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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:49 pm 
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So I have this girl that I have been hanging out with for a little over a month but I have known here for about 5 months. We went 4 months this summer talking on the phone a few times a week because I was gone for work but we really hit it off before I left. Since I have been back we have been together a lot and she really wants to make it work. She says she is a very sexual person but I think she is kinda shallow. I am not a bad looking guy and have not had a problem with this before. She is open about how she is not attracted to me sexually. She says I would be gone if I was not the best guy she ever dated. This is making things really difficult between us.

I always amaze her with the activities I plan and she loves that but the problem was I am just too easy going. I was indecisive about what I wanted to do and left decisions up to her which is not an attractive characteristic. I need to be more firm and make more decisions about what we are going to do on a regular basis not just on our dates that I plan. We took went up my cabin for five days and have been having a great time. Nothing sexual has happened yet on the trip though which is not good. However she just got her period yesterday which throws a wrench in the pan for this trip. We just have one more night to go.

Here is what I am thinking to build attraction with her. When I got home from the summer she gave me her apartment key and told me I could leave some things at her place. I have a toothbrush, some contacts a few other things but that is about it. Tomorrow when I drop her off I am going to give her the key back. I understand that it could backfire so here is where I need some advice. What do I say. I am thinking that I tell her that I am done sleeping at her place for a while but I am still going to be taking her out. I need to seem like I am pushing her away but still seem interested. I need to make her miss having me around. I also think I need to show her that other girls desire me. I told her about a friend who is really cute that I always get together with when I come home for the off seasons. I told her I usually get lunch or dinner with her so when this other girl and I get together I wan to take a photo of us and throw it up on facebook showing that we are having a good time. The girl I am somewhat seeing now will definitely see it and get jealous because my friend is really hot. Is that a good move? I am also planning on taking the girl I am after on some really fun non-typical dates. I am really good at coming up with those.

Anyone have input on my plan? I am really having fun strategizing this but I need help.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:25 pm 
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Have you slept with her yet?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:27 pm 
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Yeah I sleep in the same bed with her often and fucked her once before I left on a two week trip three weeks ago to go photograph polar bears. I think she is attracted to my lifestyle but I am having a hard time getting her attracted to me.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:42 pm 
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This reminds me of an older woman I was seeing and having fun with for the most part. I was, basically, her fuck buddy but she always wanted more and didn't want me seeing other people which was grand seeing as I was getting laid every night and if I had no luck in a pub or club that night i'd just go back to her place, have sex, breakfast in the morning and a lift home. Sweet deal until I allowed myself to get involved with her. This chick had a lot of baggage. I mean the kind where she was still very much talking to the ex husband(Literally fucking with his head 24/7) and basically grafting onto other friends to do more exotic things like go skiing.

Anyway, she had a rich friend who was an ex from years past, someone she had zero interest in apart from his money and how she could freely go skiing with the guy or whatever. You see what i'm getting at here? She was taking Mr.Moneybaggs for a ride(And this isn't a sexual innuendo). She was literally taking advantage of the guy because he was so rich he could buy her cars, pay for her fucking rent(Which he actually did!) and go skiing with. Infact, she had him move in with her when she moved places because he was getting his house renovated or something. All the while she was leading this guy around she was fucking me. She kept telling him she wasn't interested in him in that way and she even slept with him at the beginning of the summer(When I ended it with her) because she was lonely and it was his birthday.

Honestly, I think she's taking you for a ride but this is just the one experience i've had but it sure as hell sounds like she's playing you.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:56 pm 
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Yeah I do not think that she is just playing me. She thinks about me all the time when I am gone and she doesn't really do much other than with me. When I was gone for the trip she wrote letters for me to read when I got back so I would not miss anything. I do not take her on the trips, yet. And I would not pay for her when I go on them. I need advice on my plans for building attraction with her because I really want this to work and it sounds like she does to. I need a sound game plan. She would be the perfect woman to travel with. She is adventurous, fun, and definitely upfront about everything. I do not think she is holding anything back just because of the amount of time we spend together. She went out while I was gone and a guy asked for her number who she said was "Hot" but he did not get it. I know because she was out with my best friend who is a girl and she told me the same story. My friend would not lie to me and the two girls are getting pretty close. I would hear from my friend if something bad was going on. Thanks for the advice on that but any advice on my plan?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:32 pm 
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I dunno man, I think you're wasting your time there and her friend backing up her story means squat. Women will back women up and rationalise lying to a man as "protecting him from the truth" and what not.

My suggestion though would be to go out with her for a night out, go back to hers and get in bed with her as you normally would and try initiate sex with her. You'll know exactly what she wants from you in that moment. Either she's up for it or isn't. Atleast you'll have your answer then. You should know straight up if it's LMR or if she genuinely isn't interested in having sex with you.

While lying on the bed with her(Don't wait for her to get in her pjs -- and if she normally wears pjs get rid of her. Women who sleep naked are so much better in bed! ;) ) start off talking to her about the night or something you can joke about, turn towards her(Her on her side towards you is a good sign) and smile while joking. If she's looking at you in an inviting way just go for a kiss. She should return it then simply turn her on her back while kissing her, slowly caress her stomach and side(Just above the hip) and move your hand around that area slightly. She'll give you signals then just go for it, slide a hand up to her breast, taking her breast out and while you're doing this bring your other hand to the back of her head and start kissing the side of her neck(Which ever is more comfortable to kiss). This'll drive her nuts then you can start moving from her neck to her chest and let the rest fall into place. You'll know when you go to kiss her what she wants. She'll either stop right out or return the kiss or she'll resist but seek it.

Women want sex. Women enjoy sex just as much as men. If you're laying in bed next to her on the regular and you're both sleeping then, to me, there's nothing between you. Any woman i've slept beside in a bed has not been able to keep her hands off me. It's not because i'm a sex god or the most sexy guy around(I'm not, i'm actually a plain looking guy) it's because there's been chemistry between us and excitement, excitement that no matter how long i've been fucking them it's always on even if i've stayed with them for a week or two. If you're in a position where a woman can go to sleep in the same bed as you time and time again without seeking some sort of sexual encounter or even a kiss then there's no passion for sex there and all relationships, at their core, revolve around sex. If you don't have that sexual excitement you won't have a relationship.

If she's not into it I'd move on, use her as arm candy in clubs and continue the friendship. Maybe then in a couple of months she'll see you in a different light when she sees you getting the attention of other women.

At the end of the day you've built rapport with her, you've DHV'ed(She's enamoured by your lifestyle) so all that's left is the sexual component.

Women want sex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... l7rc#t=59s


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