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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:08 pm 
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any1 ever thought about an exit strategy ?

might be helpfull for people starting up to be able to leave a group they just opened if things dont go well or just end up in an awkward silence


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 Post subject: Re: EXIT strategy
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:29 pm 
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In general my exit stratgey should I wish to leave a set thats not going well, is to say something like "nice talking to you" then turn around and leave. Or more often then that, to just turn and walk away without saying anything... it's that simple.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:15 am 
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I probably used to care about that awkward thing, but once you become successful with women, you stop giving a fuck. This not giving a fuck means your not going to feel awkward, which is probably why the doctor, along with any other successful PUA, would really just not care about that moment.

They're one set. They simply don't matter and once you get good, that moment will have been forgotten by the time you walk away. So i'm not dismissing your question, i just want you to realize that if a set doesn't go well or they feel awkward, it doesn't matter, and you shouldn't be worrying about what to say.

Also, idk if your asking this because this happened to you or if your just asking it out of the feeling this could happen. If your asking for the first reason, as stated earlier, stop giving a fuck. If your asking for the second reason, your going to want to get that mindset out of your head, and stop focusing on the outcome of something that hasn't even happened yet.


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 Post subject: Re: EXIT strategy
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:13 pm 
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The standard pua line is "It was a pleasure meeting you." Then bail.

I've used "I'm going to go socialize a little more, I'll talk to you later."

If the set starts ignoring me, which sometimes happens, I'll pull out my phone and start pecking into it and then just kind of walk away while looking at my phone.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:25 pm 
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THE DOCTOR 's "nice talking to you is nice"
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puaninja's "It was a pleasure meeting you."

but just turning around and leaving feels bad since i am probably gona meet the people some other time since there are just a few bars around here.

also not thinking about that might help i guess


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don't be afraid to just turn around and leave without a word, girls will do it to you

when you start going out much worse things will happen to you in nightclubs, not so much in the day and bars.

Value yourself, if someone is rude, nasty, the girls aren't reponsive, the set is going nowhere etc. just leave


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This is a little counterproductive imo. I mean what's next? Six quick tips for how to talk yourself out of opening a set?

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Just make up any old bs, or say nothing at all and walk off.

Although sometime's if its clear I've lost the set I just stay in it anyway to see what happens. All experience is useful.

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I found that staying in set as long as you can, to the point, where they either say to you to actually leave, or just leave themselves trains your social pressure so well (stand-off), so I wouldn't recommend any specific strategy.

Just value your time, and be genuine - there's no need for strategy. If you feel that they didn't give enough and just ignored you, you should respond the same and just walk away.

If they were polite, but weren't interested at a time, be polite as well and use one of the lines used before, just in case, if you run in set after some time has passed.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:42 am 
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I found that staying in set as long as you can, to the point, where they either say to you to actually leave, or just leave themselves trains your social pressure so well (stand-off), so I wouldn't recommend any specific strategy.

Just value your time, and be genuine - there's no need for strategy. If you feel that they didn't give enough and just ignored you, you should respond the same and just walk away.

If they were polite, but weren't interested at a time, be polite as well and use one of the lines used before, just in case, if you run in set after some time has passed.

Exactly. You need to perform under pressure and if you're getting too nervous while you're actually talking to a set, you've taken yourself out of training mode and started to put yourself in an emotional/self conscious mode. Obviously you need to take cues and it's better if you leave on your own terms, but just use one of the aforementioned lines and deliver it with a genuine smile and a slight nod of your head. Don't grin and bob your head like Monica Lewinsky, just give a good smile and a nod of acknowledgement.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:06 am 
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The standard pua line is "It was a pleasure meeting you." Then bail.

I've used "I'm going to go socialize a little more, I'll talk to you later."

If the set starts ignoring me, which sometimes happens, I'll pull out my phone and start pecking into it and then just kind of walk away while looking at my phone.

Yep this is what I do. Or you can just answer your phone like somebody is calling and act like you gotta go or something.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:20 am 
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- wow... that was awkward... so I'm gonna bail.

- nice talking to you girls. see ya

- sooooooooo... i think this is it .


if the girls are running away from me (in club..this happens alot to me... cause I go for the bitter end... make things more awkward... to amuse myself)

- I love you. dont leave me !

- have dare you leave me... COME BAAAACK (funny way)

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 Post subject: Re: EXIT strategy
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You need to realize that you are basically just a vagrant asking them for money at that point, at least as far as how much they care about you. Would you care what a bum says after you tell him you can't spare a dollar? No, you just want him to go away. A bad set doesn't care what you say or do, they just don't want to deal with you anymore.

It's good form to leave with class, and it makes you look good should anyone else of pertinence be in proximity. If you try to make it more awkward, the set won't care and you'll just be making it harder on yourself. Plus, when you leave on a good note you can always attempt to reopen them later as long as you didn't go out the first time talking shit.

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A lot of BAD SETS will turn GOOD if you just re-open them later. Say you talk to a couple of girls in the club at 11 PM.. They might not be into talking to you at that point for whatever reason. But 2 hours later, after they're in a great positive state from dancing (and maybe some drinks), THEY'D LOVE TO TALK TO THAT GUY THEY CHATTED TO EARLIER.

Please remember, girls don't care as much about the past and future - they care about NOW. So just because things didn't go well before doesn't mean they can't go well NOW.

DON'T GIVE UP ON YOUR SETS. Open.. Ride the set out for as long as you can, then walk away when you know you got as far as you could AT THAT POINT... Come back later and BAM, you may very well be in.

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oh shit... GeorgePH, puaninja you guys pointed out my sticking point...
now I realize thats fucking true and yesterday I had my worst day ever... but
I went for the bitter end... and I survived... but no success at all, except inner game i guess ?

I got blown out so much and I was in my head... but I opened, stayed, pushed things. but no success
not even good reactions... haha its hurt but I'm alive.

tnx guys... today I wont go for bitter end. I'll do what you guys told.

open>bad>open othergirls>reopen.

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