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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:58 pm 
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Can y'all judge my text game and please no trolling. Here's the backstory. Met this girl at a club through a friend. I was white girl wasted. Literally blacked out that night. Last thing I remember was walking out the doors with her. I didn't pull a number from her. I honestly was too drunk I don't know how she stayed with me that night. A few days later I added her on Facebook and hesitantly sent her a FB message. We hit it off easy. Got her number and commenced text game. That was almost 2 months ago and I haven't seen her since I met her then.

Now you might be saying to yourself. "BeardlessSanta you're a dumbass, she's texting you to lead you on." But I don't think that's the case because she posts everything she does on Facebook, so when I ask her to hangout and she says she's busy she's not bullshitting; she actually is a busy girl. Anyway here it is:

Me: What r u doin
HB: sittin on my couch watching another movie wbu
Me: Wanna chill? I'm at a party, nothin big
HB: yeah but I have no make up on, not ready at all, and my couch would be really sad if I left it...
HB: haha for real though I'm not in the mood to drink at all
Me: Haha.. Your fine as fuck I don't think make up will matter
HB: haha okay whateve

I assumed her last text was an invitation to come over so I called her 30 min later to let her know I was about to leave but no answer.

Me: Damn girl I thought you said you were awake
HB: (15 min later) I kinda am
Me: I'm at my buddy's dorm, I was gonna come see you!
HB: no no. haha not right now
Me: Ur such a party pooper
HB: I am not. rudee. but today I am. just one if those days.
Me: Alrightyy

Could I have done anything different that would've maybe changed her mind? And keep in mind, she is constantly texting me. I almost never initiate text. She has asked me to come over a few times but I'm always busy. Please critique me this is the last conversation we had. Should I even waste my time with a girl who is this busy?


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I don't think you're really "wasting your time" with her because she's busy. If you think that, you're probably investing a little too much in her. Keep talking to her, and if you two are both lucky enough to be free at the same time, hang out with her and see how it goes. It's not looking overly promising though and her interest is probably moderate at best, so don't put all your eggs in this basket.

You wanted a critique of your text game, so here you go:

Me: What r u doin Boring. The goal is to make a girl get excited when she sees your name appear on her phone. This won't have that effect. Also, spell things out. "R" and "u" were fine back when texting was limited to 150 characters, but that's not the case anymore.
HB: sittin on my couch watching another movie wbu
Me: Wanna chill? I'm at a party, nothin big You're willing to leave your party if she agrees to hang out with you? That must be one shitty party, to sacrifice the companionship of so many people in exchange for only one girl.
HB: yeah but I have no make up on, not ready at all, and my couch would be really sad if I left it... Here come the excuses. I hope you have something locked and loaded that will excite her enough to get off her ass and get ready.
HB: haha for real though I'm not in the mood to drink at all She doesn't want to drink but she seems willing to put in a little effort if you think of something fun, as I said above.
Me: Haha.. Your fine as fuck I don't think make up will matter Nope, nothing fun to offer :(. By the way, "your" is possessive. It should be "you're". The more you know.
HB: haha okay whateve I'll admit, she really should have been a little more explicit with this one. I took that as an agreement to hang out with you also.

Good for you for calling her instead of relying on texting the entire time like a lot of other guys. Now for the next part:

Me: Damn girl I thought you said you were awake
HB: (15 min later) I kinda am
Me: I'm at my buddy's dorm, I was gonna come see you!
HB: no no. haha not right now
Me: Ur such a party pooper An improved way of saying this for next time would be something like "And here I thought you were fun. Time for me to find a new girlfriend."
HB: I am not. rudee. but today I am. just one if those days. I'm starting to wonder if she's PMSing.
Me: Alrightyy This could be improved with something like "Understandable. Have a good one then! ;)" to show that you aren't affected by this in any way.

To summarize, I would suggest that next time you have a more direct plan to do things with her other than "let's hang out". Have a place and time in mind. Something unique and fun. Also, try to be a little more playful with her.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:54 pm 
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Just make plans with her to hang out. There is no gaming required here. She already digs you.


