless she texts you earlier

>"at least, I know what you look lkke! (;"

From her you can compliment her beauty, find a way to send her a photo, and get her to take a pic of herself and send it.

BLAM you're back in the game, no more poorly crafted negs!! Negs should cone back with the response "Shut up lol :p"
Not, "that was weird"
"s

Dude sends a rather strange and bold text which could easily offend. Girl doesn’t seem to take offence but doesn’t entertain his frame either, simply dismissing it in a jokey way.

The next day, dude sends a humorous and slightly cocky text. Girl responds well to humour and offers material for further chat. Dude responds assertively with slightly controversial joke. Doesn’t wait for response but then creates an explicitly serious frame. Girl complies. Dude asks questions. Girl responds humorously with relevant answer. Dude asks for clarification. Girl speaks knowingly on the subject. Dude allows himself to be thrown by unexpected answer and qualifies his own opinion. Turns back to general conversation and shows her further interest. Girl responds playfully. Dude over-invests in her remark and proposes meet up but reinforces over-investment. Girl agrees but with considerably less investment.

Dude then takes control of the frame but it’s a strange frame. Girl seems thrown. Dude holds frame. Girl buys into it. Then invites him to qualify himself. Dude steps into dangerous territory by asking her about her race. She still complies with the frame. He asks a further question, and she continues to comply. He then makes a very dubious remark about not wanting to be seen with her. It’s not clear if he’s commenting on her ethnicity or her profession, but either way it’s awkward. Girl isn’t offended and still accepts the frame, but negs him and DHVs herself. Dude tries to neg her back, ineffectively, then breaks rapport and tries to escalate to a phone call in a rather pushy way. Girl hits him with a clear cockblock and withdraws any investment she had in the conversation.

THOUGHTS:

He seemed to have her on the line to some extent, but revealing half way through a conversation that he didn’t know her was a bold move. She seemed to entertain this and treat it in a playful manner, but his over-investment gave her too much power over the interaction. Some of his later remarks were also awkward and made it easy to withdraw where she might not have done, had he played it a little smoother.

[quote="ShotgunTheHotOne"]Dude sends a rather strange and bold text which could easily offend. Girl doesn’t seem to take offence but doesn’t entertain his frame either, simply dismissing it in a jokey way.

The next day, dude sends a humorous and slightly cocky text. Girl responds well to humour and offers material for further chat. Dude responds assertively with slightly controversial joke. Doesn’t wait for response but then creates an explicitly serious frame. Girl complies. Dude asks questions. Girl responds humorously with relevant answer. Dude asks for clarification. Girl speaks knowingly on the subject. Dude allows himself to be thrown by unexpected answer and qualifies his own opinion. Turns back to general conversation and shows her further interest. Girl responds playfully. Dude over-invests in her remark and proposes meet up but reinforces over-investment. Girl agrees but with considerably less investment.

Dude then takes control of the frame but it’s a strange frame. Girl seems thrown. Dude holds frame. Girl buys into it. Then invites him to qualify himself. Dude steps into dangerous territory by asking her about her race. She still complies with the frame. He asks a further question, and she continues to comply. He then makes a very dubious remark about not wanting to be seen with her. It’s not clear if he’s commenting on her ethnicity or her profession, but either way it’s awkward. Girl isn’t offended and still accepts the frame, but negs him and DHVs herself. Dude tries to neg her back, ineffectively, then breaks rapport and tries to escalate to a phone call in a rather pushy way. Girl hits him with a clear cockblock and withdraws any investment she had in the conversation.

THOUGHTS:

He seemed to have her on the line to some extent, but revealing half way through a conversation that he didn’t know her was a bold move. She seemed to entertain this and treat it in a playful manner, but his over-investment gave her too much power over the interaction. Some of his later remarks were also awkward and made it easy to withdraw where she might not have done, had he played it a little smoother.[/quote]

And u suggest I do what?

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I'd suggest you read what I and others have written, think about it and decide for yourself what are the lessons to be learned. Then have another go with this girl, if you feel the need, and don't be concerned with whether you succeed or fail, but only what you can learn from it.