There is only one question I am asking myself at the moment.

When is the right time to kino your target? I believe it's not always the case when you keep touch her all the time. It must be very slick to do this....

Start touching everything in your life. Spend more time holding your coffee cup, feeling fine furniture, appreciating fine fabric etc . . . People who kino well are usually 'touchy feely' with everything. . . they tend to appreciate the sense of touch more in general.

Kino is not a 'pounce' but it's not really 'slick' either. It's not as if you're sneaking in a kino here and there. You do it because it's just a natural thing to do. Whether you start off by introducing each other's names or you remember to introduce yourself after a few minutes of convo, it's just normal to offer a handshake when you, "Oh, so my name is _____." If you want to grab her attention, it's normal grab her elbow gently and then point to whatever you want her to see. It's natural to tap her on her upper arm when you laugh over a funny joke. And sure, there are a few 'tricks' out there such as grabbing her hand and looking at her palm intently as if you're reading her palm; she goes, "you read palm lines? What does it say?" And you just go, "No not really. I just wanted to hold your hand." But generally, you just do what's normal. And what is normal is that as people begin to feel more comfortable with each other, they tend to touch each other more intimately. Think of her body as the "Vitruvian Man" and imagine it as a large target with rings. (Her vagina being the bullseye) You will see with the above suggestions that every step of the way from the hand shake, to the elbow tug, to the upper arm, I am going closer and closer to the bullseye. The process can be slow or fast.... or you could skip a ring or two in the process... but the natural order of things remains. You go from the outer rings and work your way in.

*That little hand holding trick.... in all my years, I had only one girl pull her hand away and run away in fear. Most pull their hand away and laugh, laugh, laugh... only to grab my hand just a few moments later...

** There are some people who are petrified of touching. Some are simply just skittish... you don't want to be hanging around these people any ways. They tend to be frigid in EVERY WAY.

Time: 21st January 2012
Venue: Clubs
Results: A brief kiss-close with a 9 Polish HB and now I am in a situation where I am losing her.

WARNING: PLEASE DON’T THINK I AM GOOD AT MY GAME. I AM STILL SEEKING A RIGHT WAY TO PROCEED IN MY GAME.

A little update of me
I didn’t put the CX project off but still carrying on because I slept with a 21-year-old 7.5 dutch coach surfer. I was about to write a field report of the whole adventure. However, when I looked back and applied the same techniques to other girls including coach surfers, they didn’t work.

The techniques were very simple --- unnatural touching, talking sex a lot and intense eye contacts. I reckoned the dutchie was a bit promiscuous and I was at a right time in a right place; as a result, I had her during her stay in my flat.

After the dutchie, I have no luck with any girl; however, I am getting deeper understanding how to play my game better.

A 9 Polish HB
I had ever been with any 9 out of 10 HB before I met this polish HB. The night I met her was the night I had a drink in a pub with my coach surfer in Central London. I did game my coach surfer the night before. However since I had no luck with her, I changed my logistics and made her as my wing lady to sarge other girls. Of course she didn’t know it at all because I was so subtle and slick.

When my target and her friends came into the pub, they sat at a table ahead of ours. I instantly had a brief eye contact with my target when they settled down, The first eye contact with her was not long. By my usual tricks, I let go until she let go. After the eye contact tease, I turned around and asked my couchsurfer to guess where they were from. She said that they were Swedish. I quickly joked around with my coachsurfer and asked her to bet on a pint if they were from Swedish. My coach surfer agreed. I went straight into my target’s table to get the answer from them. I opened my target up by asking that nationality question with a big smile and a hand on her shoulder. Learning from my mistake, I didn’t leave my hand too long on her shoulder because of avoiding any awkwardness. She digged and smiled back with a negative answer. Then I turned back towards my couch surfer and spoke from a distance telling her that she lost her bet. As usual, never forgot to put my cheeky smile on my face. I got both parties’ attention. Game on! My target’s group turned to my coucher surfer’s direction and told her they were from Poland. After that question, unfortunately I choked on my words and didn’t know how to follow up. To avoid further embarrassment, I left them with a big smile/ a wink and told them that I didn’t want to ruin their girls’ night out.