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 Post subject: Re: Text Convo Help
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:23 am 
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Can y'all judge my text game and please no trolling. Here's the backstory. Met this girl at a club through a friend. I was white girl wasted. Literally blacked out that night. Last thing I remember was walking out the doors with her. I didn't pull a number from her. I honestly was too drunk I don't know how she stayed with me that night. A few days later I added her on Facebook and hesitantly sent her a FB message. We hit it off easy. Got her number and commenced text game. That was almost 2 months ago and I haven't seen her since I met her then.

Now you might be saying to yourself. "BeardlessSanta you're a dumbass, she's texting you to lead you on." But I don't think that's the case because she posts everything she does on Facebook, so when I ask her to hangout and she says she's busy she's not bullshitting; she actually is a busy girl. Anyway here it is:

Me: What r u doin
HB: sittin on my couch watching another movie wbu
Me: Wanna chill? I'm at a party, nothin big
HB: yeah but I have no make up on, not ready at all, and my couch would be really sad if I left it...
HB: haha for real though I'm not in the mood to drink at all
Me: Haha.. Your fine as fuck I don't think make up will matter
HB: haha okay whateve

I assumed her last text was an invitation to come over so I called her 30 min later to let her know I was about to leave but no answer.

Me: Damn girl I thought you said you were awake
HB: (15 min later) I kinda am
Me: I'm at my buddy's dorm, I was gonna come see you!
HB: no no. haha not right now
Me: Ur such a party pooper
HB: I am not. rudee. but today I am. just one if those days.
Me: Alrightyy

Could I have done anything different that would've maybe changed her mind? And keep in mind, she is constantly texting me. I almost never initiate text. She has asked me to come over a few times but I'm always busy. Please critique me this is the last conversation we had. Should I even waste my time with a girl who is this busy?
I like the advice snarg has given you. He's probably had some experience.

The only thing I don't like in your text that he overlooked is "you're fine as fuck" I'm of the opinion women lose respect for men when they compliment their beauty. Of course she likes hearing it, but it's a subliminal thing. It's something all guys are telling her and deep down it bores her. For instance, I know I'm a hot dude and i don't like women telling me I'm hot, it's annoying. It's also a little risky to use that kind of foul language .Some women don't like foul language.


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I agree. Not only that, but there's also an element of chivalry there that is lost when you tell a woman she's "hot" or whatever other synonym you can think of. Telling her she's beautiful is a lot better than calling her sexy or fine.


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I don't think you're really "wasting your time" with her because she's busy. If you think that, you're probably investing a little too much in her. Keep talking to her, and if you two are both lucky enough to be free at the same time, hang out with her and see how it goes. It's not looking overly promising though and her interest is probably moderate at best, so don't put all your eggs in this basket.

You wanted a critique of your text game, so here you go:

Me: What r u doin Boring. The goal is to make a girl get excited when she sees your name appear on her phone. This won't have that effect. Also, spell things out. "R" and "u" were fine back when texting was limited to 150 characters, but that's not the case anymore.
HB: sittin on my couch watching another movie wbu
Me: Wanna chill? I'm at a party, nothin big You're willing to leave your party if she agrees to hang out with you? That must be one shitty party, to sacrifice the companionship of so many people in exchange for only one girl.
HB: yeah but I have no make up on, not ready at all, and my couch would be really sad if I left it... Here come the excuses. I hope you have something locked and loaded that will excite her enough to get off her ass and get ready.
HB: haha for real though I'm not in the mood to drink at all She doesn't want to drink but she seems willing to put in a little effort if you think of something fun, as I said above.
Me: Haha.. Your fine as fuck I don't think make up will matter Nope, nothing fun to offer :(. By the way, "your" is possessive. It should be "you're". The more you know.
HB: haha okay whateve I'll admit, she really should have been a little more explicit with this one. I took that as an agreement to hang out with you also.

