Lately, my inability to pull is frustrating the hell out of me. Get a girls number, no problem, kiss a girl, no problem. My friends also pressure the hell out of me, but the lads would be described as being game but they are not really approachable to talk stuff about this.

Here is the situation, I can always kiss a girl in the club get her number and what not but never take her home and fuck her. Two nights ago, I spend all night with a girl, getting with her, we walked back to our Uni accommodation and nothing happened. A few nights before that I thought I’d pulled but no, we were both lying in bed with just our underwear on and no fuck.

I don’t know where I am going wrong to be fair just lately, its either I lose her at the end of the night or we just end up falling asleep together in bed which has happened a lot just recently thus me ending up billy blue balls.

Appreciate some general advice or thoughts.

here are some ideas


actually find out what the LOGISTICS are - this should solve the can't take her home and fuck her part, find out if you can or can't logistically manage this sooner then later, if she is not available for that, don't waste time sitting with her and chatting, just make a quick chat, get a number and move on, go for a more shotgun style approach in the clubs, less focus on specifics, more talking to tons of people, testing for girls that are compliant and interested, and if you are looking to get laid that night, then LOGISTICS should be your absolute top priority, before even connecting with people

if the logistics are there:

-get more naked then her, if you are in underwear, take it off, let her follow, you go 1st, she's going to see your junk anyways if you plan to close

-got a hardon and have her home alone making out? put her hand on your penis and help her out with what to do with it

-arouse her more,
build more tension, if you are comming on strong and aggressive and going more more more and that is not working for you, back off, let her anticipate what is to come, build it up, escalate, a little work, then back off, then go a little further, keep her anticipating she could be fucked at any second but unable to guess when or what's next

-having more trust from her (future projections, non judgement, discression, std free, won't fall in love/not desperate)

Logisitcs. You should definitely have a plan about how you will get her home and what you will do to hook up with her. Particularly, in these situations guys get nervous because they are worrying aobut what they girl wants. Do she want sex or does she not and then as you are waiting for permission that you won't get things get awkward and she wants to get away from that awkwardness. Game Over.

Some good points pumpington! I guess sometimes, I am a tad too drunk to think about that in hindsight. Although, When I go to a club we go out in a large group and generally stay in one club. I'm a wonder in clubs, my friends always moan as soon as I get there they never see me, I should start going to more than one club though.

Know you told have me think about getting her home though; I think I would properly be over thinking the situation while I just like to go with the flow.

Sometimes the flow is taking you in the wrong direction.

well as long as you are enjoying the process dude, then that's really all that matters, if you don't care about getting laid that night, and have fun, then that's a V for the night

also, if you find you are going off solo all the time to open girls and get numbers and makeouts, and your friends are starting to miss you, you could do a few things

-take a buddy with you, play a game for drinks where you give each other opening tasks for drinks, and if the task is completed you buy him a drink, and take turns vice versa (stuff like, trying to open a girl by singing her a disney song, or kissing a girl in under 5 minutes, doing something that will look stupid and embarassing, just anything you can think of that would be funny to see, and you can turn it into a less serious thing and more of a game)

-when you open sets if you are alone, take girls with you and introduce them to your friends, try to hook your friends up with girls to chat with soo you can all hang out together (this can help you occupy friends too if dealing with 2sets)

also, after you do screen for logistics a few times, it doesn't take much thought or anything, it's a pretty simple process

-how do you are know each other (group to find out boyfriend/girlfriend situations)
-what are you doing later?
-what brings you out? / you have work tommorow?

other then that, isolate her, get her to move with you, if she won't move 2 feet away from her friends or come outside for a smoke with you, she probably won't move 2 miles away and come outside to go home with you either

and pay attention to the size of the group, the more friends she has with her, the more chance she won't be up for going home at the risk of being judged as a slut by her friends (so either win over the friends, or she has to be attracted enough that she doesn't give a fuck, and if she DGAF then watch out for jealous friends trying to cockblock)

^that is really all screening for logistics is

when you have these girls in your bed in their underwear do you make a move? You havent said if you do or not. To be honest I do not think a random girl goes home with a guy, gets into his bed and doesn't not expect that he will make a move, regardless if she is up for it or not. She is not going to go all funny on you trust me, she will be expecting it.

What I would do is keep the escalating, kissing etc going all the way home and as soon as you get inside the house etc. This was when you lead her to the bedroom it will be a continuation of what is already happening and you can naturally lead to sex or at least more foreplay etc.

Just don't let the mood drop for too long or she might think you arent that interested in sex with her. I very much doubt at the time she makes the decision to come home with a guy she's just met she thinks to herself that all she is going to do in lay there in her underwear. She might as well go home..

Good luck mate

One last question, I think I have lost my confidence also as 3 weeks ago in a club I got knocked out for no reason. Admittedly I was drunk, but if a girl starts kissing me and her boyfriend happens to be in the same club how am I suppose to know. So, I went to the toilet and upon coming out he came up to me and hit me out of nowhere.

Yeah of course, when it last time happened she text me to come down to her room at 4am(prior at 11am we were getting of with each other at a flat party) both in our underwear and bang, she hits me with we are not fucking tonight, some other time. Wake up in the morning and she is like you need to text me ectt...

Girls always pull the "we are not fking tonight" card.
I do this every time and it works every time so far. When they say "Oh I had not intention of fucking you tonight" Make it sound legit but smooth, as if they put the idea of fucking out there not you. Then continue to kiss them and very slightly escalate. She will say again "we are not fucking you know?" again say "Yes I know, Im just kissing you" and keep doing it. She will probably say this a few more times and keeping telling her you weren't or aren't going to. A lot of the time girls say this because they don't want to be used for sex or seem like a slut. When you do this you make her feel like you aren't treating her like a slut and that you wont just dump her the next day (whether you do or not). She will then let her guard down and the next thing you'll find you'll be fking her. It has worked for me every single time, without fail... I guess it works a bit like the whole, show little interest and she'll wonder why and want to work for it.

Listen dude i recommend you follow my club game post and youtube videos on approaching and opening section, second try to eliminate the drinking, if you drink just a bit to losen up, but you do not need the drinking. You know to work on your escalation and arousal laying in bed without fucking has to be really horrible game, again try to get rid of drinking.

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