Whatever, i know, i know, its true, but, I was kind of looking for a LTR with the chick, but im done with her bro. Time to move on.
Well, she just texted me a simple "Hi"

But i won't be responding. Or re-saving her number.

Good job man, given the situation with this girl (read from the other post) that is the right move. She will chase you if she is really that interested.

Agree with ChrisGrimbles she's playing games better if she's left alone

Thanks dude. And given the situation, do you think shes interested? At all?
Yeah man...thanks for the replies bros! Time to listen to some music to cheer up now lol

If this is the same girl as before then what happened is what I told you would happen.

She realized you were beta/AFC and decided to keep you on the "attention leash"

You didn't listen bro.

I did listen. I did what you told me.

Wow man, just to chip in but you're being a little whiny bitch. One girl flakes and you're losing it? Calm down, drop your ego and see where you went wrong.

You should never have brought up the grandma thing. She agreed. So assume she's going to come. Let HER take care of her logistics.
BAM, done. End of convo. All you do now is ASSUME she's going to dress up real nice and you pick her up. If she doesn't, no big deal! Go out and APPROACH APPROACH APPROACH.

You're coming from a severe scarcity mentality here. This one chick "flaked" on you (she reinitiated with a "hi" meaning she was still interested) and you get butthurt. Also, you went on 2 dates with her. How the hell did that go? Did you escalate at all? Were you the MAN by leading? Apparently not if you haven't even kissed her yet (isn't that your intention, to get intimate with her? If so why haven't you acted on your intention yet?) Of course I don't know all this but am just assuming so.

Stop blaming her for her behavior and see how you could have improved the situation.

Yeah i guess i am over-reacting. but bro the dates went cool i guess, i hung out with her for like 6 hours the last time we hung out and the farthest i went was putting my hands on her torso when we were going up the escalator and i twirled her hair in my fingers in the car when we were looking for a place to eat....

before i droppped her off she kinda brushed my face with her hand indicating a kiss or a hug, and i blew it off by saying," oh i know you dont like hugs, so here's a high five" and i left.

annnnnnd this here proves you DID NOT listen to me. I told you to:

Act Alpha
DO what you WANT not what she WANTS or CARES about unless they MATCH.
ESCALATE!!!!!!

SO let me get this straight, a girl touches your face which you took as a sign that she wanted a kiss or a hug...and you decided to...high five her.

A girl putting your hand on her face and stroking her face with your hand TRANSLATES TO grab my face, be a man and kiss me.

I'm seriously at a loss for words here. I gave you good advice last time bro, even had a another member comment on how you weren't even following it and that you should buy me a beer (where is that btw?)

Anyway. I'm out of this one, you don't seem to listen or realize what your doing wrong in the first place. I seriously advise dropping this girl and going RIGHT down to back to basic.

Some of my mates who are AFC act better then this. I'm not trying to offend you, just show you that I don't think ANYONE can help you with this girl because you don't realize what your doing wrong.

Wow dude you hung out for 6 hours and got to touch her torso! Rad bro!

Seriously though see your problem here? You're not escalating probably because you're too pussy. Youre outcome dependent with this girl and thought if you'd escalate you'd blow it. Damn man how did you manage to keep it going for six hours without even attempting the kiss? Wtf were your intentions here? To have a nice conversation or to fuck her? If it was the former you did great. If it was the latter you fucked up. You were a real nice guy. Fuck that. Stop being the nice guy and escalate and risk scaring her away instead of being the friend who never quite made it to second base. And don't blame her for this because it is ENTIRELY YOUR RESPONSIBILTY to lead and escalate. She will never lead the interaction to sex because she doesn't want to come off as a slut. But YOU can lead it there. You have to be to blame.

So next time man up and grab your balls and escalate and fucking get intimate with her. Hold deep eye contact and be calm and just touch her. What is she gonna do, turn away? So what? Try again later. If she stays she's interested. She can always leave. Why? Because guess what, you have plenty of options available. Get to abundance, work towards it and things will fall into place.

Wow man, just to chip in but you're being a little whiny bitch. One girl flakes and you're losing it? Calm down, drop your ego and see where you went wrong.

You should never have brought up the grandma thing. She agreed. So assume she's going to come. Let HER take care of her logistics.
BAM, done. End of convo. All you do now is ASSUME she's going to dress up real nice and you pick her up. If she doesn't, no big deal! Go out and APPROACH APPROACH APPROACH.

You're coming from a severe scarcity mentality here. This one chick "flaked" on you (she reinitiated with a "hi" meaning she was still interested) and you get butthurt. Also, you went on 2 dates with her. How the hell did that go? Did you escalate at all? Were you the MAN by leading? Apparently not if you haven't even kissed her yet (isn't that your intention, to get intimate with her? If so why haven't you acted on your intention yet?) Of course I don't know all this but am just assuming so.

Stop blaming her for her behavior and see how you could have improved the situation.[/quote]


Yeah i guess i am over-reacting. but bro the dates went cool i guess, i hung out with her for like 6 hours the last time we hung out and the farthest i went was putting my hands on her torso when we were going up the escalator and i twirled her hair in my fingers in the car when we were looking for a place to eat....

before i droppped her off she kinda brushed my face with her hand indicating a kiss or a hug, and i blew it off by saying," oh i know you dont like hugs, so here's a high five" and i left.[/quote]

Wow dude you hung out for 6 hours and got to touch her torso! Rad bro!

Seriously though see your problem here? You're not escalating probably because you're too pussy. Youre outcome dependent with this girl and thought if you'd escalate you'd blow it. Damn man how did you manage to keep it going for six hours without even attempting the kiss? Wtf were your intentions here? To have a nice conversation or to fuck her? If it was the former you did great. If it was the latter you fucked up. You were a real nice guy. Fuck that. Stop being the nice guy and escalate and risk scaring her away instead of being the friend who never quite made it to second base. And don't blame her for this because it is ENTIRELY YOUR RESPONSIBILTY to lead and escalate. She will never lead the interaction to sex because she doesn't want to come off as a slut. But YOU can lead it there. You have to be to blame.

So next time man up and grab your balls and escalate and fucking get intimate with her. Hold deep eye contact and be calm and just touch her. What is she gonna do, turn away? So what? Try again later. If she stays she's interested. She can always leave. Why? Because guess what, you have plenty of options available. Get to abundance, work towards it and things will fall into place.[/quote]

Sigh....i guess its true. you're right about me being too pussy and i was being the nice guy and i was scared of scaring her away.
i know you're not trying to offend me. Youre just doing your best to help me. and i really do appreciate it....i just, fuck, its hard man. i got a lot of practice ta do.....i owe you a beer when you're in seattle