Friday

Again, nothing much to report on today. I had some things to do, so by the time class ended, I ate lunch pretty much right away, and there wasn’t much time left until I caught an earlier than usual bus out of there. To be fair though, as I was walking around a bit waiting for the bus, I could have approached a couple, but for whatever reason my heart just didn’t feel into it, I was bit tired, and I knew I was leaving soon so I just didn’t bother. I just caught the bus, then went to the gym.

I do, however, have a few thoughts about the week etc.

General Thoughts

Russian Blonde

I’m not sure what to say about this chick right now. One thing that I didn’t mention is that sometimes it sucks approaching someone when they’re sitting down, and you don’t get a chance to see what they look like fully until later.

Well Russian Blonde is hot, at least she’s my type from the waist up. But when she stood up, I noticed that she’s pretty much as tall as I am. The day I met her, she had a kind of long dress on that was fairly loose. Well on Monday when I saw her, she had jeans on, and she has pretty wide hips, which to me, makes her ass look way too big. She also has pretty thick legs, and just a larger lower body than I like. I like pretty much the opposite of what she is. And on Thursday when I saw her again, she had almost 3 inch heels on, so she was clearly taller than I was, and I did feel a bit funny walking with her through the school. I’m not used to a chick being taller than me, and it just felt a bit funny to me. Anyways, so to me right now, she’s only ok looking overall.

I’m not going to end up seeing her this weekend, as she has a big essay to do, and it’s just as well, because I forgot that there’s a UFC on Saturday night, and I’ll be watching that anyways.

I can see myself still hanging in there, but I’m starting to think that it’s not something that I’m going to put a huge amount of effort into. If things happen, then cool, if not, well no big deal.

My thoughts on the week overall

Well it certainly wasn’t much of a week as far as approaches or new prospects go. I ended off the last week so strong, but any momentum that I seemed to have really fizzled out. To be fair, it wasn’t completely a case of me not having the ambition, because Monday was mostly shot being with Russian Blonde; Tuesday I wasn’t even there; Wednesday was just one of those days where I didn’t see much around that I wanted to approach; Thursday was mostly taken up by spending more time with Russian Blonde; and today (Friday) I wasn’t there very long at all.

Perhaps a little subconsciously, I have been slacking a bit because I think I have a few things on the go now, and that the sense of urgency just wasn’t there like it was after my little ‘meltdown’ that I had last Tuesday. I have a couple of more prospects lined up from online dating this week, so between that and Russian Blonde, maybe it was easier for me to make excuses as well and just not have the same drive. I tried not to think that way, but I’m just thinking that maybe that had something to do with it.

Online game

I have one pretty solid prospect lined up through the online dating. She’s 25, pretty hot, and we’ve already talked on the phone for about a half an hour on Thursday night. She asked me to come out with her this weekend, but I had to tell her I’ll see her one day this week because I had plans to watch the UFC already. Another hot 20 yr old chick messaged me, but I’m still at the stage of the first couple of initial messages so I’m not too sure what’s going on with that one yet.

And some might think, how are these young chicks messaging this dude that’s clearly older? Well to be honest, when I made my profile, there’s a drop down box where you select the year that you were born in, and I made a bit of a mistake and selected the wrong decade that I was born in. I Can’t seem to change it now, so I left it. If a chick was ever into a long term thing, then I’d ‘come clean’, but I figure if it’s just something short term anyways, in ten years time did it really matter that the dude she slept with happened to be a bit older? I don’t think it’s a big deal.

Next Week

I’m going to make a point of getting back out there and not letting the fact that I do or don’t have other things lined up affect my motivation to approach. I still need to remember that ‘Someday there will be no tomorrow.’

Monday

It wasn’t a very long day today, but I managed one approach and a short conversation. I had things to do today, so I took an earlier bus out of there and went to the gym.

About a week or so ago I mentioned there was this girl in my class that I often see and she usually leaves out the same exit as I do in the lecture hall. I’ve spoken to her once before awhile ago. Well today I see her again, and she sat in the same row, maybe 5 or 6 seats to my left. I timed it so that we would be both leaving at the same time. And when lecture was over, she was heading towards the same exit as I was, so I knew that I had to talk to her now, as I don’t seem to see her all that often even though we’re in the same class.
Anyways, we were just starting to walk down the stairs and she was right beside me, so I just turned to her and said “hey, so how do you like the class so far?”. Kind of a lame opener perhaps, but I’ll talk more about that in a minute. Well she hooked right away and was very friendly and talkative. It was actually almost hard for me to get a word or two in for the first couple of minutes. So we just fluffed about class a bit, and she was on her way to get some lunch so I told her that I’d walk with her up to a certain area.

She was saying that she’s getting into medicine, and that she’s going to specialize as well. I was quite impressed, and to be honest, even slightly humbled by how mature and driven she seemed, as she was also telling me about some volunteer work she does at a hospital. Well, it wasn’t long after that she mentioned that all that work doesn’t leave her with much of a social life, but she does have a boyfriend. We got to the point where I was going a different way, so I just said see you later.

