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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:57 pm 
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Ok! I am 25, I am on a course with 10 other guys and 1 girl (20). The course is 3 weeks and I have just finished week 1.

Right, Day one.. Everything goes well. I make the whole group laugh and, more importantly, made her laugh. made a lot of eye contact....by the end of day 1 I was probably the alpha male in the group. there is one other guy that could be competition but I think she is getting pi**ed off by his rudeness and immaturity. I can tell he doesn't like me so I think he can see me having an effect on her.

Day 2 everything is good...she mentions to everyone that she has a boyfriend..nevermind, didn't really bother me...thought it would get rid of most of the competition.

Day 3 everything is good, she pairs her self off with me in the classes. she is still flirting. She hasn't mentioned her boyfriend since..

Day 4 gets interesting, we're both outside smoking, just the 2 of us... she is flirting away.. then somehow, she brings up her boyfriend. She said she sometimes stays at her "boyfriends" house. she used her inverted comma fingers when she said boyfriend as if to say it wasn't too serious... naturally I was shouting "YES" in my head! OK, left day 4 on a high...went home and planned my next move

Day 5 (today) Got to class fairly early, I chose a different seat..(I don't think I should have now!) I didn't want to come across as needy or clingy... anyway, when she came in, she barely looked at me! didn't say anything. no flirting all day...and she avoided eye contact all day. That really knocked my confidence! kept wanting to initiate something but I couldn't figure out how to do it!

Ok so I have this weekend to come up with a mighty good plan! and figure out what I did wrong. I need some help from you guys...any Ideas why she might have suddenly changed? any ideas on what I should do next??

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:08 pm 
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You did a good job. When a girl constantly mentions her bf to you and still keeps talking it means she is interested in you but doesn't want to feel guilty about cheating and therefore lets you know she has a bf so that when you seduce her she can rationalize and say "I told him before I have a bf it's his fault not mine". Putting that aside, when you do have the moment when you feel like you guys are connecting don't be worried about looking needy and try to take things as far as possible. Needy means you want something but your afraid to go for it. So in this case by trying to avoid to be needy you came out to be needy. Now, the fact that she didn't look at you doesn't mean you did anything wrong. She might be really tired or exhausted or for some other reason. Next time continue talking to her and reach an emotional connection with her and try to kiss or go as far as possible sexually with her. Even if she rejects you she will still respect you for having the balls. Also it's very important to chat to other girls in class and create a sense of jealousy between all the girls you talk to, it's really powerful, trust me.

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You did a good job. When a girl constantly mentions her bf to you and still keeps talking it means she is interested in you but doesn't want to feel guilty about cheating and therefore lets you know she has a bf so that when you seduce her she can rationalize and say "I told him before I have a bf it's his fault not mine". Putting that aside, when you do have the moment when you feel like you guys are connecting don't be worried about looking needy and try to take things as far as possible. Needy means you want something but your afraid to go for it. So in this case by trying to avoid to be needy you came out to be needy. Now, the fact that she didn't look at you doesn't mean you did anything wrong. She might be really tired or exhausted or for some other reason. Next time continue talking to her and reach an emotional connection with her and try to kiss or go as far as possible sexually with her. Even if she rejects you she will still respect you for having the balls. Also it's very important to chat to other girls in class and create a sense of jealousy between all the girls you talk to, it's really powerful, trust me.
I agree except I definitely wouldn't try to kiss her head on... Instead, slowly work your way up the DiCarlo Ladder and see at what stage she'll reject you.

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Wow you are overthinking things. If you want to sit there then sit there. If you are flirting with her then flirt with her. This is your reality, you choose what you want to say and do. She could have had a bad day, she could've had a problem with her boyfriend, she could have been really tired, she could have had a day where she didn't want to talk to people that much. She could have completely and utterly lost interest in you thinking you're a perve and decided to hurt your ego big time by not looking at you today. (Sarcasm). See how silly this sounds? You're 25 goddamnit. Not in kindergarten. If you make the move then MAKE THE MOVE. FLIRT with her. TOUCH her. Get to know her. Without any apologies. You think she's cute. Does she have more to it than that though? You want to talk to her, then do it. "How's your day?" You decide what to talk about. Invite her out somewhere without any apologies. "Hey you should come out with us Friday night to go to X." See? It's not hard. It just takes balls. Get some balls and do it. If you had 5 other girls who wanted you right now, would this one girl really be all that to you? Think to yourself "Cute, she's shy today" and go talk to her.

