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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:23 pm 
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I should also add that PUA can be pretty epic for guys that aren't very picky and play by the "every hole's a goal" philosophy. If you're good to bang chubby, dumb girls, game is a ticket to satisfaction.
I agree with you...I do have some standards...but I can be flexible when it comes to getting laid! To be a great lover and Pick Up Artist, you must practice with HB5, 6, 7. You would be surprise that those kind of girls can prepare you for the big leagues! Just have fun and when the HB9, and 10's appear you will be a seasoned hunter ready to give them a run for their money!

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No amount of game will take a woman from a celebrity.[/quote]


For the average PUA, it is okay to feel this way...but if you satisfy a girl's emotional and in a lesser degree erotic needs, you can give a celebrity a run for his money. When you learn to love a girl as she wants to be loved...she will leave money and fame to follow you to the end of the world. That is true game bro!

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Thanks for all the responses. Glad to see the brainwashing hasnt gone as far as I had thought.

Ya, most of the pro pua people say it cause they know more people will try it if they say looks dont matter.

But we all know women tend to walk right by an average looking guy, and stop dead in their tracks at a handsome one. I have personally witnessed this over and over again.

When a bunch of girls are out driving around, they will scream at a hot guy walking by, but they wont even notice an average one.

Not that they wont settle for average, but when competing against the real good looking guys in a public setting is hard.

The PUA folks are always saying "an ugly guy with game will do better than a good looking guy with no game"

WHO is saying the good looking guy has no game? why is it either or? ugly guys have game, handsome guys dont?

LOL it's alot of wishful thinking.

I think pua would be better served to admit their limitations, cause you have them, regardless of how much you believe!

And the other thing that annoys is the pua folks always say believe in yourself etc, and if you fail its never THERE fault, only YOUR self limiting beliefs, or your not doing something right.

Dudes, go out to a club where there are ots of people, its a fuckin jungle. If you think you have it down to a system, your wrong, plain and simple.

Learn and improve, but dont think if you are 5 foot three, 140 pounds that you can play linebacker in the NFL.

You Cant!


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No amount of game will take a woman from a celebrity.

For the average PUA, it is okay to feel this way...but if you satisfy a girl's emotional and in a lesser degree erotic needs, you can give a celebrity a run for his money. When you learn to love a girl as she wants to be loved...she will leave money and fame to follow you to the end of the world. That is true game bro![/quote]


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No amount of game will take a woman from a celebrity.

For the average PUA, it is okay to feel this way...but if you satisfy a girl's emotional and in a lesser degree erotic needs, you can give a celebrity a run for his money. When you learn to love a girl as she wants to be loved...she will leave money and fame to follow you to the end of the world. That is true game bro!
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Dude if a professional athlete, or Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt, or ANy well known celebrity walks into your set, you are toast.

Please be serious.


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I am 5'3", and I know that you will not get all the girls all the time. But as they say..when you know how to hunt, you will never go hungry. So far I am not hungry in that department, and of course a guy should be realistic...if you are not the type of guy that a particular girl wants then you don't have a chance. But you will be able to choose from other girls. Getting depressed because a particular girl is not into you is just acting like a guy without balls. Just keep going out and hunt...even the best hunter doesn't catch the prey he wants all the time!

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I am 5'3", and I know that you will not get all the girls all the time. But as they say..when you know how to hunt, you will never go hungry. So far I am not hungry in that department, and of course a guy should be realistic...if you are not the type of guy that a particular girl wants then you don't have a chance. But you will be able to choose from other girls. Getting depressed because a particular girl is not into you is just acting like a guy without balls. Just keep going out and hunt...even the best hunter doesn't catch the prey he wants all the time!
Now your changing your ideas. What you just wrote is exactly what Im saying you have to do.

You cant get the hb 10 unless you are an hb 9 or 10, rich, famous or have a powerful position.

I have seen MANY girls dating their bosses. I didnt understand it at all, but I do now.

She used him to get where she wanted to go.

Had she had her choice, it wouldnt be him.

But its not game. Its status.

You DO have to target girls who you can realistically get.


