I have been stuck in the friend zone with a girl I would rate as a 9.5 on a scale of a 1-10 with 10 being the most attractive. She's not a stripper nor a party girl but can have a good time when a good time is to be had. I've been slowly escalating out of the friend zone by turning everything sexual and turning up the kino more and more with every time I see her. Last weekend I was laying with her in her bed with the lights off listening to Coldplay and just talking about dreams and goals. I decided to start kino escalating by getting closer and giving her a back massage while still talking. As I see her enjoying this, I move away and completely stop with the massage in order to amplify her desire for my touch. It worked and she came even closer to me. I noticed this and rewarded it with slow sensual petting of her forearm while also barely hovering my two fingers over the top of her small baby hairs on her arm. She absolutely enjoyed this and we continued talking. After a few minutes of this and seeing the conversation was turning down I told her that if I were to die tomorrow then the one thing I would regret would be not making out with her. I went slowly in for the kiss close after saying this only to have her turn the cheek. She then asked if it were out of my system yet and I said "No" while going back in only to be denied again. I didn't get upset like an AFC but just turned around and continued having a conversation with her like nothing happened. This seemed to really throw her off as she came closer to me and just wanted to cuddle after that. I left in the morning and have now been acting like nothing happened that night. I continue to turn all of our conversations into sexual conversations and always make it seem like she is the one that is talking sexually to me.

Now my question to those who have possibly been through this before is whether or not I go back to the well and try kiss closing again but approach it in a different way or should I just let it be and accept the friend zone? Thanks in advance!

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I say you don't have much to lose here. Technically, girls become exponentially more likely to accept your kiss-- but, her asking "did you get it out of your system" would seem to imply that she wants you to stop.

The question here is whether she was giving out IOIs. Its possible that she had bad breath or that you had something in your teeth, etc. Coming closer to you and cuddling can also be something a girl does with her gay friend. Are there other IOIs she's giving you that would suggest attraction and not just comfort?

If she's giving off body-language IOIs, I would not go in for the kiss next time. Grab her by her belt and pull her right up to you. Pucker up. If she doesn't kiss you, ask her what's up. She may just say she doesn't feel that way about you. If she does, don't waste your time. Move on to the next girl.

Best,

JPow

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thanks for the info guys. it'll really help me.

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Cuddles are good if ur setting urself up as the Daddy. But cuddles and coldplay?

C'mon son.

Dude, what the fuck.
Never ask if she wants to be kissed.
Go in, if she shows she doesn't want to, give her the "What are you doing? You're not supposed to be doing that." face, then step back,

It's critical that YOU maintain YOUR frame in the conversation. (Gives her a genuine view of who you are.)
e.g.
You: So how about we meet tonight?
Her: I have a bf. /// Sure, let's go to that expensive restaurant that you can't afford nor want to go to. /// Can I bring a friend with me?
You: Do you like chinese food or do you prefer regular? I actually wanna go to a Chinese place.
Her: So can I bring a friend then?
You: Nah. (Just say no, don't explain or anything.)
Her: Why not?
You: Nah. *act aloof with a playful smile*

This stuff takes LOADS of time and nerve to practice. I'm still trying to put this together myself.

iwishiwasimportant has a point here, actually. Cuddling? AFC stuff.
Girls give their love to you, THEY love you not you love them.
What you can do instead of cuddling would be random touches etc. and stay off of her, she'll be like, why isn't he cuddling me? I wanna feel him. Most guys do. So why does he not? Does he not need me? But I need him.
Talk, frame control and she's gonna wait for you to let her make a move. (where you switch the whole situation so she can touch you with her thinking "Yeahhh, now I can touch him and he doesn't know I actually wanna to.)

Attraction?
Who cares if it's NOT there? You only care if it is. Think it is and subtly go in for the kill.

What is love?
Love is the proud feeling you get from the genuine acts of good will, loyalty, softness (usually hidden if true love) against the other person. (That's just my opinion.)
Act like you deserve to be loved and you will be.
Powerful people deserve love. People who suffer but stay strong. People who take all the responsibility in danger. Heroes. Leaders. Alpha men. People who defend others.

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