Good for you for calling her instead of relying on texting the entire time like a lot of other guys. Now for the next part:

Me: Damn girl I thought you said you were awake
HB: (15 min later) I kinda am
Me: I'm at my buddy's dorm, I was gonna come see you!
HB: no no. haha not right now
Me: Ur such a party pooper An improved way of saying this for next time would be something like "And here I thought you were fun. Time for me to find a new girlfriend."
HB: I am not. rudee. but today I am. just one if those days. I'm starting to wonder if she's PMSing.
Me: Alrightyy This could be improved with something like "Understandable. Have a good one then! ;)" to show that you aren't affected by this in any way.

To summarize, I would suggest that next time you have a more direct plan to do things with her other than "let's hang out". Have a place and time in mind. Something unique and fun. Also, try to be a little more playful with her.
Yeah I get what you're sayin, I'm just bein a lazy texter. The cops busted this party I was at last night and I had told her and she replied with "Maybe you shouldn't hangout with babies." I don't know what she is implying here because I'm the same age as everyone who was at the party (18.). She's a few years older than me as well if that helps (22). I just told her "quit talkin shit chica". I was drunk by that point and it was really late so she didn't reply back.


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 Post subject: Re: Text Convo Help
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:30 pm 
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Can y'all judge my text game and please no trolling. Here's the backstory. Met this girl at a club through a friend. I was white girl wasted. Literally blacked out that night. Last thing I remember was walking out the doors with her. I didn't pull a number from her. I honestly was too drunk I don't know how she stayed with me that night. A few days later I added her on Facebook and hesitantly sent her a FB message. We hit it off easy. Got her number and commenced text game. That was almost 2 months ago and I haven't seen her since I met her then.

Now you might be saying to yourself. "BeardlessSanta you're a dumbass, she's texting you to lead you on." But I don't think that's the case because she posts everything she does on Facebook, so when I ask her to hangout and she says she's busy she's not bullshitting; she actually is a busy girl. Anyway here it is:

Me: What r u doin
HB: sittin on my couch watching another movie wbu
Me: Wanna chill? I'm at a party, nothin big
HB: yeah but I have no make up on, not ready at all, and my couch would be really sad if I left it...
HB: haha for real though I'm not in the mood to drink at all
Me: Haha.. Your fine as fuck I don't think make up will matter
HB: haha okay whateve

I assumed her last text was an invitation to come over so I called her 30 min later to let her know I was about to leave but no answer.

Me: Damn girl I thought you said you were awake
HB: (15 min later) I kinda am
Me: I'm at my buddy's dorm, I was gonna come see you!
HB: no no. haha not right now
Me: Ur such a party pooper
HB: I am not. rudee. but today I am. just one if those days.
Me: Alrightyy

Could I have done anything different that would've maybe changed her mind? And keep in mind, she is constantly texting me. I almost never initiate text. She has asked me to come over a few times but I'm always busy. Please critique me this is the last conversation we had. Should I even waste my time with a girl who is this busy?
I like the advice snarg has given you. He's probably had some experience.

The only thing I don't like in your text that he overlooked is "you're fine as fuck" I'm of the opinion women lose respect for men when they compliment their beauty. Of course she likes hearing it, but it's a subliminal thing. It's something all guys are telling her and deep down it bores her. For instance, I know I'm a hot dude and i don't like women telling me I'm hot, it's annoying. It's also a little risky to use that kind of foul language .Some women don't like foul language.
You say deep down those comments bore her. Then what would you recommend because honestly that's the first time I've told her she is "fine as fuck". Sometimes I'll text her "hey pretty girl" or somethin along those lines.


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I gave you a few examples. Ultimately you need to be the one to spice things up as it fits with your personality.

"Hey pretty girl" is MUCH better, by the way.


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I gave you a few examples. Ultimately you need to be the one to spice things up as it fits with your personality.

"Hey pretty girl" is MUCH better, by the way.
Thanks I appreciate the constructive criticism. Will definitely use your advice!


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Ohh I have one more question, it's texting game so no point in making another thread. This other girl that's trying to talk to me texts me soo much. Her texts are like paragraphs so mine end up being really long to. I don't like texting like that, I feel like that should be done over the phone or in person and texting should be for light fluff talk/meet ups. So what do you guys do in this situation? Tell her you gotta go? Call her? She's cool and all I just don't like texting her at all. In fact I don't think I am enjoying it as much as I could because she comes on soooo strong.. Any advice?