What is interesting is that this chick has looked at me quite a lot, so that’s why I was a bit surprised to find that she had a boyfriend. I’ll often see her looking at me, but I guess that she might just like the way I look or something even though she’s taken. No big deal, as I know that even though people are in relationships that they still like to look anyways.

General thoughts

Well I’m glad that I finally saw her and talked to her, as I’ve been wanting to get that approach over with for a few weeks now but haven’t had the opportunity to do so.

And I think that this approach, at least to me, proves that the opener really doesn’t matter too much. She was definitely into talking to me, as she was very talkative and all smiles and seemed pretty open and happy. I probably could have said almost anything to her to open and I would have got the same friendly reaction out of her.

If I had of made a thread here saying that there’s a chick in my class and I’ve seen her before, what’s a good opener that I can use? I probably would have got all different kinds of opinions, and some pretty elaborate and well-thought out ideas. But the reality was that sometimes you just have to open your mouth, and if it’s with the right girl and she’s into talking to you, then it doesn’t matter all that much what you say. Now don’t get me wrong, sometimes a certain witty, cute, or situational opener might be more ‘fun’ or grab her attention more than just a ‘hey, what’s up’, but what I’m saying is that if she’s into you or at least into talking to you from the start, then having some fancy or really unique opener really isn’t necessary, as it won’t make or break you. Sometimes you just have to say hi.

And like I was saying, for the amount of times I’ve seen her look at me, I was surprised to find out that she has a boyfriend. But in this case I’m glad she mentioned it, because at least now I know and can just be cool and say hi or whatever if I see her again instead of possibly getting my hopes up or spending my time and or energy thinking of her as a prospect.

But I’m happy that I approached her anyways, because at least now I know.

And unfortunately I have things to do so I won’t be at the school at all tomorrow, so there won’t be anything going on until Wednesday.

I've made a comment along these lines before, but there are chicks in places other than at your school.

Unless you spent the entire day in your home and didn't leave once, there was probably a decent chance of crossing paths with at least one girl. At the very least, even if approaches in those situations, whatever they may be, are outside of your current comfort zone, you should acknowledge the fact that they exist as possibilities. After all, I'm assuming that you do not plan to go celibate after earning your degree.

I've never once seen you mention seeing a hot girl on the street or at the retail store or in the shopping center or at the grocery or at a gathering of your friends. If one were to read your journal very literally, it would seem you only are ever in your house or on campus or traveling in between. I'm sure like the rest of us, you meet up with friends on occasion or go see a movie from time to time or have to go buy a new pair of shoes here and there or require food and soap and such. And I'm sure, like the rest of us, there are some hot chicks in those places while you are there too. You could be ravaging them.

Hey, it looks like this thread has been made a sticky! Haha, that’s pretty cool. Perhaps my journal sometimes serves as some pretty good unintentional comedy when I have one of my meltdowns and go on a three page rant when things don’t go my way! Haha, but thank you to whoever did that though. I’ll try to keep up with this journal and make it something worth reading. I’m glad this happened, because now I’ll just use it as more motivation because I’ll think that I need to keep up the progress and keep it ‘sticky worthy’, so I think this will be an advantage to me.

Well, I’m a couple of days behind here, even though there isn’t too much to catch up on that’s pickup related anyways.

Tuesday – A trip to the dentist

I went to the dentist today. I knew this was coming, but it’s some bad news that I might as well share as it is going to affect my game, but probably only temporarily. I had a root canal done many years ago, and through training, or grinding my teeth at night, or a bit of both, over time the tooth cracked and weakened. Unfortunately there wasn’t anything that could be done to save it, so it had to be pulled. So yeah, now I’m a “toothless 40 yr old” running around campus trying to pick up! Lol I’m not 40 yet, but still, it just paints a funny picture. Well, my dentist does cosmetic work, so when the tooth was pulled I got a titanium implant put in. But here’s the catch: It has to be left alone for four months for the bone to grow around it before I can get the porcelain tooth attached to it. So for the next four months, I have to wear a ‘denture’ with a fake tooth on it. It is uncomfortable as fuck to wear, and it slightly affects the way I talk, but only probably for a few days until I get used to it. This is my only option, as there is no way I’m going to be seen missing a tooth, even though it’s kind of far back in my mouth, but it would still be visible when I smile. So yeah, I have fresh stitches in my mouth, and I’m getting used to wearing this fucking denture!

Wednesday

I didn’t bother going into the school today. I could have went in, but I was up half of the night and couldn’t sleep, probably because of the various medications I was on like the anti-inflammatory, amoxicillin, and codeine for pain. Whenever I get pain meds, I’m usually pretty liberal with the dosages, but anyways I was up too late so I just took the day off to chill and get used to this denture and having fresh stitches in my mouth.

Thursday

I went to school today, but nothing too much to report. I just went in to class, grabbed some lunch afterwards, then took an early bus out of there and went to the gym. I could have done an approach or two on the benches, but I didn’t bother. My speech is pretty much normal, but it still feels pretty weird, so that was all the excuse that I needed to just say fuck it.

