Ok so theres a HB that is a friend of mine and we almost had something back when I was an afc, but I fucked it up, of course. Right now she has a bf and she told me that he treats her like shit. Now whenever she in my car I dont know what happens to me but I get silent and I hardly talk. Its just the two of us in the car so its an akward silence. I dont know why. In my head Im always telling myself "SAY SOMETHING!". Now this just happened today and Im not sure if she'll want to hang out with me again.

Now Im wondering if I should call her in 2 days to try to hang out with her again. Do you have any tips on what I should do? I really want and need some help with this one. Im stuck.

The real question here is are you wanting to hang out with her with the intentions of putting the moves on her cause if your not going to then don't bother it'll be pointless .

she dropped a hint about her boyfriend being no good go with it
don't drown in your own fear of rejection

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^ i agree.
"My boyfriend... blah blah blah"
Is a defense mechanism.
"My boyfriend sucks, ect."
Is an IOI.
Change the subject when she brings up her boyfriend and pull the trigger when the time is right. PS, the time is right after you make her smile and the silence comes back. Grab her and pull the trigger. Follow up with a "I thought you could use something sexy in your life."
Get her tiger!

But its weird cuz she dosent reply to my messages and IM's. Its only when we are actually face to face that she attempts to communicate with me. Idk.

Any more suggestions?

totally possible that she doesn't like communicating that way. my phone conversations are no longer than a minute if necessary. i'd rather just talk face to face. a lot of girls, i find, are like this as they grow out of their teenage years.

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Back on the bf, everytime she brings it up, she says he treats her like shit but she dosent have the confidence to break up with him.

So heres basically the whole story of my involvment with her and her bf.

Now one time we were hanging out at her house a little while before i joined the community, and her bf came over and started to treat her like major shit and it looked as though she was gunna cry. So i told him "Listen to me asshole. (right here he tried to interupt me and tell me not to call him an asshole) No no no dont talk when im talking to your ass. You dont treat her like that. You dont treat any girl like that. She deserves more respect, and a better bf, unlike you...peice of shit. If i ever see or hear you treat her like that again then i wont hesitate to beat your fucking ass."

After that I stormed out of her house and i dont know what went on between them after i left. But they broke up a little bit after that and now thier back together again. Once again, hes treating her like shit.

Do you think i should do something like that again...or actually beat his ass like i said i would?

no girl is worth fighting over. seriously why get yourself arrested over this stupid tramp. fuck it, she's got one-itis on him. wait til they break up and get it in, but forget about making her your girlfriend. she's used to his abuse and comfortable with him.

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I think u have been wrong when u have triggered a fight for him cause after all you have yet to owe this girl anything(she is just a friend,right?)And who knows they maybe get back together and u would lose everything.So I think u should twist ur strategy a little and try to suck her into ur reality,so when ur alone try to DHV by filling the awkward silences with routines like stories or if u dont have any try the cube or 5 question game for a start and then try to k-close..Just dont let her blab about the bf all the time cause girls are not attracted to shoulders(no offense intended)they are attracted to the game.So,dont let her stuck u in the friend zone and start escalating the process.

Yeah he has a point, you are most likely about to get friend-zoned if you don't act fast. I casn see you try to K-close and her just look at you funny, with some serious LMR, so you need to start dropping SOIs on her like its your fucking job and NOT BE HER BIG TOUGH GUY FRIEND. When she brings up her boyfriend you change the subject every time. She's either trying to make you jealous (or him jealous by talking to you) or she see's you as a bitch big brother figure.
You need to let her know what you want. At this point (after youre exchange with ehr boy) it may be too late. Take a stab now or let it go.

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To onemanshow86:

Actually I do owe her. just recently my grandpa died and she helped me through it. oh and no offense taken.

To shameless11:

What are SOI's?

So when she brings up her bf whats a good thing to change th subject to?

Statement of intent., OIff handed comments showing that you're interested.
Anything from
"That blouse looks awfully sexy on you."
"You're kinda cute."
"I like the way your butt wiggles when you walk."

Change the subject to anything.

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I agree with shameless11,
what the hell are you so afraid of her rejecting you?? So what if she does
stop being her shoulder to cry on
and the way you were about to fight that guy was very stupid she's not even your girlfriend stay out of their arguements.

however i doubt you'll take me or shameless's advice about your problem because you're too chicken-shit to do it so I'm done here

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OneItis LOL...

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so how exactly does he "treat her like shit"? just wondering...

to thugnificient. I aint chickenshit. I went for it today.

I told her she was kinda cute and she gave me a funny look and a small giggle. But later on she agreed to skip class with me again. so I decided to start the whole process over so i started gaming her beginning with an opener and neg and doin the whole thing. the more IOI's I got, the more confident I became.. So I brushed her hair away from her face and got a little closer and tried for the k-close (and she said maybe so i said, come here and lets find out) and she quickly pushed me away and gave me this weird look. There was an instant and akward pause.. and then she told me to take her home. the whole drive was silent.

GAY!! I HATE THE LJBF ZONE!!

But... Oh well. I dont have oneitis on her. I just like her and didnt want to fuck this up cuz shes a good friend of mine. But now that i know im fucked, Im just going to go sarge someone else. No big deal. But ill still be her friend and stand up for her and shit.. if i didnt fuck up our friendship (which i might have). Oh well. Thanks for all your help