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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:55 pm 
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what would you suggest for quality


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:03 pm 
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For direct quality game, The Manual. Another one that's easy to read and free (available online) is Getting Laid in NYC by Paul Janka; just google that and it will come up. Sometimes 17 pages is better than 200.

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Started with Double Your Dating a few years back. good stuff.


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Started with Double Your Dating a few years back. good stuff.
This book is awful, i read it and i regret it!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:09 am 
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what would you suggest for quality
Quality and "fuck as many girls as possible" are not compatible. "Fuck as many girls as possible" means, chicks you can get hard for that don't piss you off. Quality basically means attractive and compatible with you for a potential LTR. You'll need to pick which you'd prefer. It's not to say you can't have a bit of overlap, but it's a lot harder to find sluts in a Barnes and Noble than it is a bar. And it's a lot harder to find a law student with your values in a bar than working broad social circle game.

Anyway, to answer the quality question, I'd look into Sinn and AFCAdam. They're about the only two PUAs I have actual respect for and consider them to be good. I've heard good things about 60YOC, but I've also seen him on camera and he's a stammering weirdo and comes across as a total creeper. Which makes me question the value of his material. I've also heard that the guy from the postmasculine site has useful material if you're socially retarded and need to learn how to hold basic conversations. I haven't seen it, but think highly of the people who endorse it.

Finally. avoid Deangelo, Style and Janka. All are terrible and have no game. I have some nostalgia for Mystery. He's what got my foot in the PUA door, and did help me understand a lot of things I naturally did right and wrong. But I can't really endorse much of anything in Mystery Method anymore.

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I'd say Models from Mark Manson and How to become an alpha male from John Alexander are must reads for anyone wanting to become better men.

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60 years of challenge is also one of the best books out there, it really helped me improve my game :)

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Read things other than pickup, expand your mind, become and interesting person:
The Old Man & The Sea
Ulysses
Fight Club
Freakonomics
Guns, Germs, & Steel
The Kalevala
The Count of Monte Cristo

Skip the movie, READ THE BOOK!
I completely agree with this!

Actually, I have recently been reading a lot of Oscar Wilde and some of the ideas he proposes made me think about game and relationships between a man and a woman.

The Picture of Dorian Gray has a lot of interesting ideas on marriage, romance, monogamy and morality.

"A man can be happy with any woman, so long as he does not love her"

"The nature of romance is in it's uncertainty"


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Instead of wasting 2 months on reading books, go out to the clubs and get some real life experience of what you already learned from mystery method or the game. If you spend too much time reading you will overanalyze everything once your out there.

Not trying to sound like a dick but its the truth, get out to the clubs! the faster the better


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Instead of wasting 2 months on reading books, go out to the clubs and get some real life experience of what you already learned from mystery method or the game. If you spend too much time reading you will overanalyze everything once your out there.

Not trying to sound like a dick but its the truth, get out to the clubs! the faster the better
Nothing beats experience as a teacher, for sure, books are just another tool. On the other hand, reading can expand your mind and make you a more interesting person...

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In reality, start off with a book called Models by Mark Manson. Its the first book every new guys should read.
Yes. Models by Mark Manson is definitely the first book to be read my anyone new to PUA. Written by a guy who went full circle.

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It's very difficult to get an impartial opinion on this, because whichever forum you're in, naturally the gurus are going to push for their materials (as will their disciples).

I'm a member of several forums, and generally you'll hear a lot of noise about gurus from other companies "having no game" or being "fake" and all the rest of it.

As this is a UK based site, it's natural that a great many US based PUAS are going to get some slack (I read that Style and Janka have no game somewhere in this post. Sorry, but bullshit).

It is generally accepted that David DeAngelo's double your dating is a good place to start, and a lot of neutral PUA review websites recommend it.

Two other books which are very highly rated both claim to supersede the original "Mystery Method" (Mystery); They are "Revelations" (Mystery, Matador) and "Magic Bullets" (Savoy). However, both of them are incredibly expensive and Savoy's love systems company has become a bit of a Mc.Donald's chain (much like RSD), and it just seems that every time you use their forum, website or (according to a friend) even if you buy something from them, they are CONSTANTLY trying to sell you something else. That said, most non-affiliated PUA rating sites rate them both very highly. Then again, "Mystery Method" won't even set you back a tenner, the others come at a hefty price.

With regards Style, his book "the Game" is enjoyable and engaging, but do remember that is primarily a biography. It is not a self-help book or PUA manual. I would recommend it though, as it is well written and a great story. His forum is probably one of the best US based forums too.

Paul Jankas short 17 page pdf getting laid in New York was one of the best I've read actually. Sometimes keeping it short and sweet works best. It's free as well so google it.

I've just started reading "Models" as I'd heard good things about it. I'm liking it so far :)

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It's a US based site. I'm American. I've met a lot of these guys IRL. Janka fucks fat, 30+ Persian women. Talking to a few guys who go out with him(not bootcamp) it wasn't just that night. That's his MO. So if you want that, I guess he's a good one to ask. Though you could probably get similar results by offering them ham.

I have not met Style, nor DeAngelo. Though I have no need to meet DeAngelo.

This is DeAngelo's wife
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Style can personally get some decent women. Trouble is, his advise is not very useful at all. Few people exposed to at least 10 other PUAs, would still list him in their top 3. The usefulness of his advise basically boils down to "Take care of yourself, be fun and get out there". True, but that's what just about any PUA or random person on the street could tell you. Then he adds piles of useless junk. I actually said his 30 day challenge thing was decent. His routine based stuff is not going to work as a basis.

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