Going out for some night game tonight

I got a PM from this dude that lives in my area, so I agreed to meet up with him, and we’re going downtown tonight to check out a club. It’s sort of a higher end type of place where I’ll be wearing dress pants, so it’s unlike most places that I’ve been to before, so we’ll see how that goes. I’ll have zero logistics for the night, as I’ll have to drive to a mall, then take the subway downtown and meet him.

The guy is 24, and says he’s pretty good and generally picks up consistently.

Wanna know what really sucks about the whole dentist thing? Well, for starters, I’m not going to be too comfortable kissing a chick if I pick up tonight. I mean a little bit is ok, but I have stitches in my mouth, and this fucking denture is going to make any type of tongue action a no-go.

And to make things even worse, I have a date set up for tomorrow night with that hot 25 yr old chick that I met online. I mentioned her in my post this past Friday. And I’m sure that I’ll be kissing her tomorrow night, I’ll just have to pull away. Or, depending on how things go, I might just end up telling her about it, although depending on how she is, I’m not sure if she’d be ‘grossed out’ by it, or she’d just understand because there’s not much that I can do about it. Four months of this shit! I hate wishing time away, but I’ll be glad when the beginning of April hits and I won’t have to wear it anymore. Oh well, life goes on.

I have gone out with about seven guys from the forum and some more than once. It has definitely helped me elevate my game and it is good to see other guys who are knowledgeable about pick-up approaching girl. Definitely provide some feedback on how this experience was for you.

I think you'll be fine. It sounds like its probably only very slightly noticeable so it more than likely in your head than anything else. As far as your date goes, I'd just be open about it. Mention it early in the date or if when you first kiss her, it is uncomfortable, just tell her about it. Its not like you had a herpes-removal surgery, its really nothing.

Here's some motivation and humor for you: About a year and a half ago, I took a sucker punch straight to the bridge of the nose. It actually wasn't that hard of a shot, but through an active childhood, a lot of contact sports, and a few fights here and there over the years, I've had my nose broken a few times and had finally had corrective surgery on it at age 21 so it was already more susceptible to this sort of thing and the punch broke the bone and left a nasty black eye. As they say in boxing, my nose was "floating" i.e. I could literally move it around on my face. I was swollen, black and blue, and could barely see out of my left eye. That lasted for a few days and then all the healing progress I had made was erased because I had it operated on again to prevent my nose from being crooked and fucked up like it was prior to the first surgery. It still has a little dent in it but its imperceptible.

After general anesthesia, you are supposed to remain under a responsible adult's supervision for 24 hours. At the time, I was living with the two guys I mention somewhat frequently in my own thread. Cool guys, always going out, etc...Not exactly the type of guys who want to stay in and babysit their drugged up and incapacitated roommate on a Thursday evening in late April in an East Coast city. Thursday night was the beginning of the weekend and it was always fun, especially that time of year when the weather is perfect. So they brought me with them. Here I am, 6 hours post surgery, still living in an anesthetic haze, and loaded up on vicodin, chilling in one of the most popular lounges for a Thursday night in my town. It was a comedy of errors. I'm pretty sure my face looked like it was falling off of my skull. My cheeks and eyes were swollen as fuck. My voice was raspy as hell because of the breathing tubes that had been shoved down my throat just hours before. There's no way half of what I said made any sense at all. And on top of all that, I had some sort of splint, bandage type thing plastered to my nose and onto my cheeks to hold the newly set bones in place. But I just tried to act as composed as possible, had a few hilarious interactions, and ended up leaving with solid phone number from a sexy Brazilian chick and I actually ended up going on a date with her. My skills weren't quite what they are now so I didn't get anything out of that date but I still view it as a success considering the circumstances.

More importantly, a week or two prior to that incident, I had gotten the number off of another Brazilian girl (this was during my Brasiliera-crazy phase). We had hung out one time in a group setting since and had planned to have our first one-on-one date that Saturday, or in other words, two days after I had the surgery. I kept the plans. I was still swollen and still had that damn splint covering my face but I took her out for drinks, told her the story and what had happened to me, kept cool, acted as I normally would have, and waxed that ass. Anything's possible.

Well I have a bit of catching up to do here, as once again I’m a few days behind.

Thursday night – Night game, mission aborted

Out of respect for the dude who PM’d me, I won’t say too much about the night, but it was enough for me to say fuck it and bail before we even got to the club. In short, I met him at the subway stop, and another guy from the site ended up meeting us there as well. Instead of getting to the club, he wanted us to do 10 approaches in 5 minutes or something like that as a ‘warmup’, but there was hardly anything around worthwhile. I have no idea why, but it seemed the guy fancied himself as a coach or something, as he appeared to want to ‘lead’ the night by starting off with these exercises. He was a little high strung and kind of scatterbrained. The other dude listened to the guy, and started running around basically making a nuisance of himself. I kept my distance while this was going on. I knew right then that this was going to be a bust, but my plan was to just follow them to this club then once I got in I’d just do my own thing and make the best of things.

