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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:54 pm 
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Hey everyone, thanks for checking out my thread.
So I'm new to the game, and just looking for some advice from some more experienced puas if possible. I am generally okay at the approach/open if I'm hanging at a bar with some friends but struggle if I am by myself at the bar. For me this is because if I am with a group of friends I am more inclined to be smiling/laughing, so the occasional eye contact with a potential HB is pleasant and inviting due to the fact that I'm already smiling before the eye contact starts. However if I am at a bar by myself it is really strange to just sit there alone smiling or laughing about nothing in particular and if I make eye contact and then smile it seems more likely to come off as creepy or whatever.
I also never know where to 'post up' or where to stand/sit when I enter a bar by myself. I feel like sitting at the bar is the most logical place but then the only person that can really see you is the bartender or maybe someone sitting nearby which severely limits the options available.
I'm thinking my best bet is to try to make new friends with anyone who looks friendly, guys or gals, so as to appear social and not like a loner.

Any advice or opinions are much appreciated! Thanks


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:14 am 
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"Hey, how are you?"

lots of success since I started using that one. the opener itself doesnt matter and no one will ever remember it. its what comes afterwards.


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That's your problem, you can't post up. You can't stage. You can't coast when you solo sarge. You walk into the bar and literally go right up to the first set you see and open them. Is that hard to do? Sometimes, yes. If you have AA then make it a point to open male sets first. There's nothing wrong with that. Look for a guy with sports attire on and ask him about that team. Talk to a short, nerdy guy if you are intimidated by alpha male types. This first set will get you warmed up and prevent you from looking like a creepy loner. You'll blend right in as long as you start talking to people. Standing on the sidelines ain't gonna' cut it.

This first set can then be your "safety set". They are there to get you warmed up and provide you with social proof and a place to fall back on when/if you get blown out by other sets. Part of your conversation with them can actually be to tell them what you are going to be doing and what you need them to do for you. Tell them "Hey, I'm going to go talk to those girls over there and I'll try to introduce you to them after I get to know them a bit...Be right back!"

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:19 pm 
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Solid advice PUA Ninja.

once i was at this network drink, well i was the most young person there, however i was getting kinda bored since all these 'important' people were already chatting up. so i chatted up to some old guy who looked kinda nerdy. but this guy had a hugely interesting story about food production and sustainability, and was a very good speaker. i ended up talking to him for an hour at least and i invited him to be speaker for a big humanist event. then he pointed me to some professors at a university who were interested to speak.


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Your objective when you are flying solo is to find a way to give yourself some value that sets will pick up on. Whether you conversate with the guys next to you, the bartender or wait staff, or the older woman you have no real interest in. Personally, I have had success creating value with normal day to day conversations with couples sitting near the bar (whether it be a bar or restaurant). Once you have built that value, then you will be able to make your move. In the eyes of the target, you either are not alone or you have the ability to socialize which certainly will relieve the concerns of you being the creepy loner. OR they think you are a nice guy because you are taking your parents out for dinner (this one has happened to me).

Remember, your initial objective (alleviate concerns about you being alone) differs from your ultimate objective (meeting the hot blond across the bar). But, there is a hierarchy involved. You need to establish value and meet the initial objective before moving on to the ultimate objective.


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Thanks for all the advice friends! The points you guys are making definitely address what I was concerned about.
Just to get it straight, would going up to some people shooting pool be a solid first set to talk to? I'm a pretty good at billiards and generally get along well with anyone else who plays. I was thinking then if i approach a set of HBs and it goes reasonably well could invite them to join me and my new friends for a game. Would something along those lines be a solid solo sarging plan?


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I leanred something these past few days.... you dont ANYTHING about her. Just talk to her and see where it goes. IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT IT IS..... So many girls I think wow they are hot and then I go talk to them and I am like fuckkk they are SOOO not what I expected... JUST DO IT

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Thanks for all the advice friends! The points you guys are making definitely address what I was concerned about.
Just to get it straight, would going up to some people shooting pool be a solid first set to talk to? I'm a pretty good at billiards and generally get along well with anyone else who plays. I was thinking then if i approach a set of HBs and it goes reasonably well could invite them to join me and my new friends for a game. Would something along those lines be a solid solo sarging plan?
Yes, pool is good because it's a DHV if you are good at it or knowledgeable about it. And what guys aren't going to want to meet some new dude who brings a bunch of women around for them to meet?

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