She didn't reject you or anything. I don't know why you are making such a big deal out of it.

Invite her out. Flirt with her when she comes out. Get physical. Escalate and make the vibe sexual. Tell her you want to kiss her. Do it. Lead lead lead. Dominate. Keep your frame without any apologies whatsoever. Stay unaffected by what she says and does. You must know what you want and go for it and stick to it. You've chosen this, now do it and don't change or waver. Say and do what you want. What YOU want.

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Ok, yes, I probably am over-thinking things a little bit.
I do have 2 other girls on and off, but they don't live close and one is married and the other is engaged.
I should point out that I am not overly worried, but it winds me up when I don't understand something, and then all of a sudden I don't know what I'm doing!
anyway, thanks for all these suggestions. :)

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Ok, yes, I probably am over-thinking things a little bit.
I do have 2 other girls on and off, but they don't live close and one is married and the other is engaged.
I should point out that I am not overly worried, but it winds me up when I don't understand something, and then all of a sudden I don't know what I'm doing!
anyway, thanks for all these suggestions. :)
You don't have to understand everything. It's great to know s much as you can, but you cannot read her mind, so it is absolutely pointless to try to understand or figure out what's going on inside her head. All you need to know is what you want, and that you go for that. You DO know what you're doing, because what you do doesn't really depend upon her. It depends upon you and what you want. Then once you know your want you do it.


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Ok! I am 25, I am on a course with 10 other guys and 1 girl (20). The course is 3 weeks and I have just finished week 1.

Right, Day one.. Everything goes well. I make the whole group laugh and, more importantly, made her laugh. made a lot of eye contact....by the end of day 1 I was probably the alpha male in the group. there is one other guy that could be competition but I think she is getting pi**ed off by his rudeness and immaturity. I can tell he doesn't like me so I think he can see me having an effect on her.

Day 2 everything is good...she mentions to everyone that she has a boyfriend..nevermind, didn't really bother me...thought it would get rid of most of the competition.

Day 3 everything is good, she pairs her self off with me in the classes. she is still flirting. She hasn't mentioned her boyfriend since..

Day 4 gets interesting, we're both outside smoking, just the 2 of us... she is flirting away.. then somehow, she brings up her boyfriend. She said she sometimes stays at her "boyfriends" house. she used her inverted comma fingers when she said boyfriend as if to say it wasn't too serious... naturally I was shouting "YES" in my head! OK, left day 4 on a high...went home and planned my next move

Day 5 (today) Got to class fairly early, I chose a different seat..(I don't think I should have now!) I didn't want to come across as needy or clingy... anyway, when she came in, she barely looked at me! didn't say anything. no flirting all day...and she avoided eye contact all day. That really knocked my confidence! kept wanting to initiate something but I couldn't figure out how to do it!

Ok so I have this weekend to come up with a mighty good plan! and figure out what I did wrong. I need some help from you guys...any Ideas why she might have suddenly changed? any ideas on what I should do next??
You cannot read her mind and you dont need to! But you can get much better at understanding her behavior. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHrCFXGl ... r_embedded

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Ok! I am 25, I am on a course with 10 other guys and 1 girl (20). The course is 3 weeks and I have just finished week 1.

Right, Day one.. Everything goes well. I make the whole group laugh and, more importantly, made her laugh. made a lot of eye contact....by the end of day 1 I was probably the alpha male in the group. there is one other guy that could be competition but I think she is getting pi**ed off by his rudeness and immaturity. I can tell he doesn't like me so I think he can see me having an effect on her.

Day 2 everything is good...she mentions to everyone that she has a boyfriend..nevermind, didn't really bother me...thought it would get rid of most of the competition.

Day 3 everything is good, she pairs her self off with me in the classes. she is still flirting. She hasn't mentioned her boyfriend since..

Day 4 gets interesting, we're both outside smoking, just the 2 of us... she is flirting away.. then somehow, she brings up her boyfriend. She said she sometimes stays at her "boyfriends" house. she used her inverted comma fingers when she said boyfriend as if to say it wasn't too serious... naturally I was shouting "YES" in my head! OK, left day 4 on a high...went home and planned my next move

Day 5 (today) Got to class fairly early, I chose a different seat..(I don't think I should have now!) I didn't want to come across as needy or clingy... anyway, when she came in, she barely looked at me! didn't say anything. no flirting all day...and she avoided eye contact all day. That really knocked my confidence! kept wanting to initiate something but I couldn't figure out how to do it!