Since then, after I went back to my table. I noticed my target looked back to my direction a couple of times even though her back was facing to me. It was an obvious IOI. I made an excuse to suggest to have a picture with my coachsufer by asking my target to take it for us. I went back to my target’s table and asked her for this favour. She was very generous and agreed to do so. After the picture, she asked me to return the favour by taking a pic of her and her friend back. This was a starting point of my proper conversation with them. I asked how their day went. They replied me back they had a good day because my target’s friend took her everywhere before she left London in Thursday. She was a tourist for a couple of days. I suggested to them to meet up for a drink before my target left London for good. They agreed.

The night after we met, I went to a club in north London to see her and her friends again. I was not so sure my technique was right. I kept touching her more than natural from the time when I saw her because I got so aroused by her lovely body and her look. I couldn’t help it at all. It was not possible for me to resist this temptation. I have never got that sleazy and desperate to touch a girl. She was the first one. The whole night we both danced very closed and pretty much ground each other. Nose was touching nose when we danced. Although I had a kiss close with her, it was very brief. I guessed she didn’t like her friend to see it. When we left the club, we held hands and walked down to the street. I dropped her and her friends off at the bus stop. When I left her, she kissed both my both cheeks. I promised I would visit her in March.

However things dramatically changed after she came back from holiday in roma last Sunday. She used to give me a kiss smiley on facebook everytime when I said bye to her. I remembered the first day she went back to warsaw. She was the first one to contact me back on facebook. Unfortunately this romance disappeared after she came back from roma.

The following is the today facebook conversation and please give me some ideas how I can salvage the whole situation:


RonnyC: Halo HB, have seen you for ages. Lets talk in SPAM. Xooxox
HB: halooo i dont have SPAM ;/ how are you?
RonnyC: Ok, what about yr SPAM? . I want to see y again.
I was very good today. What was yr trip in Roma? Did u leave yr heart there
HB: yesss i love roma!!! i was very good day too.... i have new job.... 20:55
RonnyC: Congratulations! How did u get the job? I want yr new foto...........
U must be very good at whatnot doing.... Like using sniper shooting people' hearts (A joke I used to tease her)
HB: thx i m very very happy... now i have 3 jobs i love it
........................
A lot of shit talk and nothing important.
...............................
RonnyC: shit..... hold on, btw, my lips are quite dry. What can I do?
HB: hahaha, gas mask prevents drying of lips hihihi
RonnyC: you dumb asss....
HB: hihihi
RonnyC: You were very generous in my dream last night, but now you are awful
HB: what is awful now? (her English is quite bad, lost in translation
RonnyC: no kisses. that is bad
HB: you kisses all girlls???? because i not
RonnyC: why would I do this?
kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss
I am complaining
kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss
RonnyC: you are so mean to me
I am think about coming to visit you in warsaw
but now..........
HB: ok i I have to go to sleep. I get up for work in the morning
but now???
RonnyC ok, you are so mean, good night
HB: but now..... ??? ;P
why?
RonnyC: Good night
HB: Good night sir, ;0 ;P


Learning Outcome

Out of sight, out of mind. It is not easy keep the relationship like this, especially when I didn’t have a very proper kiss close. The kiss close was only on lips for a couple of sounds and there were no tongue involved. From my past experience, if two sober people have a proper French kiss, this usually leads to a better 2nd date and even f-close.

Too clingy. I made the same mistake again

Questions

How can I have a F-close? I so want to go to Warsaw to see her but I was tied up my current work. I can’t go anywhere til April. I know I am doomed I can see that she started not liking me. I reckoned she knew I was a player because from the fb message she cristised me I like kissing a lot of girls. Roma also made her changed. She might slept someone else there. I don’t know.

Not in a good mood.

Thank you for your advise, kassabi. Hope things go well at your end

Essentially, you don't seem to understand that you are a bad ass mother fucker. I told you this long ago and you seemed to somewhat agree with me but you still don't get it. Whether you believe it now or you don't. . . .some day, you will understand it. But why wait that long? You'll miss out on a lot. . .

