What happens if your routines, your attitude, your seduction made her want you, now that she wants you/wants to be your girl... Do these things just disappear? Is this why some people say Natural Game is better, because Natural Game is in it's essence... a part of you. Where as routines and all that is dare I say... Fake

Any opinions?

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"Everything you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it" - Gandhi

Natural game vs routine again. Hmm.

Look, both are extremely helpful. Natural game will work on your mindset. Your inner core beliefs which will in turn create "routines" of their own, because these will be beliefs you live by, and you will say these things over and over again because it is what you believe, and it is what you know.

Routines can be helpful too. But it is very important to know WHY a routine works, and this is where inner game/natural game comes in. You must understand why girls are attracted to a guy like this and not a guy like that, and then you will realize that these routines, put in that context, work because of nature itself.

Read everything you can. There are common threads within the Pickup world. David D, Mystery, Vin Dicarlo, Sinn, Tyler Durden, etc. are all saying the same core things. Just in different ways. Read and learn the core threads, and you will understand why routine vs natural isn't really a debate. Routines stem from natural game. Just read and go out.

Yeah I know what you mean. I'm actually in the spot where I've read a bunch of stuff from different PUA's. I used a few routines, confident, challenging, all the fun stuff. Now I have the girl (a difficult one at that) she's got a kid and she's not attached emotionally (yet)...

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"Everything you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it" - Gandhi

The best game of all will include both natural game and using some form of scripted material like routines, many people seem to separate the two and they will talk about using one or the other, you shouldn't listen to that because it is just limited thinking. I think Tr@veler explained it very well.

As far as keeping yourself in a good relationship good inner game is needed, have a good knowledge of attraction and apply that knowledge.

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"All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think, we become."
Guatama Buddha