I flatly told the dude that I’m not into that, and that’s not what I came here for and that I was going to approach my own way and how I felt like it once we got to the club. Well the club was supposed to be a 15 minute walk but these two guys were doing some pretty fucked up uncalibrated approaches here and there along the way that took us off course. I’ll spare the details, but it was pretty rough. Well, 40 minutes later we finally got to the club that this guy was talking about, and guess what, it was closed! Holy fuck, what a fuck up and waste of time! We passed several other clubs along the way, but the few we did pass looked to be quite dressy, and the other two guys weren’t really dressed up enough to get in. Many of the people we saw outside had suits, blazers and shirt and tie type of clothing on, while the dude I met and the other guy had jeans on even though the plan was to go to a fancier place from the start.

The guy finally wanted to go to this other club that looked dead, and we saw more people coming out and leaving than we did going in. At this point, considering how far we walked, we would have had maybe 40 mins in the club before we would have had to leave and walk back to catch the last subway out of the downtown area. My plan all along was to basically just get to the club, and do my own thing when we got in there, but by this time it was getting late, and things looked like it was just a write-off. So I just told them it was getting late, and that I was going to take off, and I went my own way and walked back to the subway and got the fuck out of there. The pickup community can attract some pretty fucked up characters, no doubt. The dude says he picks up consistently, lol, my ass he does. The only thing he’ll pick up is a hooker if he’s got a few hundred bucks in his pocket. So much for not saying much about the night, oh well. But that was pretty rough, and a big fucking waste of my time.

Friday

Well today was supposed to be my date with that hot 25 yr old that I met online. That didn’t end up happening. Apparently she went out the night before, and was hung over and didn’t get a hold of me until later in the afternoon. After talking back and forth on the phone, she said that she’d still come out, but I basically said fuck it because she was saying she felt like shit etc, and I just said let’s save it for another day.

She told me about this guy she met from the site and that by the third date he was all over her etc. I was pretty much telling her that if I go out with a chick more than one time, then it means that I’m interested and that I’ll be already kissing her on the first night if I was interested. I think part of her story was just to try to show me that she wasn’t easy.

We got talking and I was making a joke about her inviting me over for a ‘sleepover’, and to ask her dad if that was cool. Well we got joking and talking back and forth about that, and as it turns out, as long as I see this chick, we will end up having the ‘sleepover’ at my place. She does live about 45 minutes away, but as long as something doesn’t fuck up by the time we reschedule, I should be able to nail this one.

A couple of more online prospects

Online game seems to be coming through for me a bit lately, which is more than I can say about my efforts at school. Oh well, I’ll take it where I can get it for now. A hot 24 yr old chick messaged me, and within an hour or two I already had her number and she sent me a nude pic of her. Wow, she has an amazing body, but to be critical, her face isn’t the greatest, but her body is just exactly what I like. She’s thin, with a firm and perky looking body. The big problem is that she lives a good hour and a half drive from me, and she lives at home with her parents. So I’m not sure what, if anything, will end up coming out of this one.

I sent a message to this hot 28 yr old Asian chick, and she replied and we went back and forth with some good conversation right away. A bit later on I got her number and we’ve since been texting each other. As it turns out, she just got out of a relationship, and is pretty much looking for something casual, which is good. She did say that she was a little hesitant about jumping right in with another guy because her breakup was so recent, but I’m hopeful that things will pan out with this one too.

I also ended up telling the hot 25 yr old chick about my trip to the dentist etc, and that was no big deal to her. I’m glad that I got that out of the way so that there’s no awkwardness when I end up seeing her in person.

Sunday

The hot 25 yr old is a bit skittish about meeting up it seems, as she tells me she gets cold feet and would need to have a few drinks etc. We did have plans to see each other today, but she cancelled saying that she lost her wallet. I’m sure it’s legit, as she seems quite distressed about the whole thing as was telling me how she’s phoned around to the last place she was at, and has already cancelled all her cards etc.It’s times like this where my patience gets tested and I have to watch myself that I don’t say anything that would fuck things up. This is the second time now we’ve pretty much had fairly definite plans to meet up and something’s fucked it up. I’ll just bite my tongue, and hopefully we can have this ‘sleepover’ soon so that I can finally detail a bit of a lay report in this journal!

General Thoughts

On gaming chicks outside of school in my regular day to day life

Daniel Balboa mentioned this a few days ago. I guess most of the reason that I don’t talk about chicks that I see in the grocery store etc much is that it’s true, it would take me out of my comfort zone a lot and I’m just not used to approaching in those situations. And usually, I go to the grocery store during the day, and there are hardly ever any chicks there that are worth approaching. Many of my errands are done during the day or at off times, and I usually just go in and do what I need to do then get out of there.

I shouldn’t think this way, but after leaving school where I see thousands of girls, trying to game in a grocery store almost seems like a lost cause or a waste of time because the prospects are so few and far between. But even still, I know that I should still try to act on opportunities if and when I do see them.

I guess in some ways, I take being at school for granted. Maybe if I was no longer a student and didn’t have access to the school environment, then I would be forced to look at other options much more seriously.

And when I go to the gym, it’s always during the day during off hours, so there are never any girls there. I’m not really too into approaching when I’m at the gym anyways. I’m usually really into what I’m doing, and I train really hard so I’m usually sweating and/or out of breath and just taking a certain amount of time until I do the next set. Before or after the workout is really the only time that I’d probably end up trying to approach. But it doesn’t really matter, because like I said, there are hardly ever any chicks in there during the day anyways.