Below, we're going to cover some communication strategies but seriously. . . if you can accept that you are a bad ass mother fucker. . . If you can accept this reality, everything will fall into place naturally.
You used the word "clingy" but clingy can mean a lot of different things. What you're doing ^here is begging. - I want this, I want that. "Let's SPAM" = Begging to see your face. "What about your SPAM?" = Begging and hoping she's out of the way so that there's some hope for fuck fuck. "I want to see you again." = Because you remember what we did last time?!?! We kissed for 1 second and I want to do that again and again.
*By the way, chicks will SPAM their 'friends' any time. They'll SPAM their long time boyfriends any time. But if there is a potential romantic interest, ABSOLUTELY NOT. They'll need to have their hair made, make up on, sexy clothes on, etc. . .

Throw away the 'bad mood' hat for now and toss on your strategy hat. How often do you think she's heard ^this response? How many times do you think she's rolled the dice on her intuitions? How many times do you think her intuitions were correct? "So a guy wants to fuck me. What else is new?" - You've probably seen plenty posts written by masturbating monkey pua kids on this site who recommend the overtly sexual route. Mostly, I think these kids roll into this strategy because they have no brains and nothing else to offer than a boner . . . but it would still have been better method than your previous strategy. At least it would have been honest and forthcoming. . .

You have more to offer than boner or "beating around the bush, beggary for sex." Offer it. . . do it proudly . . . do it generously. There are clubs and bars she hasn't seen. People she has not met. Parts of your World she has yet to discover. She's carrying 3 jobs. . . there's got to be some avenue of her life that might interest you. . . and where you might add some value. You are commandeering a large yacht, yet you are attempting to invite her for a cruise by showing off the engine room over and over again. Do you get what I am saying here?
Many opportunities to direct her chat topics into 'real life fun' date topics or even fantasy date topics. Instead, you beg for a photo. . .
I suppose some chicks dig whiny little kids but you didn't do ^this act as a strategy. Look. . . here it is. You were somewhat cryptic but you begged and begged, hoping for that odd chance for a porno movie response, "Yes, I do want to fuck you. Please, yes, yes! Come over! I am a guaranteed fuck! I am really a whore! You got me! So hop on a bus right now because my panties are lowered, I won't charge you and you will not be wasting your money on a bus ticket." - OK, I'm exaggerating but only to make a point.

Look, it was a short while but you ALREADY kissed. The kiss is in the bag now. The next time you meet, as long as you don't 100% fuck it up, a kiss is guaranteed. And if a kiss is guaranteed, sex is guaranteed. If at the very least she didn't expect to kiss you again, she wouldn't bother meeting you. So here's where the bad ass mother fucker thing comes into play. As a bad ass mother fucker, you don't need a green light for a fuck to move forward with your life. You've already assumed the fuck. It's going to happen when you meet. So just let it go. All you do now is make arrangements. Places to visit. Things to do. People to meet. When you do all of this and you end up fucking, I promise you, without a doubt that she will have freshly trimmed her pussy and she will be wearing all the right things under her outer clothes. . . it's because she would have prepared for that night for days upon days.
Yes, but I'd say that the positive outcomes were due to your own confidence going forward. With the big time kiss under your belt, I bet you actually behave more like a bad ass mother fucker.
Of course she fucked somebody in Rome. Are you kidding? People do not travel to hang out by themselves in the hotel to dream about some random guy they met and kissed for a second in the previous city. And she likes you because you are a player. It proves that you're likable and desirable. She didn't criticize you. She TEASED you. This is a thin line but a HUGE difference that you'll figure out every time if you'd only realize that you are a ____ ___ ______! By the way, your intuition on this matter is probably wrong. In spite of all your doubts and what you call "clingy behavior", she's still good to go. Accept that you're a bad ass mother fucker and all of this will make sense.

@Kassabi, you beat me again. You are right, I am wrong. I don't have the talent you have. Can see thing that properly and deep.

After that night, I ignored her for one night. The night after, she sent a message on facebook.

