Hopefully by the time you guys read this it won't be too late. I'll give you the story short & sweet summary style. Through my friends on new years eve I met this girl whom my buddy said he already hooked up with a year ago. So I build social value a little then run the cube later on & she sits in amazement. Two days later I add her on fb message her w/ fluff then few minutes later propose hangout. She comes near my house then we go to the beach. Sat & talked, I negged used back of hand to emphasize points then proceed to another location to watch the sunset build fluff didn't kclose because it didn't feel right at the moment & basically because I'm a pussy. We head back and she's singing along to a song & I was looking in my rear view mirror and then she said "Oh I'm annoying you aren't I" in a depressed tone. Then of course I said no dropped her off at her car, hugged, then proposed a second hangout & she said yeah I have to pack on so and so day but anytime before then works just let me know. She talked about her boyfriends in the past & never brought up her hooking up with my friend. Now am I completely fucked or do I still have a chance at saving this?

You're definitely not completely fucked based off the events you described in your date. What was the overall tone/feeling of your interactions while you were hanging out? K-closing on the first date hasn't stopped me in the past from going all the way and even getting long-term relationships. What do you think went so badly?

What I felt went poorly was that I didn't show that I was alpha enough I was shivering like a bitch since it was freezing when we changed venues & didn't attempt to kiss close or even put my arm around her I basically showed a lot of disinterest. I teased her & asked her if everything she bought is 20 dollars since she has a shitty phone & later on she pulls out her itouch & was like see not everything I have is 20 dollars. & teased about wearing dressing up for snow to the beach & points out other people 30 minutes later saying see they're dressed like me. I felt like I should've been more aggressive even if it was the only first time really hanging out

I'm not advocating doing this, but my first few dates I was totally indecisive and asked for their opinion on every aspect. One of these girls the next date was over at her house for a movie which turned a great f-close. My point is, "not being alpha enough" doesn't always hurt you as bad as you think. Though that is not the mind set you want, don't think that it completely ruined you and don't let it affect your confidence. Focus on the good parts of the date if you use at as a conversation tool or just try again in better conditions. The important thing is you remain confident which shows your dominance, whether or not the date didn't go as you had wanted originally.

That's a great reply & agree & my confidence never faltered. I'm going to call her (since she can't text because her phone's broken) tomorrow and propose to see a chick flick that's a musical which i heard was good & say I need a cute chick to see it with though and since she likes singing so much does she want in. Now I'm confident she will say yes, but I'm struggling to find how & when to k-close I almost want to do it in the beginning before the movie so that there will be more throughout the movie. I'm not sure the best way to go about this.

Thanks for the advice.

Personally, I've never been a huge fan of movie theater dates so I can't really give you much advice in that respect. I generally like movies at home because it allows for a more intimacy. However, that sounds like a good plan to get another date with her given her interest in that so don't let my experience disuade you. Hopefully someone else can give you a better idea of how to go about it. Best of luck with whatever happens!

The advice along with your proper grammar has been much appreciated my friend. Thanks. I will repost tomorrow & let you know how it went. If anyone has any ideas of k-close before the movie let me know.

I'm pretty good at movie theatre game. Don't worry about k-closing "before" the movie. You'll have enough time during the movie to get physical with her, don't worry. Get there early, that way you can pick optimal seats (in the back). Then you'll have time to talk before the movie starts, plus the 17 minutes of previews.

Starting off, do yourself some favors and try to touch her before you are even seated. Brush up against her as you're standing in line and walking into the theatre. Put your hand on the small of her back and kind of usher her toward her seat. She needs to get used to you touching on her because there's gonna' be a whole lot more of that to come.

Once seated, be very flirty. Mention something about her hands and grab one. Tell her she has nice fingers/nails/hands/skin/rings/bracelets. Ask her why her hands are cold or sweaty. Touch her leg and feel the fabric of her pants and ask her where she got them from (her answer doesn't matter). Now you've touched her multiple times, it should seem very natural for you to hold her hand romantically at this point.

If she doesn't move her hand at all while you're holding it, that's an iod. If she starts to adjust her grip and squeeze your hand, that's an ioi. You can then gently caress her hand with your thumb. This is very sensuous. Eventually take your hand away. Without saying anything turn your head and look at her. She'll turn and look at you. Then look forward. Wait a few seconds and do it again, only this time keep her gaze and smile and eye fuck her. Casually but confidently move your mouth down towards hers. Don't kiss straight away. Let your forehead rest on her head, leaning against her. Keep your mouths an inch or two apart. Bite or lick your lips. This should drive her fucking crazy. Then go for the kiss.

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Alright that greatly helps. Thank you.

I like this. I hate theater dates, but I may use this sometime. It sounds interesting.

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