On going out with friends or getting together

Most of my friends are all older, and most of them have been long married or settled down, so things just aren’t like they were when I was in my 20s. I used to have a big circle of friends that would party and go out or get together regularly. But life just happens, people move away, they get married, they close themselves off, they do their own thing over time. That’s just the way things go. Even the guys from that younger crowd that I used to hang with have all mostly settled down and have had serious girlfriends for years now. I have only one guy my age who still goes out, but I’ve mentioned him before, and he’s a bit of a mess nowadays with alcohol/drugs.

There’ a few other people that are fucked up like that too, and I just don’t associate with them anymore. When I was young, I used to associate more with the ‘bad ass’ blue collar sort of crowd, and not all of those people ended up being people that I would associate with nowadays.

And I do have another single guy, but he’s so far removed from going out and trying to score younger chicks. Most of my buddies clearly look like older guys, and they’d stand out like a sore thumb big time if they ever came to school with me, or came out to a bar/club that was filled with younger people. And like I’ve said, that’s just what I like, and I’m not into going to a cougar bar, I just have no interest in that. And if I ever do go over to a buddy’s house, to watch a UFC for example, there are never any single chicks there, or if there are, they are well into their 30s and beat down, and I’m just not into it at all.

That’s the reason why I’ve tried to go out with a few people from this site, because if I had a circle of dudes that were decent to go out with in the first place then I wouldn’t need to find guys that are into pickup from this site. It’s just a reality of getting older, most people are long out of the scene by the time they get anywhere near my age, and that’s just the way it is. I did meet up with 2 young guys earlier in the spring, and one of them I got along with pretty well. But he’s from a different culture, and even though he’s 21 he’s really not ‘allowed’ to be out late at clubs, so the only thing he can do is shopping mall game which I’m not into at all. Nobody my age runs around a fucking shopping mall picking up chicks, so I’m just not into that. He came out with me a couple of times in the summer, but he had to leave pretty much by the time most people were even showing up at the club.

I have lots of friends that I can pick up the phone and call and shoot the shit with, but I don’t have many at all that I can phone up and get to come out to a club with me. So that’s why most of my ‘gaming’ is centered around what I can do at school. I dunno, that’s just the way it is, life changes a bit as you get older, and it’s not always easy to make new circles of friends as you get older, especially when most people anywhere near my age are already settled down with kids. So if I want to go out and live the single life of a younger guy and score younger girls and be involved with that scene, then I have to either do it myself, or find a few more dudes from this site to check it out with. That’s just the reality of my situation and I have to make do with what I have.

Even though my most recent experience was a bust with meeting guys from this site, I think I am going to make a bit more of an effort to meet a few more, as I think that going out for some night game will be a good addition to what I can do at school. And who knows, I may just end up saying fuck it and start to go out to a few clubs by myself, but I’ve never done that before and I’m not sure what it would be like.

But anyways, I agree that I should look at day to day things that I do as opportunities to pick up more than I typically have in the past.

cephei,
I no longer have the time to read your threads anymore. maybe if I ever run into lots of free time again. Ive spent hundreds of days just sitting on my computer reading threads and advice and vids. It's gotten me close to nowhere. Ive made a commitment to end it. If youre willing, please send me a PM with advice.
I have approached some girls today and yet again they just up and leave and say bye after like 2-3 minutes of interaction when theres a small silence. I could push myself but I dunno it's not even worth it anymore. All my #'s dont respond to my texts OR they say no I wont give you my number in an indirect or direct way when I ask for it. Sometimes they offer facebook and reject me. The only success Ive gotten is a facebook accept from a mediocre girl I dont feel like pursuing. Help

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Just trying to meet a 10.

Haha, funny story.

And yeah, the best way is to just be cool about it and tell her without sounding embarrassed or apologetic about it at all. I told the “hot 25yr old” on the phone about my dental issue, and it wasn’t a big deal at all. I just basically told her like it was, just something that happened, and it was no big deal. And that sounds like exactly what you did with that Brazillian chick, for sure.

Yeah, my nose is a bit fucked up too actually. It looks fine from the outside, but it’s slightly shifted on the inside so that one passageway is larger than the other, but I’ve never bothered with the surgery to fix it though.

Haha, and yeah, I know how it is once you come out of general anesthesia, you’re definitely pretty messed up still. I’ve had a couple of surgeries on my elbow when I was 19, and just 2 years ago I had surgery on my shoulder. Lol I could only imagine what it would have been like to be at a bar just hours later! But sounds like you ended up doing alright! Nice.

But anyways, now that I’ve told her about it, I just have to get things set up and get out there and see her and hopefully finally get laid, as this journal has been going on for far too long without me getting anything!

Well, I’ll just reply to you here, in case something that I say could help out anyone else. But to be honest, I’m not sure what else that I can say that I haven’t already said in my last couple of replies to you. Like I said, I have no problem answering questions, and I’m somewhat flattered that you’d even ask me for advice, as there are lots of other people here who can give you better advice than I can.

