Rather than sit here and say I have some unreal opening line, I want to practice openers repeatedly until I master them.

For this, I want to buy a hidden recording device so I can replay every approach I do and pinpoint what was good/bad/etc.

Anyone else try this and thought it was a smart idea? Also, where can I find some type of recording device? I hope this doesn't sound creepy as I'm not secretly making sex tapes or anything, I just want to be able to critique my approaches until I have it mastered.

I figure your actual opening line is basically irrelevant, it's the next 2 mins of convo that is much more important.

Any tips on approaching (not openers) and where to find a recording device would be appreciated.

Thanks.

You should master closing, not opening.
As for ur question, I got no idea and I doub there is a mini cam or sth

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Great advice man. That's some next level shit right there. And what's the first step to closing? Opening.

When you're teaching a kid how to ride a bike, you give em training wheels. I'm fine at building comfort/rapport with women as I have no problem talking to them. However, I want to work on approaching and generating attraction. Not that I'm shy, I just figure it's a step to achieve my end goal (closing).

Historically, most of my success with women has been when I meet people through mutual friends. That's why I asked about improving my cold approaches.

Sorry for being a dick, but your reply was less than useless.

If your going to master pick up your going to need two tricks in the bag. First will be the observational opener when you make a comment about what you see. After opening her move into different subject matters, build rapport / comfort, then number close followed by a text afterwards so she has your number (also to make sure she isn't a flake). Next is the direct opener. If you search it you can find a million topics about it. Master it because it is by far the most useful / powerful opener you can do. If u can pull a direct opener off you are capable of doing anything in the pickup world. Real talk.

Now as far as improving your pickup you just need to go out and practice. The more you practice the more u will calibrate. Another tip is to do opener sets (about 3) to warm up your voice and get those brain juices flowing. Read up on some Approach Anxiety tips / Inner Game to help psych you up for your approaches.

As far as video taping it goes... it definitely isn't necessary. Unless you want to post videos on the internet i dont think you need this to improve your game. Granted you will see somethings but the money u will spend isn't worth it in my opinion. Bring a buddy along and have him analyze you! That works just as well. Good luck bro! Keep us posted.

Opening is really simple and does not need any practice if you understand that the purpose of an opening is to stop what they are doing and put attention to you...
No need for a good line, no need for good body language, no need for clear throat, just some courage to make them stop and turn their attention into you.

You can have the best line in the world... they will not pay attention to it... they are distracted thinking of something else so don't waste a good line and do not waste effort on mastering your opening.

Once their attention is on you... then a clear throat, a good line, a good body language might help.

To be good at anything requires practice...

mastering approaching is a waste of time

you should master at pulling, k-closing etc...

I see where you are coming from but if he doesn't have a good approach then he wont be able to master k close, f close or any of that good stuff.

Your post is a little contradictory. First, you say you want to practice openers, then you say they are irrelevant. But if that's your opinion, why would you want to practice them?

As for recording, I think this is a bad idea. What if you actually get past the opener, and she spots or feels that hidden recording device under your clothing? Also, I don't think it's very ethical to record conversations with people without them knowing; you're basically invading their privacy. You don't need a recording device anyway. Just pay attention to her facial expressions and body language when you say something to a girl, that will give you all the info you need. Plus, paying attention during rather than after the interaction, will give you the benefit of being able to adapt on the spot.

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