In physiology its common knowledge that ‘Bad Boys’ attract the most women. So why don’t PUA companies teach you how to be this character?

It just seems that the whole concept is to sugar coating the whole attraction process with cheesy, low value openers etc, that demonstrate exactly the opposite of what they should, showing you care, don’t demonstrate any anti-social behavior, risk etc… Why?

A friend of mine went out on Saturday night, he never approaches indirectly or directly, the women come to him. He went over to a table to put a drink down, there were about 4 HB 10s there and 1 guy. He accidently spilt the drink over her, and she said what the fuck are you doing, his response shut up you stupid bitch. The guy from the group challenged him, saying what you doing talking to her like that. He told him, come out side I will knock you out, you dick. Then my friend left alone and went to the bar. Strangely the girl who’s drink was spilt over approached him, bought a drink for him… at this point he started feelings her ass, two minutes later they were snogging and he has his hand up her skirt… she asked him should we go dance floor, his response, no fucking way, cant be arsed, you go.. she leaves with her friends to the dance floor. 30 minutes later he goes downstairs walks up to her, starts feeling her up and down, snogging, shes feeling his dick at this point in front of her friends on the dancefloor, he then takes her hand and leads her out of the club, takes her home, fucks her, and kicks her out at 4am. Where’s the game here? Doesnt sound like Lovesystems, PUA Training, David DeAngelio? and the guy pulls everynight

you are full of shit

Had that story been true, it illustrates why that method isn't taught. Can you imagine a pickup system where step 3 is "Spill drink on woman you call bitch" and step 4 is "Threaten to assualt men at bar"?

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Why would I make that up. How stupid. I am coming at this from the point of view of understanding why friend has success when all the guys I meet from local forums neg, tease, push/pull, cock-funny/etc etc and they religiously dont go home with anyone.. i want to learn..

Women don't like "bad boys" they like value and confidence. Unforchantly most "assholes" you see in the club come off as confident and high value to women, yet are very low value and insecure...works for one night stands but rarely will it lead to anything more. It also rarely works with high value, intelligent women who like being treated well, it might cut it with an hb 9 with low a low iq, but any women with substance over the age of 25 would laugh in your face if your talked to he like that.

I would never call a women a bitch or anything of the sort and I have no problem getting hb 8's, 9's and 10's. What you do need to do is demand respect by using tonality, calling a women out on her shit and speaking your mind in a respectful manner.

Value is easy...build an attractive life, have a passion, you don't need to be rich you just need to have passion for what you do, and surround your self with other high value people.

This does work, especially on certain women. I know that your not making this up.

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The OP needs to understand PUA quality material better, nothing you said here contradicts what the better PUA teachers say. You are basically saying "I want to beat someone up but PUA teachers just talk about kickboxing, boxing and Jiu-Jitsu and never wrestling, I know a wrestler who beats guys up all the time, these teachers are bullshit!!!" Get educated

It doesn't work...there is no one way, its all about being congruent in your behaviour and being high value. If your only being an asshole because you think this is what women want then I hate to be the barer of bad news but you will fail miserably with women!

You need to be your self and be congruent.

Who gets more women?

1# The guy who works an average job and on the weekends acts like he's a bad ass even though hes not

or

2# The passionate artist, who listens to classical music, likes poetry, and thrives in his career

If you said 2#, 9 times out of 10 you are correct...

If your a bad ass who is passionate about tattoo, drinking beer, and doing lines of coke in the bathroom stall, by all means be a bad ass! but don't try to be something you are not.

Look at most successful pickup artists and they are not "mocho" guys, in fact most would be considered feminine in most social circles. But what do they all have in common? value, and congruence.

Why does your friend pick up so many girls by being an asshole? because in all honesty he probably really is an asshole lol he is just being him self.

Pretty much exactly right.

So called bad boys are often insecure little boys underneath the bluff and bluster.

What they don't do is put women on a pedestal, which is right. But you can do that without all the other nasty crap (of which it sounds like your mate is a shining example).

I argued this in this post here, by the way. Chateau Heartiste had found "scientific" evidence women prefer "bad boys".

http://www.authenticpua.com/dating-arti ... -bad-boys/

Afraid to say your mate sounds like a bit of a tool. He doesn't sound centered, balanced, grounded or happy. His behaviour smacks of insecurity.

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I lost my virginity to a girl whose boyfriend i beat up, some women get off on that kind of shit.

Thank you guys for your responses.

I think the first person to respond got the wrong end of the stick.

I actually find it quite frustrating to see my friend act like this and get success specially with a HB10 whos just turned 18.

But like you said its probably because he actively knocks women off their pedestal verbally. Demonstrating that she has no power of him because of her beauty. Every other guys is sucking up to her and complimenting and he stands out due to his disinterest.

It's also probably the fact that he has a confident approach, body language and tone.

An after thought!!!! Do you think being an arsehole is more or less successfull depending on the city you are in... I live in Manchester... The girls seem to be around guys in trackies, wearing nike, and with skinheads nearly all the time.. You dont see fashionable well groomed men pulling anything about a HB5 in clubs... In Cheshire are neighbour its slightly different because it an affluent area, girls go for the more fashionable type of guy...