The only thing that I can tell you is to stick with it. We all have our days where it seems like things just aren’t coming together, but sticking with it is what often separates the people who succeed from the people who give up and fail. The road to success isn’t always a straight path upwards, often it’s two steps forward, one step back. But the best that you’re going to do is to learn from your own experience, and gain confidence based on your own success. You have to just keep at it and try to objectively analyze your game and see if you can pick out weaknesses or areas where you can improve.

One thing I notice is that in your signature, it says “just trying to meet a 10”. Well without sounding like a dick, are you a 10 right now? What I mean is, are you the best that you can be at the moment? If not, then it might be hard for you to get a 10 if you’re not one yourself yet. Now use that as motivation and improve yourself, in all areas. Is your lifestyle a 10? Your looks? Your confidence? Your clothes? Your body? Etc etc? If not, it doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t do anything until you do become a “10”. But I’m just wondering if you’re approaching these really hot chicks that blow off guys all the time? Just to gain some experience, maybe lower your standards a little bit and try for girls that might be less than perfect, as it will give you a better chance, and will allow you to gain some experience which will make you gain confidence.

But don’t worry man, everyone gets a lot of dead ends and flakes, it’s just part of the game. You just have to keep trying, and hopefully each time you approach you can take one little thing away from it as a learning experience. And keep working on yourself, and be the best version of yourself that you can be, it will pay off greatly not only in pickup, but in your life as a whole. And there is no losing when it comes to that. I’m sorry, I wish there was more that I could say, but right now other than what I told you in my last couple of posts I’m not sure what else I can tell you except keep your head up and get back out there and try again. Because when you do get that bit of success, it will feel amazing, and all these shitty times will feel like they’ve been worth it because they’ve been a part of the process that has allowed you to grow and achieve your goals. Keep at it man, good luck.

Monday

Well other than two brief interactions on the benches and another online prospect, there isn’t too much to report on today. After school I went straight to the gym.

At school

I’m still getting used to talking with this fucking denture! Lol fuck me. I spoke a few brief words to two chicks on the benches today, but I really didn’t bother to try to continue the conversations. One chick, an Asian girl, seemed more startled than anything that I even spoke to her. And the other one was right at the end of the day when I had about 2-3 minutes before I had to get up to walk to the bus loop area.

My speech isn’t bad, but every so often it just feels weird trying to talk. It’s hard to describe, but I’m getting used to it, but it’s taking awhile.

Online prospects

I messaged this really hot chick and I was a bit surprised that she messaged me back with a fair bit of interest. That’s not to take anything away from myself, but it’s just been my experience that it’s tough to get a really hot chick’s attention sometimes with online dating as the guy to girl ratio seems ridiculous sometimes.

Anyways, it turns out she just turned 27, and she’s a model. She’s a really hot looking girl. I already got her number, and we talked on the phone for awhile tonight. She only lives about 20 minutes away from me, and we have a date set up for this Thursday night.

I have a tentative date set up for this Saturday night with Online Asian that I mentioned in my last post. I’m still talking to “hot 25 yr old” that I talked about the sleepover with, but we still don’t have a date set up yet.

And the shitty thing is that I’m fighting off a bit of a cold now. I started to get a bit of a sore throat yesterday, and it’s still lingering today, but not getting any worse thankfully. I can see the sore throat going away, and just a sniffle cold happening for a few more days, as that’s usually what happens judging by how it’s going so far.

Anyways, I need to put this damn denture out of my mind and get back to approaching at the school. My speech is pretty much fine, and it’s not like I’m sitting there drooling all over myself, or I’m going to launch the thing out of my mouth if I cough, so I don’t’ really have anything to ‘worry’ about. But still, it still feels awkward as fuck when I pronounce certain words. But what can I do, I’ll get used to it.

Tuesday

I went into the school today, but I wasn’t feeling the greatest. My sore throat is mostly gone, but it’s turned into a bit of a cold so I’ve been kind of stuffed up.

I had three brief interactions that weren’t really much at all.

One of them was when I was sitting down at a section of long tables, and this girl was sitting across from me but a seat or two to my left. She was fixated on her phone, and she didn’t even look up or barely move. I had to look closely to see that she was even breathing. I asked her to watch my stuff for a minute while I got up, and made my little comment/joke about how nobody is gonna steal my school notes anyways, and I got a nice smile out of her. As I sat back down, we made eye contact, I smiled and said thanks then complimented her on the scarf that she was wearing. She was dressed up quite nice, and her scarf looked pretty cool as it had some skulls on it, so she said thanks with a nice smile then went back to her phone. I just left it at that, and a few minutes later she left.

The second one was when I was sitting on a bench beside this Asian chick whose hair was covering her face, and she was looking down at her phone and her book so I couldn’t tell what she looked like. I commented on the book she was reading, and when she turned to face me she looked pretty beat so I pretty much left it at that.

The last one I did was on a set on long benches, and I sat beside this fancy-dressed Indian-looking chick that had on some sort of hat/toque on. I asked her something about some sort of display thing that was set up in one of the hallways, and she replied but was pretty much expressionless and devoid of emotion or life it seemed. So after that I pretty much left it there. I got up and went to the bus area as I left pretty early again today.

