So I've thought I'd try my hand online practice at trying to build attraction, and to get use to feeling nervous talking to someone that I like.
This was actually good as I could look back at what I said and analyse it. From a novice perspective I'm sure it went flat in the middle where it became just normal conversation, and she became disinterested. This is happening a lot at the moment with a few of my sets and I'm unaware in how to shift change to increase attraction.







wi11ow1312/17/2012 8:16:03 PM
Question: in that one pick how much ice skating did you do on that day? (Opener)


Notideal12/17/2012 8:16:43 PM
Loads! That was an action shot obvs


wi11ow1312/17/2012 8:22:14 PM
I should've known it was. Clearly you had just executed windmilling arm with sway followed by a text book bar grab .
Where was that too?
(Cheeky neg)

Notideal12/17/2012 8:24:06 PM
Lmao that's exactly what it was! Are you a professional too?
Cardiff winter wonderland! You not been yet?


wi11ow1312/17/2012 8:33:00 PM
I am as professional as you, but try to be more a team player and use other ice skaters to stop my momentum .
I've never been to cardiff winter wonderland, what was it like?

Notideal12/17/2012 8:34:59 PM
It's lush! If you like christmas! Do you like crimbo? I've read your profile and I must admit its very impressive!


wi11ow1312/17/2012 8:44:42 PM
The only person I know who hates Christmas is 6ft tall, green and goes by the name Mr G. Rinch. I love crimbo, especially being an uncle.
Well thank you, your a nice person . What do you see as impressive?

Notideal12/17/2012 8:50:47 PM
All your likes, interests, hobbies! It's impressive because I like that stuff too! But I want to cycle Vietnam not France
I'm not an anything (Aunty) but I super love crimbo!

(A DHV story should of been inserted here I think)

wi11ow1312/17/2012 9:02:46 PM
Its very cool to come across a girl who likes a bit of adventure and fun in mother natures back yard....Total respect . I'll have to invite you to come with me and friends
Another thought Isn't Vietnams roads like ultra bumpy though lol, get the padded shorts out. How come there?


Notideal12/17/2012 9:11:18 PM
I watched it on top gear! I so want to go!
Do you like Hollyoaks?


wi11ow1312/17/2012 9:15:11 PM
I'm very rarely impressed by a girls tv program's but top gear...thumbs up, hollyoaks.....hovering maybe hand lol. I use to watch it, and actually bumped into to steed in Ibiza 2years ago. The guy is tiny.

wi11ow1312/17/2012 9:16:14 PM
Actually considering the current plot line, I don't think that's appropriate lol, I mean he is pretty short in real life.

Notideal12/17/2012 9:16:41 PM
I've got it on catch up now! I only watch the omnibus but I do love it! Lmao! Didn't even link the two but LOL


wi11ow1312/17/2012 9:24:32 PM
I use to always watch the omnibus on a sunday morning, but I missed a months worth when I was away and came back with clarity of mind not to watch it hahaha.
Apart from going to winter wonderland what else super crimbo will you be doing over the festivities?

Notideal12/17/2012 9:27:48 PM
I have an 'end of the world' party this Friday! Then Cardiff Sunday! Then crimbo day onwards I have no idea!
Off climbing tomorrow, and no I ain't any good but I will keep trying


Notideal12/17/2012 9:28:03 PM
What about you?


wi11ow1312/17/2012 9:36:51 PM
Double header this weekend is it, ooh that's going to be tough. Don't set your alarm Monday morning then .
End of the world party, I like that very quirky. No pressure but your party will have a lot to live up to.

wi11ow1312/17/2012 9:42:26 PM
I'm out Friday to Caldicot, but might have Saturday and Sunday chill time before crimbo. As I still got presents to get.....not good. Are you finished.....I'm sure you have.