Ok so I have this weekend to come up with a mighty good plan! and figure out what I did wrong. I need some help from you guys...any Ideas why she might have suddenly changed? any ideas on what I should do next??
You cannot read her mind and you dont need to! But you can get much better at understanding her behavior. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHrCFXGl ... r_embedded
Dude why the fuck are you always linking to that one video? Stop spamming this shit.


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Ok! I am 25, I am on a course with 10 other guys and 1 girl (20). The course is 3 weeks and I have just finished week 1.

Right, Day one.. Everything goes well. I make the whole group laugh and, more importantly, made her laugh. made a lot of eye contact....by the end of day 1 I was probably the alpha male in the group. there is one other guy that could be competition but I think she is getting pi**ed off by his rudeness and immaturity. I can tell he doesn't like me so I think he can see me having an effect on her.

Day 2 everything is good...she mentions to everyone that she has a boyfriend..nevermind, didn't really bother me...thought it would get rid of most of the competition.

Day 3 everything is good, she pairs her self off with me in the classes. she is still flirting. She hasn't mentioned her boyfriend since..

Day 4 gets interesting, we're both outside smoking, just the 2 of us... she is flirting away.. then somehow, she brings up her boyfriend. She said she sometimes stays at her "boyfriends" house. she used her inverted comma fingers when she said boyfriend as if to say it wasn't too serious... naturally I was shouting "YES" in my head! OK, left day 4 on a high...went home and planned my next move

Day 5 (today) Got to class fairly early, I chose a different seat..(I don't think I should have now!) I didn't want to come across as needy or clingy... anyway, when she came in, she barely looked at me! didn't say anything. no flirting all day...and she avoided eye contact all day. That really knocked my confidence! kept wanting to initiate something but I couldn't figure out how to do it!

Ok so I have this weekend to come up with a mighty good plan! and figure out what I did wrong. I need some help from you guys...any Ideas why she might have suddenly changed? any ideas on what I should do next??
You cannot read her mind and you dont need to! But you can get much better at understanding her behavior. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHrCFXGl ... r_embedded
Dude why the fuck are you always linking to that one video? Stop spamming this shit.
Hey friend.
This video contains a lot of useful information that helps many of our friends here. We receive tones of questions and requests based on this. If this is not something you might like to watch simply ignore the link.
Thank you

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Dude why the fuck are you always linking to that one video? Stop spamming this shit.
I remember that video and it's a good one but from what I remember I can't really see the relevance to this situation.


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Dude why the fuck are you always linking to that one video? Stop spamming this shit.
I remember that video and it's a good one but from what I remember I can't really see the relevance to this situation.
Hello shotgunthehotone, how are you brother? I understand what you mean, saying that I would like to mention a few things:

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1 - I make the whole group laugh and, more importantly, made her laugh
2 - Day 3 everything is good, she pairs her self off with me in the classes. she is still flirting.
3 - Day 4 gets interesting, we're both outside smoking,
4 - Day 5 (today) Got to class fairly early, I chose a different seat..(I don't think I should have now!)
5 - I didn't want to come across as needy or clingy...
6 - and she avoided eye contact all day. That really knocked my confidence!
7 - and figure out what I did wrong.
8 - I need some help from you guys...any Ideas why she might have suddenly changed?
These are exactly the points the video focuses on.
1 - More importantly made her laugh... I assume poster understands the importance of humor but at the same time he is focusing on her. Probably waiting for her acknowledgment. As simple as it is, when meeting people for the first time, doing the tiniest wrong things after finishing the joke or statement could kill the attraction. (could be even looking at her for her approval, or to check if she liked my joke). The video explains how to continue with the story after you finish the joke.
It is critical not to care what she thinks. I can't stress enough how important this is. If there is one thing that keeps the attraction growing is this one. The poster can definitely improve in this area.
Day 3 she is still flirting. The poster has opportunity to escalate, they even go for smoke. The point to always remember (mentioned several time in the video), the window of opportunity opens for a very short time, you have to take your shot as soon as you can. Which in this case could be the smoking scenario or the day they were sitting next to each other in the class. Also the rest of the bullet points I mentioned above, they can easily be explained, understood and improved so the poster won't wonder "What did I do wrong!".

The point is most videos are not recorded for one specific scenario but, watching and doing something over and over makes in become habit and once good game is developed as a habits, it creates results.

Keep on the good work and increase your approaches

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