Hi,

I've been reading a lot on this forum already, but I'm having difficulties on how to handle this situation:

I'm working at the helpdesk of a school, where I see/help a lot of students each day.
But this one girl got my attention, she comes by couple of times per week (which isn't unusual, they can also borrow stuff from us). I really got a crush on her for a while now.
I don't have problems doing some "fluff talk" while helping her (or any) student out.
So I really want to get to know her better & ask her out for a drink or something, but she probably just sees me as "this nice guy from the helpdesk that helps me out with my problems". How do I get passed that?
There's also not much room to isolate her, since I can't just leave my desk any time I want. And when I'm talking to her at my desk, ~10 colleagues hear every word I am saying.

Long story short:
- How can I go from "that nice guy from the helpdesk" to "I'd like to have a drink with that nice guy from the helpdesk".
- Suggestions on how/where to talk to her to achieve the above.

be more enthustiastic and jokey, go ahead and flirt if you like, not everyone in the room is ganna care about your love life. Live your life and dont care what ppl think,

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Yeah, that's not really the problem. While I'm helping them out I don't have problems talking/joking.
But you can't really call it a conversation, it lasts about a min because they either got to go or there are other people lined up that I need to help.

So that's really what I'm struggling with, I need to find a way to get to know her better. These speed convo's won't do the trick.
I've been wondering if I would just ask her to go have a drink with me, but in her head I'm probably just this nice/fun guy from the helpdesk. I doubt she would say yes to it.

Maybe I overthink this too much. But it feels like I would rush things too much by saying that & lose my chances to get a date with her.

I amactually pretty skilled at seducing girls who I work with. Unlike going on the sarge, you have the bonus of being able to take your time. This is where the cocky funny approach comes in great. Just keep acting friendly, using comedy, kino and negs. It works pretty much all the time for me. But you seem to have a problem due to the fact you don't have any time to execute any routines, etc.

For this scenario I would use something I call Tank Tactics. Be careful, though, there is a fine line between making an effort and coming off needy. I have only ever used it once. Was sleeping with the new girl after a couple of weeks. But you have to take every opportunity to talk to the girl. Breaks, lunch, after work, emails. I managed to walk her to her car everyday by saying
"Be careful on the way to your car. I have heard that there is a killer cat on the loose taking an interest in beautiful young ladies. You should be okay, but don't take any risks". There is a neg in there, but then she asked me to walk her to the car. From there you can ask to do lunch, swap numbers. Etc.

Sorry this isn't more detailed, but I am on my phone.

Could you explain a little bit more what you mean with Tank Tactics?
Is it finding some "excuses" to isolate her so I can have more time to build up to something, or are their more subtleties to keep in mind?

I'm not going to sit here and say I am this amazing pick up artist. However, I have always maintained that, given a bit of time, I can get any girl I want. So I came up with Tank Tactics. I call it that because you just have to keep smashing your way through. Persistence can win just about any girl over.

When I first used that method, everybody could see what I was up to. Was a little cringe, to be honest. But now I have it down to a fine art. My male colleagues laugh now and say that I am so friendly the girls only ever find out my intentions once they are in bed with me. I have even asked a girl at work to tell me when she knew she first liked me and she said I intrigued her. She always thought I was just being friendly and helping her settle in.

Basically, you just have to isolate her whenever you can. Walk up to her at her desk and talk. You don't want to go guns blazing at first. Simply make it like a passing visit. Make it brief. Then slowly start staying longer or catch them at lunch. I once walked a girl I was joking with and negging down the street while she was on lunch with a friend. I walked up behind her ad told her she is my girlfriend now and that I am going to tell everybody; as I put my arm round her.

The next time I saw her on lunch I simply just said hello, asked what she is doing, and walked in a different direction.

The first girl I ever tried these tactics with was a tricky one, though. I remember getting her to go on lunch with me. On lunch she was clear to point out that it was just a 'mate date' and she doesn't dip her pen in the company's ink. So I simply replied that if it was a real date I would do a little better than a hot chocolate on her lunch break. But it was a date. Remember, whether she agrees to meet you in a shop, go for dinner, or in my case - a hot chocolate, its always a date. Anyway. I went and bought a pot of ink and left it on her desk with a note saying "I bought you your own ink, now you don't have to worry about dipping your pen in the company's".

I won't bore you with further stories.

But just isolate when you can and show value. Then use the push and pull. Go visit her when you can, be friendly. Maybe send an email. Nothing has to be rushed... You have time on your side.

If you have any specific question I would be happy to answer.

I heard Gambler talking about creating ioi's with girls. Like he'd be in the club and start pointing at a girl and smiling, then she'd awkwardly smile back. Some girls wouldn't, but the one's that did he'd interpret as an ioi, and rightfully so. The point being that he'd have never gotten an ioi from them unless HE created that situation for them to respond to.

Since you are at a help desk, you aren't going up to her. She's coming to you. What I would do is not create an ioi, but "project" the ioi. Say something like "You always seem to need a lot of help everytime I'm working the desk...why is that I wonder?" By saying this you are basically telling her that you know she likes you and is trying to flirt with you. She may not be, but that is what projecting is all about. You are projecting your beliefs onto someone else. You then look for an ioi, but it doesn't matter if you don't get one. Because you will use this strategy to create flirtation and sexual tension. Then next time you see her after that you respond "YOU AGAIN?!?" and she'll start laughing. Hand her some pamphlet and tell her that you'd like her to review the school's anti-stalking policy, and that you are a very busy man and don't have time for groupies.

You want to make it very clear that you are flirting with her and will continue to do so. That will keep things very upbeat and humorous and when you finally get around to asking for a number or something, she'll be much more inclined to give you what you want.

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Donny G, I really appreciate your input. There's definetly some good stuff there.
But I feel that it's more suited if you're actual colleagues, I don't have the possibility to just walk into her classroom or something.

Therefore I like puaninja's approach, she must actually be my top visitor lol.
I'll just have to take it to the next level, tease her a bit more & lower my serious work attitude a bit

Classes are starting again tomorrow, so I'll definetly give an update!

Go get other girls. Fixating on one girl before you didn't even had her is shooting yourself in your own foot.

Learn how to get other girls by going out & apply the same principles with her.

Don't start posting every little move you make and if you did it right. Whatever advice we give will not really work. You'll just react, react, react, trying to push the right buttons to spark attraction. You're already insanely reacting to her by posting on a forum advice & stuff. It doesn't work like that, your neediness will drive her away.

Full abundance with women, go out. They're everywhere.


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Your answer really surprised me at first, but it got me thinking real good. So thank you for that, sir.
However, I must say that I'm not just focussing on her.
I do go out & try to improve my game at other girls, same goes for other students that are passing by my desk.
But even though you're aiming for a lot of girls, it doesn't mean one can't stick out...
You can't be equally attracted to every single girl you're talking to, once in a while you feel this great sensation when you meet someone.

But you're right, that's exactly what makes it harder because I'm overthinking everything which will most likely screw things up with her. Now, let that be the reason I'm asking for advice.
This feeling is messing with my natural game, so I was looking for ideas that could help me overcome this...

Thanks again for your feedback man, really appreciate it!