I'm gonna make this short and to the point.

I get girls. It isn't hard for me, and i have been effectively doing so for some time now and have come to the realization that i have gained nothing. I have spent 2 years learning "the game" and now i'm a fucking stud with women, and yet it feels like i am still emotionally hollow.

Girls that i would potentially accept as my girlfriend dont trust their emotions in my hands. I have gained a reputation such that if i persist on the way i am living, i will never grow.

I guess i'm pretty much trying to say i can get girls, but can't get a girlfriend. Odd... i know...

I would recomend to those that are trying to get in this to realize this life is not what it is cracked up to be. Yes there have been some cool, fun times, but at the end of the day, I am still alone.

sorry for the potential downer that may have caused btw...

You have a fucked up frame bro. You sound like a vapid womanizer. Who would want that as a boyfriend?

Every pua has a different personality, just like all people in general. Some are great boyfriend material, some not so much. If you want to be a good boyfriend then you need to work on that specifically. Pick up is ONLY about how to get women to sleep with you. It speaks nothing on how to maintain a healthy relationship with a woman. That would be a venusian artist. Big difference.

I got a girl now who wants to be my gf. But I still go out sarging and meeting new girls. I'm not the best at pick up, nor am I the best boyfriend in the world. But the point is that I can do both if I really want to. And I can continue to improve at both if I choose to as well.

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There's a distinct difference between being a pua artist and being a person a woman wants.

If PUA works at all it works on impulse and spontaneity. Relationships dont work like that at all.

So, you're right it's a shallow life. It's also a fake life. If your life is all about how to pick up women, once you pick them up, then what do you do, and what do they do with you? fucking only lasts half hour or so. Still 23 1/4 hours in the day.

So really the thing to work on is yourself. Work on being an interesting person, learn conversation skills. develop other areas of your life. Learn what people like in other people and try to become that

In the end I dont think it's the sex us guys want, we want women to admire us, and to think were handsome and cool, and for them to want to be with us.

Most PUA is centered around getting the sex. Sex can be gotten by paying for it too.

it's not the sex then is it? It's the need to be wanted.

You doing good. What you got is confidence. You applied yourself to women and you succeed. Now that should give you confidence that you will succeed with other things. Go get it.

thanks for the advice guys. my next endeavor should be to get good at being a boyfriend. where do i learn how to do that?

Limiting belief, and lack of skills... Let me clarify, you can get women, but you can not keep women (another skill all together), you have not master the game yet, let me ask you a question are you doing mm? or something similar?


Second, if you are really good at this, girls should be lining up and competing to be your gf, so you may not be as good as you think you are. Again i wonder if you are doing mm or a variation.

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You learn to be a good boyfriend by actually being in a relationship. I know, its a bit of a catch 22, but this is the only way I learned. I couldnt apply alot of things from pick up to my relationship because itll only take you so far. Yes, PUA creates attractions but you have to maintain attraction, that feeling, that spark, & care for that person. And this is stuff PU just can't teach and something you can read from some guru, but something you must learn yourself.

@skills360 In writing my response to why your point is invalid, i stumbled upon the answer to my problem. so thanks in a way lol. also, i don't do scripted pickup or anything. reading this shit mainly just explained female psychology and made me sack up and go learn how to get girls from experience. so i have no idea what mm is. please explain so i can answer your question

@smiley Thanks for your input. your probably right, i was just seeing if anyone could put into words how i do this.

Mystery Method "The game" what is the answer to your problem, you can not keep a girl??? If you can not keep a girl is cause there may be something wrong, it is easy to find a girl, it is hard to keep a girl, now keeping a girl happy a mission. I was not trying to put you down, just to point out, that just like opening, transitioning, closing etc... are different skills, the same with getting a girl, keeping a girl, and having a relationship all different types of skill sets.

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Most times when people ask for advice, they dont really want advice, they want a pat on the back, thats what alot people here give is a pick me up.

So you're on the right track. You seem to be finding your own answers, it's different for everyone.

MM=Mystery Method, a bunch of horseshit where people wear creepy peacocking hats, work their way into a group of women and try to start conversations with women....

Then they ignore the woman they want, and give negs, playful insults to make the woman think they are not phased by her beauty.

Then once you have their attention you slowly look for IOI indicators of interest, something that shows shes attracted to you like her twirling her hair.

Then you run through various levels of attraction trying to increase her desire for you finally ending up screwing.

I know tons of guys who dont do anything, and they get plenty of woomen. If you just become more social, women will respond to you.

Keeping a woman, is more figuring out what the woman needs. Remember, when u want a woman to be your girlfriend, you are asking here to alter her life. Shes single, now u want her to be with you, thats a huge lifestyle change.

It has to be worth her while.

Theres a good book called love tactics which doesnt deal with pua shit, but deals with what women need in a realtionship.

Mainly be a good listener.

Good Luck

PUA didn't fuck you up, you did.

You're like the guy who takes steroids and then has all kinds of emotionally problems and blames it on steroids. The problem was not steroids, it was him.

This is what I'm getting from your short story. You weren't happy. You joined PUA in hopes to make you happy. You don't have a g/f so you're still not happy.

If you were a happy person before hopping on the PUA wagon, you would be satisfied... trust.

Well of course people think PUA will make them happy, thats why they do it. Thats why it makes so much money.

The miserable guy who is socially inept and cant relate to girls, gets into pua, and is so happy, or so the advertisements go.

If you were happy you wouldnt try pua, because it wouldnt matter.

There has to be something lacking to try pua.

Lacking females. Wanting to get laid. Ring a bell?

They're plenty of happy people who want the above AND ARE HAPPY. (e.g., they are not getting laid left and right) This person joining PUA is the ideal candidate, not the emotionally screwed person joining PUA. Same goes with anabolic steroids. Emotionally screwed people take it to feel like a god while on it. However, afterwards they feel bad, if not worse, than they were before.

This seems like a waste of a post...

You can get a girlfriend.

ANd your life has a much meaning as you are happy with it.

Yes, they are happy and therefore are content with their life. Dont need to become a PUA and change everything about their life if they are content.

U see, when you cant attract women, at least one, we are not happy. We all want to be liked by women, and even more so to be wanted by them.