this is a long story so ill try to only put whats important.

i havent been in love in the last 5.5 years till now... the story starts with me working with this girl that i was lusting after. i wouldnt hit on a coworker. i waited. this guy got hired that nobody liked including her. they go home together one night and eventualy turn into a couple. i try getting her to go to the park with me cause i want to romantically tell her how i feel (by this time i want her badly(1 year later)) but she says im creepy. now they have been together almost 3 months and he is her and her sis's roommates. i regroup and come back and now she texts me when i dont even ask, said one day my eyes are bluer than normal, i smell good. i tell her how her smile makes me happy and shes beautiful ect. she seems fine with everything i say about how much i want to be with her and even when her guy gets mad she texts me still. tonight we talked about how her *** is distracting and she laughed and mentioned how i must look at it a lot.

so obviously im making good headway but idk what to do now. i want to be with her so badly. shes all i can think about literally 24/7. ive always read u have to be her best friend and be whatever he isnt and make her see that but idk what to do... what are your guys opinions and can u plz offer me help. maybe i ask her how she feels? keep in mind most of this is texts as she does college, work, and training for soccer and has little time. im going insane guys.

Being in love with someone who you have never been in a relationship with = stalker

What you need to do is start gaming her the same way you would any other chick. That being said, you don't go telling her how much you like her and how hot you think she is. You simply continue building rapport and attraction and try to seduce her with kino, NLP, etc.

You want to try to close her, whether it's a k-close, n-close, or whatever, that way you know she is DTF. It's your way of testing her to see if she is just a cock tease or if she is worthy of putting more time into. Don't get played by this girl, regardless of how much you think you like/love her.

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thsi guy has no respect of mine. if he were to die the most horrid terrifying death imaginable. it would put a smile on my face all day.

i know im letting jealousy get the better of me. its so fucking hard for me to control though. oh and now shes not coming over to build my xmas tree with me cause he doesnt like me calling her beautiful. this fagget fucked up my kino so now i can only see her at work.

i know shes playing with me. and yyes he did a lot of shit to me. he was a dick to my friiend, he never paid me back $30, he went after her knowing full well how much i liked her, the list goes on, hes a piece of shit.

Chill out bro!!

"He went after her even though he knew I liked her"! What are you? 12 years old?? He may be an ass about many things but he's obviously doing something right with her and your doing something wrong!

I can tell you from personal experience that you will never get with this girl. She will flirt and string you along to the end of time and she will always deny that she's doing anything wrong.

Think logically...

Would you really want to be in a relationship with a girl that practices such a disgusting behaviour? Once you take a step back and view her subjectively you will realise that it ain't the sun that is shining out of her ass....it's actually shit!

No one wants to date a poo

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Yeah man . . . But PUA Ninja man . . . I mean, when you're really in love with someone, all this advice doesn't help. I mean even I become totally absorbed by the girl once I fall in love. I was having three girlfriends at the time and dividing my energy between them and the girl I truly loved still was like: "Meh you go a hundred miles an hour in this."

So man, I don't think any advice helps. Just trust your intuition. However experience teaches that if you truly fall in love with a girl, you are bound to lose her. Your nature primes you to seek intimacy in every whisper you breathe and we live in a postmodern time where girls can't handle attachment and commitment.

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After reading all of this thread I can conclude that the first priority in this complete scenario should obviously be to get the 30 $ back.

first good advice i've read. i let my emotions beat me in this and honestly im done with her. thank you all for what little advice you gave. luckily i found a freaky 19 yo just waiting for me. laterz yall.

It is important to note, have you been in the game 5.5 years?

You are committing many of the classic beta-male sins that will ultimately drive girls away.

1st: Why wouldn't you hit on a coworker? If you attracted, act upon it, and never apologise for it. Don't let it stew up inside you. No point waiting, as exactly what you described usually happens, the girl becomes involved with another man while you are left hanging on the sidelines.

2nd: This guy that nobody liked? He was probably the classic asshole who chased what he wanted without second thought, and tickled her primal attraction triggers. I'll venture a guess and say he never worked to appease anyone but himself?

3rd: I could not think of anything worse than you taking her to a romantic lookout point and professing your love while she is romantically involved with the asshole. Judging by your situation and total lack of intimacy from her side, this can only ending in automatic crippling friendzoning at best, and a shattered heart on your behalf. Take the lead with a woman, but be elusive and mysterious concerning your feelings for her, cat-string theory.

4th: She is throwing fake IOIs. Unless she has stated/strongly hinted she has similar feelings for you, do not take this as gospel truth.

5th: Brutal truth, you are not making good headway. If you were making good headway, it would be you taking her to bed every night. You have been cast into the friendzone, and are lusting over her as if she is on a cloud-high pedestal.

6th: Quite poor advice in my opinion, if you become her best friend with intentions on being romantic, that's all you will be, best friends. By now you should have deduced whether she feels the same way, in which unless she has outwardly stated, she does not. The move? Give up on this girl, and move on. Break contact and perhaps revisit when she is single and you are more experienced, but go out and game other girls, healthy for the soul.

-SilverTonguedFox