The polish sent me an intimate pic of me and her in the pub on facebook
RonnyC: thanks for the photo. How was your new job in the university (I took your advice, kassabi)

HB: everything is very very good =D but now i must come back to my friends =) because i have smal party
:-* (a kiss)

RonnyC: ok, have fun in your party. Glad you are happy what you are doing.
when you have time, tell me what you are teaching in that university...
btw, If I come to visit u, which area is good to visit in warsaw.
I want to see smth nice and a tourist never see (on purpose, play it cool, no kisses)

The night after in morning, she posted all her pics including the one we both hugged together in a pub on facebook. She didn’t tag anyone, except me on that intimate pic. Her friend gave a comment on that pic--OMG, love is in the air. She clicked the like button.

Tonight, she sent me a pic of her wearing an extreme sexy police woman lingerie costume and exploring her lovely cleavage. When I saw that pic, I instantly had a boner. After I received that pic, I had a little chat with her on facebook. I teased her not wearing that costumes in the classroom because it was a huge distraction to her students. She laughed at my jokes and then I talked most of topics she was interested in it. Before she said goodbye to me, she gave me a kiss. Of course, I gave a kiss back. Everything now seems looking good.

Learning outcomes

@KAssabi I still don’t understand how to be a bad ass mother fucker. I am still contemplating it. It doesn’t matter I admit myself being a fuxking dump ass, but what matters is how I learn to be a bad ass motherfucker.

Read what I wrote on the topic on page 2 of your journal. You don't understand "how to be" a bad ass mother fucker because there's nothing for you to learn or do. There is no particular day to day behavior patterns or characteristics to figure out. Because you are a bad ass mother fucker, all it takes is acceptance.

"Figuring this out" or "trying to understand it" is the domain of losers (couldn't think of a nicer way to say it) who try to imagine behaviors of talented people for the purpose of getting laid. This is like a monkey flapping its arms thinking others will somehow mistake it for a bird. You might have seen their posts here. "I am alpha, I am this. I am that. I am meat." - Flap, flap, flap.

Give yourself permission for your self-esteem to equalize with your abilities.

On another note. . . are you looking for a relationship with this girl?

@Kassabi. Excuse for my disappearance. Last week was very hectic because of research work and teaching. I did read the page 2 of my journal for the last two days. I know what you meant. I think I will accept it.
From my childhood to my adulthood, I always have a low self-esteem issue. Most of my time, I am quite grumpy, worried a lot and very negative to myself. I think this is the time to change. I don’t want to live my life like this.
Yes, I am. Although I had a long distance relationship before and it ended up in a bitter end, I think I should be positive to this relationship. There is a language barrier between me and her, but I don’t think it’s an issue.

To be a proper grump, one needs to think a lot. You'd need to focus on your past failures and also think a lot about potential failures in the future. Interestingly enough, to be a proper 'high self esteem' guy, you'd also need to do a lot of thinking. You'd need to focus on your past successes and also fantasize about positive outcomes. The commonality in both is a lack of mindfulness in the "here and now".

As an educator, you are witness to this every day. During quiz time, you might see some students who worry, worry, worry. They think about the poor grade they will receive. They think about the lack of effort they put into their studies. They say to themselves, "Why did I go drinking last weekend when I should have studied! Now I am going to bomb this test. My parents will kill me, etc . . ."

On the other hand, you also probably see some 'positive thinkers' who think that they are going to THINK their way to an A. They know they didn't study, but they pump themselves up mentally, hoping that a positive attitude will somehow give them an understanding of theorems.

But what about your students who put the time into their studies? Do they overtly worry? Do they overtly fantasize or try to mentally pump themselves up? No. . . they just shut up and take the quiz. They focus on the "here and now"(quiz taking) because they focused on the "here and now"(Studying) prior to this day.

Focus on the here and now. . . this is 'accepting'. All of this is really no different than taking a quiz because your job isn't to 'grade' yourself or to think that you are 'alpha or high/low self esteemed'. During a quiz, you just take a look at the problems and solve them. When you're with a girl, just take a look at here and romance her. . . show her a good time. Whether she's receptive or not is up to her.
Well. . . as long as you know how difficult it can be. . .

Merry Christmas!!!! It has been a while I have not posted any field reports. I think it is time to summerise my adventures of this year before it ends.

A little update of myself.

Up to today, my shagging records are not great. I have only two shags under my belt. One is a dutchie who I mentioned in a previous thread and another one is a polish waitress who I met when I had dinner with my brother’s family in Easter.