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 Post subject: Re: Text Convo Help
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:23 am 
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Me: What r u doin
HB: sittin on my couch watching another movie wbu
Me: Wanna chill? I'm at a party, nothin big
HB: yeah but I have no make up on, not ready at all, and my couch would be really sad if I left it...
HB: haha for real though I'm not in the mood to drink at all
PUA:i actually didnt get a chance to put my make up on either, but im not making any excuses!
HB: haha ok ill see you soon
or...
HB: haha youre funny but i really dont feel like going out tonight, sorry!
PUA: well i hope that couch is SUPER comfy, cause youre missing out. enjoy your movie loner ;)
definitely do not contact her for the rest of the night if she shoots you down at this stage as that would show neediness/desperation

Me: Haha.. Your fine as fuck I don't think make up will matter

this is just :shock:

if you want to say something like that you could have gone with something like...
PUA: thats okay! its pretty dark in here anyway so no one will notice ;)

playful, but still insinuating that you find her attractive with the wink face, but not so direct and complimentary to make her view you as just another afc

also, as others said, most girls will not take "fine as fuck" as a very great compliment

on top of that, dont say youre at a party then say its "nothing big" !! should be pretty obvious why. why should she come to a party you dont even think is that fun? if you are trying to say its low key and not a crazy frat party you could have said somehting like...

PUA: im at a party, but were not getting too crazy tonight just a couple drinks with friends. you should come hang out with us

and last thing i would avoid asking "wanna chill?" try to avoid questions, say "we should" or "lets" be the man and guide her, tell her what she should do, dont ask permission!


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I can't explain how much I agree with you. My game has been so off lately...I don't know why, but it's making me sound super AFC. You're suggestions perfectly fit my personality. I normally incorporate the 'we should' and not 'wanna (insert thing)?' To be real, I was desperate for some 'gina that night.. :oops:.


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I can't explain how much I agree with you. My game has been so off lately...I don't know why, but it's making me sound super AFC. You're suggestions perfectly fit my personality. I normally incorporate the 'we should' and not 'wanna (insert thing)?' To be real, I was desperate for some 'gina that night.. :oops:.
im glad i could help then. and hey, at least you realize you were desperate, dont show that shit man, you know better.

realize your mistakes, analyze your mistakes, fix those mistakes.


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 Post subject: Re: Text Convo Help
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:18 am 
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Can y'all judge my text game and please no trolling. Here's the backstory. Met this girl at a club through a friend. I was white girl wasted. Literally blacked out that night. Last thing I remember was walking out the doors with her. I didn't pull a number from her. I honestly was too drunk I don't know how she stayed with me that night. A few days later I added her on Facebook and hesitantly sent her a FB message. We hit it off easy. Got her number and commenced text game. That was almost 2 months ago and I haven't seen her since I met her then.
OK, so rapport now, CHECK

when a girl knows you, and thinks you are awesome... time to stop hitting her up, and let her hit you up, that means no more rapport, not more texting her up for chit chats, unless you

DUN DADA DUN..... want to meet her, also
calling > texting

but girls love texting and when they are all WHO IS THIS MYSTERIOUS HOT MAN WHO WAS ALL INTO ME? they tend to text you and ask you questions and try to ''chit chat'' do your best to keep the suspense and minimize the duration of these ''chit chats''
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Now you might be saying to yourself. "BeardlessSanta you're a dumbass, she's texting you to lead you on." But I don't think that's the case because she posts everything she does on Facebook, so when I ask her to hangout and she says she's busy she's not bullshitting; she actually is a busy girl. Anyway here it is:
she's texting you, so that's good, you get texted cause she likes texting, if a girl is communicating with you, she probably values your attention, or is at the very least bored and has rapport with you (and no one else is texting her back)

she's a busy girl... well, getting her out will take some value then... won't it, or she is just too busy busy and important to be bothered now, she can just text instead (but wait pumpy, what was that about not being as available to text with her again and calling instead to get her out?)

