So long story short...

Meet this girl who is a friend of a friend. Get chatting to her and hit it off. Took her name, added her on fb and then got her number. Called her, and arranged a date. She's 28...im 23 (She was very shy over the phone which i wasnt expecting for someone older, plus she didnt seem that shy when we met).

Anyway...meant to be meeting today (saturday). I had a message on my fb this morning

Everything seemed great, had great conversation when we met and also great conversation over fb, made her laugh etc. etc.

HB: "Hey, I'm sorry I'm WAY too rough today drank soooooooooooooo much"

Whats the best way to respond to this? in a alpha way.

Any tips would be great.

Write: "Drank too much . . . Is it truly so? Well, how about I come to your place, then I was really looking forward to seeing you." Or: "So you had a little to drink, well you might be right in the mood then for some good company, which I trust to be able to provide."

Something along those lines. Just try to push until she gives in.

This sounds like an excuse. Personally I wouldn't respond anything. She knows that you wanted to meet. If she is interested than she will come up with an alternative. If not than I think there is no point in writing anything "witty" quite simple.

Alpha response to ANY flake should show a lack of interest in the flake and what she got up to AND make it sound like she missed out.

You: You alchy! got something else sorted now so cool, get plenty of bed rest. Sounds like you need it I'l make some time to see you soon.

Personally I think it does a couple things.

You Alchy = A cheeky lil neg, she'l find it fun.

Got something else sorted now so its cool = Its cool she's flaked but you are the one that is busy, she's at home in bed.

Sounds like you need it = Attraction building.

I'll make time to see you soon = You've turned the flake around on her.

Most times in the past when I've used the "I'll make some time to see you soon" I usually get "When can I see you again?" the same night.

''shitty hang overs suck, text me some time in the next two weeks when you are free go out and we will find something to do that we both want.''

basically passed that point you just move on and meet other girls and forget about her, if she doesn't text you for 2 weeks then give her another shout if you want, but you should be mainly focused on meeting new girls

http://manwhore.org/forum/content/awesome-texting

a few stories of mine

HB: your so fun to text, most people are soo booring
me: more fun/flirty texts
hb: flakes

.... if shes into you, she will meet you

different HB: hi this is **** from the other night, lets meet up
me: ok, hows monday

sex happened monday

"Sure."

Tell her "Thank god, I just realized I had plans with some people I met "

I would respond with,

"It's fine, I was actually going to try an reschedule. Some thing's came up."
Then I would make her respond to me. If she's not responsible enough to drink and see you when you have plans you don't need her bro.

Neg the shit out of her so she knows this can't happen again. She needs to know you're in control.

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Keep it simple.

Let me be the first to acknowledge that Pumpington fucking Ronnie O'Sullivaned this shit.

My highly amateur breakdown:

"shitty hang over suck"

Not attempting to argue whatsoever, fuck that "push her till she gives in" bullshit. This acknowledges her point but diminishes it totally at the same time. Yeah, shitty hang overs suck. So do a lot of things. What's the matter with you girl? Are you sick? Are you stupid? I'm not sure what's going on here, but I'm a patient guy so whatever...

"text me some time in the next two weeks"

Orders are always best when they're delivered in a relaxed way...

"When you are free to go out"

Some mild sarcasm - bitch, you have better things to do than hang with me? Girl, you crazy.

"we will find something to do that we both want"

A mixture of humility and assertiveness. Not trying to push his own agenda (take note Mr Marville), but acknowledging that she has her own feelings. At the same time implying that if she's not a daft unreasonable cunt she will find some way to make it work.

Ultimately this message is sooooooo relaxed, and that counts for so much and is not made enough of. So many of these suggestions imply major INVESTMENT, and that is the problem here.

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If something's not fun, it's not worth doing

What DA FUQUE . . . Humility is that frame of mind Christianity forced upon our civilization, of being meek and humble and showing the other cheek, whereas the whole point of manning up is to JUST GET OUT THERE and pursue what you are out to pursue. Therefore, be raw, be aggressive, and go for what you want. Chances of the Original Post was she was playing games and just wanted to see how insistent he could be on seeing her. Also since she was sounding shy, she might not be sure if this guy really wanted to be with her, and needed this extra push.

Humility gets you very little, because due to the sexual market most girls can get more than one guy. If they can blow one or two of them off, they usually will. This will boost her ego (look more guys want me than I want guys), while the one guy that sticks in there and does the push gets the prize. Where are the others? Out there being humble.

Other than that, there is little point in acknowledging a girl's feelings since they fluctuate from moment to moment. No solid house can be built upon them. You acknowledge her feelings, you acknowledge it's okay that she left you hanging. Maybe you win a short-term sympathy vote, but that too is too weak to build a house upon. You give her the relief "oh at least he doesn't hold it against me" and at exactly that point you become irrelevant for her.

Christianity taught Western civ. that humility is rewarded whereas Law of the Jungle (and capitalism) show ruthlessness is rewarded. No wonder so many Westerners go schizo and go abroad to bang girlies that actually still want to be pursued and not playcated.

"Ok fair enough. Shoot me a text when you do feel up to it"

Then don't contact her again.

Ball in her court.

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"No problem, I'll take a rain check" Then wait 5-7 days and try again.

-Wolf

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Screening: drama-free-relationships-1-screening-vt124827.html
Bad Behavior: drama-free-relationships-3-the-soft-next-vt125554.html

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