Hey guys,

quick overview:

Girl: extremely cute, but hasn't really seen anyone at all , even through her college years. I know the reason for this is because she rejects guys left and right. (VIRGIN? most def )

ME: I'm confident, attractive, good with laughs and talking - so i'm a lil confused as to why she is rejecting me


She is a friend of a friend and we have a lot of mutual friends. I met her here and there and talked for a bit, but it wasn't untill recently that I got her number and started initiating via text. Our entire texting thread is below: would like some critiques!

ME: Hey cutieface i got a question for ya
HER: ?
ME: who would win in a contest between a rabbit and a smurf ( saw this on here, thought it was smart, wanted to guage her response, boring/creative/imaginative?)
HER: what the heck? haha
ME: use your imagination
HER: smurf

few days pass..

ME: taking bailey to the dogpark next week, you should come
HER: KK
ME: when you free
HER: IDK have to babysit
ME: bring the kid , it can play with bailey
HER: Hahaha, they aren't good arnd big dogs

few days pass...
ME: tomorrow, best weather of the month, meet at the park
HER: I can't, got plans

two scenarios:
Look, if she really has plans cool, how do i proceed?
Obviously, she doesnt have plans, but I want to wittily call her out on rejecting fun guys in order to get her to date me, how do i proceed?

Is that the extent of your texting? How much real life conversation have you had with her? Has it always just been small talk? It seems to me that you're just texting every few days to ask her out and thats it. Dont call her out, she'll most likely get annoyed. Try building some rapport, Try to get her into some deep conversation through text without ever mentioning going on dates. Talk about family, friends, whatever interests her and try to "mirror" her emotions on the subjects. Keep it mostly serious but throw in some witty observations every now and then. This sounds like a girl that is gonna take some time to really open up and get comfortable, so dont rush it. Hounding her to go on dates will most likely drive her away.

I agree with MaxPower on what he said and I will add a couple things;

Keep in mind this is hindsight based on what you already have done. I don't think it's that bad but I don't know the face to face interaction like you b/c i wasn't there. Most girls don't want to hear about your dog. A lot of them have been raised in dating theories that say stay away from guys who bring their dog in to conversation too early. Some of them don't like dogs b/c they are either scared of them, or b/c dogs are dirty, or b/c they think you are trying too hard, or b/c they think the dog might be your only true friend.

The "who would win a contest, a smurf or rabbit" is not ideal for all situations. Some girls will read that and think you are weird b/c it doesn't make sense. Whoever recommended it did so for a situation they were in and it maybe worked for them. I also would not open a text by referencing her appearance such as "cutieface".

It seems like the likelihood she is interested in you is about 5 percent. I would try to proceed based on a couple totally different tactics; Just b/c you think you are hot enough to get with her, your looks or personality don't mean shit to her.

^this. You think you're "different" from the rest because your hot, confident, whatever. But to her that just means you're the same as the rest.

ok, so i think your text game could use a little work. youre on the right track, but it needs some finetuning.

first of all, cutieface is a dumb nickname. unless this is call back humor, stop it. something like dork or brat is better. but if you do this make sure you do it playfully. and dont force it. if shes not a bit of a brat or a little dorky, it probably wont fit as well. find something that does work and use it occasionally (i.e., dont ruin it by being predictable and using it every time).

also, and not to take texts about rabbits and smurfs too literally, but what does that even mean? it doesnt make any sense. is it a race? wrestling match? lego building contest? also, the "use your imagination" is pretty lame. she has no idea what youre talking about and youre trying to make her do the all the work in this conversation. you didnt explain it so no wonder why she randomly just said smurf. youre tying to come across as fun, intersting guy, but youre probably just coming across as weird. there almost zero chance of getting her to meet up with you based on this.

so here is an example that i just completely made up that is similar but much better:

ME: Hey brattypants, i got a very serious question for ya
HER: ?
ME: who would win in a boxing match? a team of 3 smurfs or a kangaroo?
HER: what the heck? haha
ME: my friend kelly says the kangaroo, but i think its clearly the smurfs cuz they could surround the kangaroo from all sides plus theres 3 of them against only 1 kangaroo. so whos right?
HER: haha i think i agree with kelly
ME: lol you women always stick together! the man is always wrong, amirite?
HER: usually lol
ME: heh fair enough. so anyway...[TRANSITION]


also, as others have said, is there more conversation that just what youve posted here? cuz if shes constantly rejecting tons of guys and if you cant set yourself apart and just ask her out all the time with no comfort/attraction building mixed in, then youre not going to have a chance either.

What the hell did I just read

Unless your 14, this is all very, very lame.

the conversation itself may be "very, very lame" but the principals behind it are essential to understand. these are the types of fun/random conversations you should be having with girls. these are the types of things that separate you from other guys and make her wanna respond to you and get to know you better. you need to appeal to her emotional side.

also, i totally disagree with this.

be fun, say random shit, play a game of truth or dare, whatever. but trying to get all deep and serious via text message is not the way to build attraction with her. youre probably much more likely to get LJBF'd or end up as the text buddy if you do that.

Looks for other girls and don't get this get to you. Also, when you have other options that gives you the confidence to be witty and none needy. That will be attractive to any girl!

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Ok, ok stop this canned shit! start having a real convo with her, at the moment she is probably thinking "wtf is this guy talking about"

When I get a girls number I simply send out a text like "Hey it was fun meeting you tonight, you seem really cool...hopefully I'm right lol get home safe"

Wait a couple days and then ask a simple question. Texts are shit for the most part unless you have built a lot of attraction when you were face to face. Its better to keep it to a minimum and set up either a date, or a hang out where you can show your real personality.

Texting is a great way to build comfort so that when you do meet up she will not have her guard up. But its also a great way to shoot your self in the foot because there is no emotion in a text, if she doesn't know you well and you say something off the wall, or make a joke it could make you look like a massive tool! lol or give her the wrong impression.

Yea, I would just talk to her like she's a friend. No "cutieface" bullshit or goofy flirty games. Just talk to her like she's one of the guys, but maybe tone it down a little since she's a girl. You need to build a shit-ton of rapport with this girl and disqualify yourself as a suitor before you attempt to move in for the kill.

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