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I agree...but to maximize your potential...you should work on being the best you can be, by having an athletic body, dressing edgy and in general understanding female sexuality and emotional circuit! The more you are prepare the more cute girls you will be able to get. But no guy is attractive to all the girls, girls are like snow flakes...they have different ways in which they want to be loved! And I have game models, they will open up once you treat them as human beings and work them emotionally!

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I agree...but to maximize your potential...you should work on being the best you can be, by having an athletic body, dressing edgy and in general understanding female sexuality and emotional circuit! The more you are prepare the more cute girls you will be able to get. But no guy is attractive to all the girls, girls are like snow flakes...they have different ways in which they want to be loved! And I have game models, they will open up once you treat them as human beings and work them emotionally!
Well I agree in principle, but remember a 6 guy is going to feel attracted to a 6 girl. Thats already been proven.

So When a 6 guy is pulling 6's and telling other people this is how you pick up HB 10's his gauge is off. he thinks he's pulling 10's but they arent.

It's subjective but when a guy thinks a regular looking chick is a 10, and thinkis Halle Berre is a 10 also, obviously his system is flawed.


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what's the point of focusing on your friend?, you can still achieve a higher status then him, just have to work on yourself to improve your life, if you are always comparing yourself to him and feeling lesser then, that's the way it will always be, you could just overcome your short commings and find a way around the issue, looks play into your status compared to other men but they are not the end all be all, there is more to being important comparitively to other men from the female point of view then just how you look, although... yes it matters, so does everything else and you absolutely can overcome this viewing your friend as better then you is just a cop out, not that it will be easy to aquire more status and change your life and who you are on a deeper level, but it is still possible

jack nicholson claims to have slept with 2,000 women, gene simmons makes a lot of claims and has said it's could be about 4600 but thinks he is probably between 1000-2000 women, julio iglesias claimed 3,000, fidel castro 35,000, ron jeremy 4,000, lemmy from motorhead claims to have slept with 1,000

all of these guys are ugly, but they all have something in common, they all found a way to become infamous manwhores, and different guys on the list achieved their status in different ways
Not focucing on my friend, I hadnt seen him in 15 years. I said I had been focuing on myself, but in the real world, it doesnt matter, Looks trump all else. At least for one nighters.

for ltr obviously its more than looks.

I mentioned my friend to demoonstrate the point

And I think your famous person example is flawed. All those guys are RICH AND FAMOUS. Rich and Famous goes a long way.

No amount of game will take a woman from a celebrity.
well of course they're rich and famous... but they have something... THEY HAVE VALUE.

Girls will fuck guys that have value, whether or not you're rich or famous, as long as you have value.

What value can you offer to girls that will set you apart from the rest?


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Oh and girls scream at me in their cars when I'm walking... I must be very good looking


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what's the point of focusing on your friend?, you can still achieve a higher status then him, just have to work on yourself to improve your life, if you are always comparing yourself to him and feeling lesser then, that's the way it will always be, you could just overcome your short commings and find a way around the issue, looks play into your status compared to other men but they are not the end all be all, there is more to being important comparitively to other men from the female point of view then just how you look, although... yes it matters, so does everything else and you absolutely can overcome this viewing your friend as better then you is just a cop out, not that it will be easy to aquire more status and change your life and who you are on a deeper level, but it is still possible

jack nicholson claims to have slept with 2,000 women, gene simmons makes a lot of claims and has said it's could be about 4600 but thinks he is probably between 1000-2000 women, julio iglesias claimed 3,000, fidel castro 35,000, ron jeremy 4,000, lemmy from motorhead claims to have slept with 1,000

all of these guys are ugly, but they all have something in common, they all found a way to become infamous manwhores, and different guys on the list achieved their status in different ways
Not focucing on my friend, I hadnt seen him in 15 years. I said I had been focuing on myself, but in the real world, it doesnt matter, Looks trump all else. At least for one nighters.

for ltr obviously its more than looks.

I mentioned my friend to demoonstrate the point

And I think your famous person example is flawed. All those guys are RICH AND FAMOUS. Rich and Famous goes a long way.

No amount of game will take a woman from a celebrity.
well of course they're rich and famous... but they have something... THEY HAVE VALUE.

Girls will fuck guys that have value, whether or not you're rich or famous, as long as you have value.

What value can you offer to girls that will set you apart from the rest?
So tell me what value you have? the ability to neg?