So I just caught the bus and went to the gym even though I wasn’t feeling all that shit hot.

I’m glad I made those three minor ‘approaches’ today as I did feel kind of rusty because I haven’t done too much in the last week or so since my dentist appointment. It felt good just to sort of break that ice and talk to a few girls, even though it was very brief. The only one that I sort of regret not taking further was the one with the scarf that I complimented. She actually seemed quite friendly. It’s kind of an excuse, but part of me just left it at that because I’m still getting comfortable with talking, I’m kind of sick, and she seemed really into her phone and whatever she was doing with it.

Anyways, nothing too significant today, but at least I made a bit of an effort just to ease myself back into the habit of approaching.

Wednesday

Not much to report on today. I wasn’t feeling all that great again today, so I decided that I wasn’t going to stick around too long, and since I have that date set up for tomorrow night with OnlineModel I thought it would be best for me to just go home and try to rest up.

It was just as well, because after class this guy I know in my class hung around me for a bit, and we just had lunch and shot the shit about working out etc for awhile then I caught an early bus out of there. Today was a day off the gym, so I just went straight home then got a haircut.

I thought I’d mention a bit about “hot 25 yr old”, which I guess I’ll refer to as HotReceptionist from here on out. I talked to her last night again on the phone for awhile, and we have a date set up for this Sunday, so hopefully nothing fucks up as this will be the third time we’ve had something set up.

I mentioned that she was a bit skittish or uneasy about meeting someone that she didn’t know from online. And I also mentioned that we had that little ‘joke’ going back and forth about having a sleepover. So considering that she was a little nervous or uneasy about meeting someone, it was a good idea for me to try my best to make her feel comfortable to give myself the best chances of this actually happening.

When I was talking to her, I said that we can just meet up with no pressure, we’ll go to a restaurant/pub sort of place and have a drink and talk for awhile. And then after a drink, maybe we can just call it a day if we both want. Or, if things go well and we both want to stay out longer, then we can play it by ear and see what happens after that. What I didn’t want to do was make her feel like this ‘sleepover’ thing was something that she felt she had to commit to before we have even met in person. That is putting a fair bit of pressure on her from the start, and considering she’s already mentioned that she’s a bit ‘nervous’ about meeting me, then it made sense for me to try to make things seem as casual and pressure-free for her as I could so that she would feel comfortable enough to agree to our plans. She’s just getting out of a several year relationship, and I’ll be the first guy she’s seen in quite awhile.

The way that I see it, is that she’s into taking things further as long as she’s comfortable and our date is going smoothly, but she also wants some sort of ‘exit strategy’ just in case things go south. So that’s exactly what I’m trying to give her. The last thing that I want to do is sound overly excited or eager and keep talking about a ‘sleepover’, even if it’s just being playful, because I know that sounding too eager could totally butcher things by putting too much pressure on her and have her think it’s just going to be a pump and dump. It’s just about being kind of aware of the situation, or being a bit calibrated, or however you want to describe it.

I certainly don’t want to seem like I’ll pressure her, or that she will feel ‘forced’ into carrying out the night like we ‘joked’ about in our phone conversation. I know that sometimes it’s all too easy to get caught up in a good idea on the phone, but then later get cold feet or reconsider after the mood has worn off. So I’m just trying to play this out so that I give myself a good chance of seeing her, then making her feel comfortable, and after that things should flow naturally and smoothly as long as we both like each other and we get along.

But this cold that I have slightly worries me now. I’m really stuffed up and have been blowing my nose a lot, and the way I’m going my nose is going to be chapped and all red by tomorrow night, which is hardly the first impression I want OnlineModel to see. But on the other hand, I really don’t want to cancel on her, because I can probably be sure that she’s received a hundred other messages from guys who are all too eager to take her out.

Now is not the best time to be sick. I have the date with OnlineModel tomorrow night, and it looks like I’ll have Friday to rest, then I might have the date with OnlineAsian on Saturday, then the date with HotReceptionist on Sunday. I could run the risk of running myself down, but I have my fingers crossed that I can shake it off and it won’t turn into anything too bad. We’ll see how it goes. Lol for all I know how my luck has been lately, I might be lucky for one of those dates to go through, let alone all three! Haha, we’ll see what happens.

Thursday

A few approaches at the school today. And my cold is definitely on it’s way out, so that’s good.

I made three approaches, but two of them were just very brief and hardly worth mentioning.

I sat on a bench beside this Asian girl, and I asked her something about the last day of school. She had her headphones in, so I had to say it a second time before she realized that I was talking to her. She showed little interest and started to put her headphones back in almost right away so I just left it. I coulda/shoulda tried and pushed a bit more, but I really didn’t feel like it.

The second one was a blonde chick that I sat beside on these long benches in this big open area. I just asked her something similar, and we went back and forth and exchanged a few words, but she didn’t really seem too into talking so I left that one alone as well.

The third one went well. I sat on a different set of long benches beside this brown girl that looked to be Indian or something like that. I asked her something similar about the last day of school, and she was very friendly and hooked right away, so we talked for about 5-7 minutes. This was right at the end of the day, and I had to catch my bus. I could have stayed a few minutes longer, but I would have missed my bus and I wanted to take off. I found out she was from Sri Lanka, and I asked a bit about what she’s doing with her break off from school. She said she may travel a bit, and take part in some religious type things. She was Christian and seemed to be quite religious just from what she was saying.