Notideal12/17/2012 9:46:29 PM
Nah off from Friday so good times ahead party should be fun, can't wait! What's in caldicot? I still haven't got all my pressies yet


Notideal12/17/2012 9:49:24 PM
Have you been on here long?


wi11ow1312/17/2012 9:55:30 PM
Im very suprised that you havent got all your pressies. Why have you been that busy? Be careful as you might be left getting go outdoors vouchers.
Why would you want time off from being a winner?

wi11ow1312/17/2012 9:59:08 PM
My profiles been on here since the start of the year, but haven't got into it, rather be out than on a computor. Actually this is the first time I've been on here for 5months. What about yourself? What's your name by the way

Notideal12/17/2012 10:00:16 PM
I'll be fine I know what I'm getting! I don't take time off from being a winner! That's a life style lol


Notideal12/17/2012 10:07:22 PM
I'm morgana! And you are? I've been on here a while but always have a gander now and again

wi11ow1312/17/2012 10:09:10 PM
Bravo Good answer.
If we were playing tennis you would've back hand smashed me down the court with that one.
So is there anyone else who comes even close to your winner lifestyle?


wi11ow1312/17/2012 10:17:22 PM
Morgana that's a very nice name. That's a definite welshy name isn't it. Are you named after a family member, because that is unique I haven't heard many of them before. Are you any good at climbing, or would you rather not say lol.

Notideal12/17/2012 10:30:15 PM
I knew you would ask that so already answered it! I'm still learning.
Not named after a family member just a witch from the King Arthur days lol
And you didn't tell me your name! I asked you that too!!keep up lol


wi11ow1312/17/2012 10:37:31 PM
Haha ok cheeky, I was just testing you.
And I wasn't answering all your questions as I wanted to keep some mystery.....even though I have a huge written profile.
My names craig by the way, and I too am from Torfaen.

wi11ow1312/17/2012 10:41:54 PM
Morgana was a witch from King Arthur, didn't realise that. Is that a claim to fame?

Notideal12/17/2012 10:45:41 PM
Are you from griff by any chance?
Yeah totes the best witch ever lol

wi11ow1312/17/2012 10:52:57 PM
Yes I am, why you doing some scotland yard research gathering on facebook a you lol. Clever Trevor.

Notideal12/17/2012 10:56:47 PM
No I recognise you! I'm off to bed now tho so will pick this back up tomorrow night


wi11ow1312/17/2012 11:01:06 PM
I would be more surprised if you didn't. How about we continue this over mobile phone txt instead?

Notideal12/17/2012 11:02:17 PM
Ok but tomorrow


wi11ow1312/17/2012 11:05:23 PM
Ok cool, have a nice night and will catch up with you tomorrow



Even though the number wasn't given, I was happy to try the number close which was out of my comfort zone. Guys where do you think were the key errors in the conversation, I highlighted where I thought needed a DHV to shift change and continue escalating arousal. The opener had worked very well as her profile picture was her ice skating, the talk was good but eventually the excitement in the conversation ended up going flat.
This happens a lot in my game so I've been trying to identify why.
Any help would be very appreciated thanks fellas.

Don't forget what your main objective is when you are online. You don't want to end up as "emaiil pals" with the girls you are talking to. If your goal is to actually meet up with these women as soon as possible, then I suggest you try to ask for the phone number a lot sooner. You can save all the other stuff you want to say for when you meet up in person.

Cheers dude yeah your right, nobody really is on there to make friends.....that's friends reunited .
But you gave a valid point about asking for number sooner, I should've teased her into giving me her number for the disclosure of my name.
Would you have done anything different and where would you have asked for her number to in the script, as its interesting from another persons perspective.

Let me give you an example of an approach you can try.

Let's say you see a girl's profile that you like. Pick something interesting about her profile and send her a message about that. In fact, you can use what you found interesting about her as the subject line for the message you send her.

If she sends you a message back and she sounds interesting, you could ask her for her phone number then and there. There are no hard and fast rules here, but try and ask for her number within the first 2 to 4 messages you send to her.

Don't forget that she may be getting tons of other messages from other guys, expecially if she is very attractive. So you want to ask for the phone number reasonably quickly.

Cheers, I will try that and let you know how I get on