^ ohh that's right me, calling > texting
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Me: What r u doin
HB: sittin on my couch watching another movie wbu
Me: Wanna chill? I'm at a party, nothin big
HB: yeah but I have no make up on, not ready at all, and my couch would be really sad if I left it...
HB: haha for real though I'm not in the mood to drink at all
Me: Haha.. Your fine as fuck I don't think make up will matter
HB: haha okay whateve
so instead of some crazy over analysis on this, lets just go through the format of an invite to create value for a busy girl instead, if she is young (like 18-24), and assuming you are young, then the point that is fun to get accross is indifference, benefit for her, no cost on her end (so, something fun, she doesn't have to do anything to get that), you sort of have to guage what she is like though and stay congruent with your own personality, here is something that might be shot out to a girl if it was me

so for example,
instead of what you doing? (already trying to get cause it's leading into I WANT SOMETHING)

you just do something retarded to get her attention... and since you are at a party,

''AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, CRAZY!!! PARTYPARTYPARTYDRUNKDRUNKDRUNK GET DRUUUUUUNKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!''

then expect her to do one of three things

become confused, ....?? or what?

become excited, OH YOU!! BLAH BLAH BLAH HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA YA!!

not be amused, (doesn't answer), or gets mad for some reason ''FUCK YOU! BLAH BLAH BLAH 3AM, STFU, LOSE MY NUMBER''

so after the retarded non needy opener to ping her for interest in your thread, you follow like this,

''THIS PARTY IS SICK, COME HERE, PARTY TIME!! LETS DO IT!!''

then if she isn't that interested you will get excuses so she can flake
such as:

HB: yeah but I have no make up on, not ready at all, and my couch would be really sad if I left it...

or

HB: but I can't blah blah blah grandma sick, and my cat and blah blah sorry, but I can't and blah blah

so how do you respond?

you: ohhhhh shit, NVM stay home, no one wants to see your face without makeup.... hahahahahahaha get drunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

or for #2

you: HAHAHA SO GAY, HAVE FUN WITH YOUR GRANDMA SUCKER


and if you get something like

HB: haha for real though I'm not in the mood to drink at all

you: what are you in the mood for?
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I assumed her last text was an invitation to come over so I called her 30 min later to let her know I was about to leave but no answer.
WAT? looks more like a flake
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Me: Damn girl I thought you said you were awake
HB: (15 min later) I kinda am
Me: I'm at my buddy's dorm, I was gonna come see you!
HB: no no. haha not right now
Me: Ur such a party pooper
HB: I am not. rudee. but today I am. just one if those days.
Me: Alrightyy
stop texting girls man, this is sort of weird, and makes you look needy,

step 1) pick up phone
step 2) dial numbers
step 3) speak with words

the way your text convo reads to me, is probably how she read this (you were inviting her to the party and she flaked the invite)

the context from the post you give, from the later text is that you invited yourself over to her house, and she confirmed she was awake, but this wasn't clear by your initial text, you were like

WANNA CHILL? IM AT A PARTY! IT SUCKS! = im at a shitty party, want to come to this shitty party?

and she's like haha... well you seee, makeup and hahaha no

then you make yourself look weird to her after she flakes it, you call her after, she doesn't answer, so what's the solution you came to after she flakes you then doesn't answer her phone for you,

you start texting her, with this, PLEASE RESPOND shit
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Could I have done anything different that would've maybe changed her mind? And keep in mind, she is constantly texting me. I almost never initiate text. She has asked me to come over a few times but I'm always busy. Please critique me this is the last conversation we had. Should I even waste my time with a girl who is this busy?
you could have been incredibly better looking, had a huger dong, way cooler, had a much better party that she already wanted to be at, been more clear, texted her less cause homie don't play that, call her more instead of texting, go see her when she invites you over and get naked, meet more girls so you care less about the one that doesn't want to do something on friday (or what ever XYZ day it is)

on a more frame related note, you framed her as important, and what you were doing as shitty and gay, you should switch those two elements up, what you are doing is amazing and important and it is where the value is, and what she is doing is not fun and it is where the value is lacking, girls want to go where there is more value, frame control is your tool to do this, that's why there is a difference between

