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Ok Meth, that is true what you are admitting right now, that everyone has different methods to PUA, which is what this forum is about.
So, with that in mind, quit bashing the different gurus methods and the guys that need them to help them get started. You may say you're not bashing them now, or even here in this thread, but the point is, you do bash that very thing and THAT will end up making noobs feel like they are doing something wrong or make them feel like shit.
So, take your own advice man, and don't bash what they are doing, when they NEED to use canned material and what have you.
Dude, for the 100th time, I don't bash people who followed strict methods, I encourage them to progress past them. You can continue to say that I bash them, because it helps you to continue promoting the stigma surrounding my posts. But I assure you those that read my posts are getting a different point than the one you're tuning into.
Are you positive? Sure, some people will get the point you're trying to convey, but I also know some are confused by it too, thinking that you are saying fuck methods and things like that. You know why they think you say that? . . . Because you have actually said that. Dude, I'm just saying what I've been saying to you for some time now. I don't think you always realize just how you're coming across to people. Seriously. I'm not promoting some stigma around your posts. I can't help it that you think you're above what I do to anyone else. I do the same thing to everyone. If I see something that is incongruent with someone, or just flat out wrong, I call it out. Period. Most guys on here appreciate that fact. I can't help it that you don't. Most guys use what I do to help them move past the issue that I pointed out. Which is exactly why I point it out.
Meth, I can't count the number of times either I, or other prominent members of this forum have specifically been asked about whether methods are good or should be followed, BECAUSE they saw someone on the forum continuously bashing methods or gurus. I'm not laying all of that at your feet, but I do know, and you do also, that you have been a part of that. That's all I've been trying to get across on this particular issue.
ZzZzZzzzzzZzZZzzz, we've been here many times before buddy, do we really need to walk down this path again? I know that you're the man, you've told me many times before. I have no need for further discussion on anything related to what you've said. Except of course, one (kind of) small point.
Great, I'm glad they are thinking! They should be questioning the validity of methods and the so-called gurus. And the fact of the matter remains that they should also in fact learn why methods will only take them so far. I guess if it takes me "bashing" (as you have so cutely misinterpreted it) the methods and the cheerleaders who promote them, then I'm happy to help anyone who listens. People who ACTUALLY know me, see my writings in a FAR different light than you ever have, so I'm really too concerned about your statements about how I come across. These people should not be being indoctrinated into some (usually) self-proclaimed guru's ideas just because certain interests on this site (and dozens others) profit from affiliate programs! The fact of the matter has and will remain that anyone who strives to understand social dynamics for themselves, taking what they want from where they want, and adapting it all into their own style will have much more success in the end. FACT. So, please, lay it all at my feet TRIPP!