In the whole year, I had a few dates with different girls who I met either on an online date website or random chicks whom I met in random night outs. I can’t complain because I did pull more girls than last year. Unfortunately, somewhere along the line, I could not have a happy ending—F-close. What are my problems? I will post them properly from now on. Beforehand, let me give you a head up of the drop dead gorgeous polish in the previous thread. I didn’t shag her when I saw her in May. I guessed out of sight, out of mind. It took me too long to go to see her. I met her in January but saw her in may. Most of romance faded out as time went by. It was a disappointing trip for me but life goes on.!!! What can I say? Take it as a man and move on.


a.) Without wingmen
Gaming with or without wingmen? It is a very debatable topic. Up to this point, I have no ideas at all. I sarged with a few PUAs in this forum. I have not got any results when I went out with them. To be honest with you, I am quite fed up with meeting up any PUAs in this forum. Only one or two are ok. Most of them are weird people.

I can see the benefits sarging with a wing because if you got rejected by a girl or do not talk to a girl, you still have a wing to talk to. As you talk to your wings, people wont see you a lonely git who only stalks girls in a club. However, what happens if your wing is shit at the game and not even motivational? Of course, it makes things worse. I had a few bad experiences of what I have just mentioned.
Just fCCCking annoying.

b.) Not going to international parties
I can see my charms working better on foreign girls than English ones. Although I met two English roses this year, somehow just something was in my way and made me not get them in the end. I don’t know why. I will post the stories of two English in the next thread. Now, lets back to my main concern about not going to international parties. Not many international parties I can get lucky. I have been quite a few parties, but only one that I have more lucky than others. Unfortunately, the organiser of that party is a wanker who tried to destroy my game in a couple of occasions. There was one incident that he threatened me not to take his girl’s number. As I am a peace-loving person, I just walked off and avoided any confrontation. Since then, I barely go back that party. Although I went back last week, I did pull an Italian girl there. However, I can see that I am not a welcome one.

Here is a difficult situation I am facing: If I sarge without a wingman (a), am not going to international parties (b), my successful rate is absolutely zero in nightclubs. The vibe of international parties is different to the one of nightclubs because girls in the international parties are meant to talk to strangers as they want to improve their english. However, in a nightclub, girls are more uptight and it is very hard to talk to them.

How can I resolve this situation?

Time: 28th March, 2014
Venue: Soho
Result: Zero

I did admit that I lost my confident on the game. Since this year started, I didn't do much to improve my social life, especially on the girls front. I have been very busy with a lot of things, but I don't want to give myself any excuse of making no progression in my game.

Tonight I found it very hard sarging on my own. I think I had symptoms of approach anxiety. It hit me so hard. Even though I went to a club, I could not stay there more than 3 mins. I bounced and went home. I know it was pretty bad.

Problems:
1.) I got intimated because once I am not in any CS events, I could not sarge.
2.) Club games without wingmen are very hard.


Solutions:
1.) I will join any social groups to rocket my chances of meeting girls.
2.) I will sign up for yoga classes and cooking classes.

Tomorrow I will go to a club again. I don't want to give up.

Although I had a major setback in the game, I am still trying to make things happen. It is vey slow because I am constantly fighting my negative thinkings and make myself out of the "negative" zone.

I met a 30 year old 7.5 HB via an online dating website. We flirted a lot til last week I made a go to ask her out for a drink. She refused nicely and explained to me that she was busy with her work in weekdays. I did not beg and nag her at that time but gave her a counter proposal that we could met last weekends. She told me that she could not as she had already made plans with her friends. When I got the message, I thought it was a sign of not interest. Then I completely gave up the chance with her. This monday, she sent me a message via the dating website leaving me her phone number for arranging a get-together. I didn't reply her instantly but waited up till Wednesday. I sent her a SMS saying that I am happy to see her for a drink in Soho this Saturday. She replied my message after an hour and apologised to me that she could not make it this sat. At the end of the message, she wanted to have a coffee date with me. I thought a bit and quickly replied her that I would arrange it. Since then, I haven't given her any messages as I don't really fancy the chance. I am not so sure she was keen. I hate coffee dates and nothing would work.

What do you guys think?