''you wanna grab a coffee with me at starbucks? I know it sucks, and the coffee is shit, but there's nothing better to do and I'm bored''

and

''OMG, YOOOO, there is this crazy new coffee shop on 15ave... IT'S BANANA'S GIRL.... B-A-N-A-N-A-S, like they put coconut shavings and chocolate on your coffees, and hand out free stuff, and the banana bread.... DUDE.....instant drooling effect for certain, this place is REDIC, REE-DICK, it's crazy, we must go for perfect coffees NOW, *p.s. would go alone but short on funds and need you to buy me coffee, NEED YOU TOO, IT'S LIKE CRACK''

should you waste time with a girl who is busy? what was she busy with? sitting on her couch blowing you off?

sounds like a time waster to add to the pile of I DON'T CARE, if you are doing fun stuff with your friends, hit her up with, GOING TO BLAH BLAH BLAH TONIGHT, COME OUT IF YOU NOT SCURRRD

then when she flakes you can just be like... OHHH YOU SCURRRD!! afraid much?

eventually thought a girl who never wants to come out, will want to come out less especially if you invite her out with frequency and she rejects the offer with frequency it makes you look needy as if you don't have too much going on and she is more important than you, better to have her interested in what you are doing and you to just be like, ''you can come ;)''

then to be like, uhhh, you see.. there is this special event, and it would mean the world to me if you were to join me... it's only until 2, and I can buy you flowers, and pick you up, and I'll massage your feet, and please come, are you there? PLEASE RESPOND, *calls her, no answer* *texts her again* PLEASE RESPOND


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 Post subject: Re: Text Convo Help
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:48 pm 
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should you waste time with a girl who is busy? what was she busy with? sitting on her couch blowing you off?

Well here's another part to the story: She is in a top sorority at her Uni. When I first met her, she had been revisiting her hometown almost every weekend (only time I'm free between work and school as well) for various reason (friend's baby, grandparent death, etc.). She told me a few weeks ago, "You just caught me at a bad time and I am normally not this busy! I'm afraid you won't wanna hangout with me anymore, but I really wanna hang out with you!". And she told me last Friday that her plans to go out of town were cancelled with a :). So I thought it was pretty obvious she really wanted to spend some time with me. This was a day before all of the needy bullshit by the way. Hence why I was a little confused she flaked.. Here's that convo:

HB: Not going to xxx! :)
Me: Awesome why's that?
HB: Just fell through, blah blah blah
Me: Wht a bummer, are you coming to the river with me Friday night? (I realize I should have "told" her she was coming, but I already asked her to do that and since she said she was free I reminded her of the opportunity to hangout with me)
HB: umm what's Friday?
Me: me and a few friends were gonna head out there blah blah blah (she obviously didn't remember)
HB: all day?
Me: Well work, and then in the afternoon we'd head out there. I might just go fishin and drink a few brews if your down for that
HB: okay when do you get off?
Me: x:00 on the dot, I can pick you up or we can meet somewhere
HB: hmm.. not really sure what your getting me into
Me: A whole heep of fun
HB: fishing and drinking?
Me: you must not know how to have a good time woman, what do you do for fun
HB: omg I do to I was just asking like if that's what we were doing..

Then like 5 hours later she replies with "I'll go tomorrow"

She ended saying "omg omg I'm so sorry but I have a (sorority) sister's bday to go to. You are definitely invited though!! :).
So I was like "how do you forget something like tht! I'll let you know if I decide to come. I was havin a good time with my bros so I decided not to come.

So the next day I figured she would've wanted to hangout seeing that she was giving me so many IOIs the day before. But oh well I guess I'll just wait till she texts me again or I am actually guaranteed to see her in two weeks. Football Rivalry. Gonna be siiickkkk.

Thanks again people. I love the constructive criticism!!![/quote]


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