Yes the wealthy and rich have value, thats the value that counts, unfortunately.


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Oh and girls scream at me in their cars when I'm walking... I must be very good looking
Those are screams of agony. Either that or they are screaming that they cant find a toilet.


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Not focucing on my friend, I hadnt seen him in 15 years. I said I had been focuing on myself, but in the real world, it doesnt matter, Looks trump all else. At least for one nighters.
that was more under the context of don't focus on not being good enough rather then ignore your friend all together

really though it's not looks that trump all else, importance trumps all else and it is what women are attracted to, among a giant group of average joe nobodies, the best looking guy is immediately the most important out of the group because that's the only comparison of value women have to go on, he will get all the attention and unless someone demonstrates some sort indication of value then it will stay that way, but physically you don't have to be perfect, just fuckable

women value more then just looks, in general, looks, confidence, money, personality, commonalities, social status, access to security social/physical, power etc. they all matter, who you are is more important then what you look like
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And I think your famous person example is flawed. All those guys are RICH AND FAMOUS. Rich and Famous goes a long way.

No amount of game will take a woman from a celebrity.
the thing is, how did those guys become famous in the first place? it wasn't just some magic fairy that randomly appeared and said, ''you know what, you're now a famous movie star, and you... you're now a famous musician, and finally you... you're now the dictator of cuba, FUCKING TAADAAA!! and so it was

they all achieved that status as a result of their own skills and efforts

the way you are echos through your life, you are what you make yourself out to be, and you are responsible for your own life and the direction it goes in, game is not just an e-book explaining a neg, game is your game plan to reach success, and the way you step to life is the same way you will step to women, confidence is attractive to women because it's a precursor to future success and goes hand in hand with competence, guys that are ambitious and motivated and confident and have a high self esteem that are smart and have competence in what they do excel in life, they go after what they want and reach a higher status then other people because of how well they excel at what they do and how they do it, and that is how status works

and no your value is not in a neg, but a person with status just can effortlessly neg naturally and it is genuine, the rich man that tells the poor man, don't worry I see great things in you, you'll make your first hundred thousand yet, I can help you through it, it took me years to make my first million it can be tough

the basketball star who tells the farm team rookie if he works on his jump shot it will be supreme, maybe even get him into the nba with time and practice he could make the team

the famous musician that talks to some kids starting in a band and says just keep working harder guys, you'll have a band like ours in no time, you're really good

^ these are the real negs, there has to be real VALUE behind the person who uses them, real STATUS for them to mean anything, you need to become good at something and excel better then others, women are attracted to men who are better then other men, looks do they help? yes, are they everything? that ultimately depends on the girl and what she values, if some guy who is infamous or famous walks in a room, chances are he's getting the attention, not your good looking buddy, among two guys who no preconceived value what else do girls have to base who they give their attention to besides how you look, rent a lambo one night and go out with him, roll up highly visible wearing a good suit, see what sort of attention you get then if attention is all you want to realize you are enough, you're already good enough dude, just have to learn to love yourself and be ok in your skin, you won't get every girl cause every girl will subjectively value something from the next, but you can always improve and you can always reach a new height of status and improve your life, and just maybe one day you won't care about who's better between you and your buddy and you will both just get laid and it will be sick


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midlife_crysus it sounds to me like you're looking for reasons to fail at PUA, having good game can make a huge difference to a guys success but it seems like you don't want to believe it, by believing that looks and fame (things out of your control) are the most important things you're giving yourself an excuse not to better yourself and not to try. Many people think "you either got it or you haven't got it" they use this belief in many areas of their lives.

It's fair to say some things come easier to some of us than others, but this doesn't mean you can't get what you want, it just means you gotta work harder for it.

These quotes you hear like "looks don't matter" you're taking them in the wrong way, too literary, have you ever seen the pick up artist TV show, the first thing that mystery does is give the guys a make over, that's because he's saying that looks matter. Looks make it easier to get attraction.

I like the quote "you can achieve anything if you put your mind to it" but that is not true is it, because we have limits, I could never control the weather no matter how hard I worked at it, a bit of common sense is needed with these things.

Plus women will not always go after the best looking guy, a good looking guy with low social skills will struggle with women.

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