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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:25 am 
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Disclaimer: this is first post here on the forums - I've frequented them for the last few years, but have never had a reason to join up until now (I haven't felt my advice would be what people are looking for, and haven't had any issues I haven't been able to self-resolve; though I do now.)

I'll try to make this as short and sweet as possible.

I rarely have issues with girls when it comes to closing, locking down dates, or keeping them around for date 2+; my game is solid, probably more from natural instinct than anything else, but I also have an internet's worth of PUA knowledge in my head due to my extensive reading...

...Though for the first time since I've been in High School I've run into a stumper.
I am a Semi-Professional Poker player (I don't live/play in Vegas, I live/play in the midwest). 3 nights a week I play poker at a local casino; it's a nice upscale place. There is a cocktail waitress at this casino that I've been having some trouble with. I actually didn't even notice her until just recently; Since I treat cards as a job I rarely avert my attention from the game, therefore all periphery objects are greyscale to me. I noticed her when a fellow player asked her how old she was (25, same as me). I immediately noticed how attractive she was. I would say HB9, but I have a "no 10" rule, as I never hand out anything higher than a 9. I've chatted with her several times, but only extremely briefly; only in passing. She has several quirks that set her apart, things most guys aren't going to notice, but are obvious to a trained PUA eye; these things I've been able to bring up, and she's gone from neutral to responsive over the last few weeks.

The issue is this: As a cocktail waitress she has rules to follow, she cannot sit and chat with patrons for extend periods of time, not really enough time for much more than 4-5 comments, and gone; The girls that work at this specific casino have what I like to call a "guild", collectively they almost 100% of the time refuse to spend time with any patrons that they don't already know (fortunately I've known several of these girls for years so I spend time with many of them in spite of their little rulebook); This specific waitress is not close friends with any of the girls I know that work here so there is no opportunity to ask for the help of any of my waitress friends.

Here's what I know: She's pretty dedicated to the job, though she professed to me she doesn't really like it. I'm about 90% positive she doesn't have a BF. She's quiet, rarely speaks while most of the waitress are chatterboxes. She speed walks everywhere.

I can't seem to slow her down long enough to feel comfortable closing her. If we happen to be passing each other she always throws on a smile and gives "that look", she doesn't do this for everyone, so I know what little I've been able to do so far has been effective. I'm def. not afraid of her turning me down, that's just part of the whole game, but I simply can't bring myself to close her because I feel there has been so little rapport built.

Recently, she stopped me and asked if I was "playing poker tonight", which I thought was odd since I only play poker. I just felt like she had nothing to say so she said the only thing she could spit out to stop me and get me to talk to her.

I'm back at the Casino Tuesday so if there are no replies by then I'll probably just "roll the dice" ( < see what I did there, lol). I'd really like to hear what people have to say though.

I appreciate it guys.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:21 pm 
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PlaY it the same way you do with poker. Cool, calm, collected. You gotta take in the house. Start with a few negs/backhanded compliments. A few teases too so she can feel a need to prove herself to you. From what it sounds like she's a stuck up cocktail girl. This way you let her know that there is a new hotshot in the casino. Btw I'm in the Midwest also from Chicago. Get at me with those poker skills ;)


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PlaY it the same way you do with poker. Cool, calm, collected. You gotta take in the house. Start with a few negs/backhanded compliments. A few teases too so she can feel a need to prove herself to you. From what it sounds like she's a stuck up cocktail girl. This way you let her know that there is a new hotshot in the casino. Btw I'm in the Midwest also from Chicago. Get at me with those poker skills ;)
Field report of sorts:

The girl is just really shy, which is odd since she works a job that you have to have confidence to do (I think she has what they call situational confidence, but has no general confidence). In the end I found out she wasn't all that bright. It ended up being a total turn off, but I've got her texting me now so I'll probably just do the normal.

Anyway. I occasionally make it to Chicago. I live "close" actually. A few hours away. Winter is the perfect time of year for pickup imo. You can really set yourself apart with your whole attire. I tell all the guys/girls that I 'life coach' that this is the best time of the year for showing yourself off.

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