I knew I had to take off, so I thought that I’d get right to the point. I asked her what else she was doing on her break, and if she has a boyfriend. She sort of laughed a bit and said no, almost like it was a funny question. She says she’s much too into her school work for a boyfriend and she prefers to be single for now. She was really nice and polite, so I thought that it would be nice to ‘practice’ giving a direct compliment to her so I said something like “Well, I should get going now … but yeah, if you didn’t say that you wanted to be single, I was going to ask you out, because I think that you’re really cute (said with a smile)” …. She lit up with a big smile and said thank you, then I got up and said “well it was really nice meeting you” I took her hand then said “take care, see you later”, then I walked away and caught my bus then went to the gym. She was a cute chick for sure. Pretty face, nice skin, petite, thin, nice body, just the type that I like.

Thursday Night – Date with OnlineModel

Well she had to work in the morning, so I knew going in that probably not too much was going to happen. Keep in mind this is from online dating, so we’d never seen each other in person before. I didn’t end up getting down to her place until a bit after 7:30, and she met me in her building and we went up to her place for a bit. Our original plan was to just go out for a coffee/tea and talk. Well she definitely looked better in her pictures that she did in person. She’s still a hot chick, nice and thin, but she had a few modeling pics posted on her profile, and I guess they were done up with lots of makeup and good lighting etc. I shouldn’t really be too surprised actually, but yeah, she didn’t look quite as good in person.

A piece of information that I should mention as it seems that it is relevant to how things went is that she recently, in the last five months, got out of what she described as a very abusive relationship. It seemed her ex bf was a douche and hit her a lot among other things. I didn’t get a lot of the gory details, but apparently it was pretty bad.

So anyways, we ended up just relaxing at her place watching a bit of music videos on the tv and talking. I sat on one of her couches, and she sat on the other one. I was hoping that she’d at least sit on the same couch, but that was just an indication of how the night would play out.

She has a couple of small dogs that were running about and we were petting them a bit. At one point they were both on the couch with her, and I ended up saying something like, “well I don’t want the dogs to have ALL your attention”, so I moved over on the couch and sat beside her.

We sat beside each other, and our legs were barely touching a bit, and she seemed really shy and/or nervous in a way. She made good eye contact with me when we were talking from a distance, but it seemed once I was close to her it changed. A few minutes later she got up, and when she sat back down, she sat so that there was no more contact. Usually, getting up and sitting back down makes it easier to get even closer because she’ll sort of sit down and both of you will be right together. So after a minute or two we seemed to move closer, and then I put my arm around her and sort of pulled her into me.

Well she was a cold fish, almost lifeless. She awkwardly sort of just flopped back and went where I pulled her, but didn’t reposition herself or get comfortable at all. It was almost like she just leaned to the side but remained rigid, if that makes sense. I knew that she was awkward or uneasy, so I didn’t try to do anything else except rub her arm a bit, and also her side with the arm that I had around her. I wasn’t sure at this point whether she’s always this shy, or the abusive relationship really put her into a shell.

Just from talking to her, I gathered that she liked me and everything was cool that way, so I pretty much knew her coldness wasn’t from a lack of interest on her part. She was already asking me what I was doing on the weekend, and we talked about going to see a movie together because there was one that she wanted to see. Anyways, not much else happened, and I decided to leave awhile later saying that I’ll let her get to bed because she had an early morning. She walked with me to the elevator and went down to the main floor with me. She said that she’s sorry and that she’s very shy at first, because I guess she knew how awkward she was being.

When we got to the bottom floor, we got out and I have her a hug and said that it was nice to meet her tonight. I went in for the kiss, and she sort of came in with her face turned like she was giving me her cheek, but at the last second she turned so that we kissed on the lips. It was like she reconsidered at that last minute. Anyways, kind of a weird chick. I’ve dealt with ‘cold fish’ before, but I must say that she was one of the most awkward, shy, and kind of lifeless ones I’ve ever had. It almost reminded me of being in high school, and the way the first few super awkward dates went, but the thing is that she just turned 27. Well, I’m not kidding when I say that usually the ones I’ve met from online dating have been kind of fucked up in some way or another. But she’s a very nice girl it seems, and I actually feel quite bad for her if she’s that way because of that POS ex boyfriend of hers. Apparently he was some football player that was on juice. But anyways, that was the night, and I guess I’ll see how it goes from here.

And just as I was writing this up, it looks like I have a last minute plan set up for tonight (Friday). HotReceptionist is coming over to my place to watch a few movies. It’s a bit of a haul for me to go get her then bring her here, because she lives with her dad and can’t have me over there. Should be a good night hopefully, and a report should follow sometime tomorrow.

I think you may have misplayed this one. If a girl tells me she wants to be single, I interpret that as a huge sign to move ahead. In a way, she's saving face, finding an acceptable reason to be single. But she's also giving you a green light to hit on her. My estimation of it, anyways.