First time poster here, having recently read 'The Game', probably like many other newbies!

Basically I'm a 19yo virgin who has never really been in a proper relationship, and although I feel I'm pretty confident around almost anyone I consistently fail to either pick up women when I'm out clubbing or during the day when I'm at University.

I've actually become really good friends with two hot girls (7s/8s) and as I said earlier, I have no problem really being 'friendly' with girls. I have a history of getting friend zoned but I actually enjoy the company of girls, I just want something deeper as well. I reckon I'm a decent looking guy, but I'm insecure because of my inexperience.

My main problem with the ideas of PUA is that I want to become a musician and I spend a lot of time practicing on my own and haven't started gigging yet. I want to maintain the amount of Uni work I do and the amount of time I spend practicing music and yet I'd like to enjoy the benefits of PUA.

Is it possible for me to achieve short-term benefits of PUA without putting LOADS of time in? Strauss talks about dedicating his life to it, but also how it impacted on his other life goals. I really don't want that to happen to me.

Any recommendations on books / theories that are easy + quick to impliment? I'd love to get a girlfriend but losing my virginity is obviously a priority too. I'm more interested in the idea of 'natural game' than 'peacocking' or magic tricks or anything like that.

Any help would be much appreciated! Cheers x

Try reading Gambler's Natural Game and 60YOC. Once you have read some theory, you need to go out and practice. Because you can't spend much time on PU you will probably improve at a slower rate - but you will probably still improve, so give it a shot!

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Failures are sign posts on the road to achievement.

Is is for you as long as you have fun doing it. I think with your music goals, your success will be higher then 90% of the guys who join the community as far as getting hotter girls goes. If I were you, I would focus more on your music goals then trying learn how to pick up girls.

Still try to learn how to game. Especially with your inexperience with women, key thing to focus on is not caring at all and accept the fact your gonna mess up with a lot of girls and move on without getting your feelings hurt. Just like with your music, I am sure you make a lot of mistakes, do it the same way with women and learn from it.

If you were like me, your friend zone trap is possibly a lack of kino, or being too available / a doormat. I agree that focusing on your music goals is great, having a passion is very attractive.

Read some material, realize what's holding you back, and be conscious of it. It's a long road, but don't be discouraged. Almost 1 year later here, and still consider myself an rAFC.... but I've noticed some vast improvements, and so do others. I give off this vibe now that my long time oneitis friend describes as "you act like you could have any girl you wanted"... if I only I'd discovered PUA before I met her! And mainly all I did was the above. Also helped my AA a lot.

Dude, focus on your band, focus on your studies, focus on what's gonna help you do what you want to do in life.

Giving everything up to persue this is bullsh*t, sorry. If some guys want to do it, sure, go ahead. But I read so many mPUAs talk about how they are so great because they are jobless and sleeping on someone's couch and still get more ass than some rich guy flashing his cash.

Sure, it might be true, but really, how is this gonna help you in life? Why not be the rich guy with the awesome personality in 10 years time.

You can do BOTH.

My advice:
Life your life and focus on what''s important. Surely you go out around the town, the mall, socialize, go to bars. Read up on PUA in your spare time and apply it when you can.
Use your lunchbreak to approach a couple of girls for an hour. If you're heading out with friends, don't do the usual sit in the corner, use that time to get out there and mingle.

You don't need to give up everything for it. That is for losers IMO.

For all the great teachings of the community, there is also some very shocking mentalities it instills in guys which aren't healthy at all. This being one of them.