awkward pause after opener



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:02 pm 
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hey guys,
i'm currently trying to improve my game.
the main problem i've been noticing lately is the time after the opener. unlike many others (i guess), i never had problems with approach anxiety, and i open sets ~90% of the time (which could be better, but i'm ok with that right now). but i tend to lose sets because there's often this awkward pause after the opener is "discussed" (in case it doesn't lead to a direct conversation).
what's the best way to avoid this (without asking boring questions like where she's from, how she likes the club etc.)? how do you do it?


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So how do you guys all know each other?

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I've done a lot of theory work just reading about this stuff but I’m a complete newbie to all this. After you are successful in an opener from what I understand you need to demonstrate your higher value to the girl and possibly neg her if she is a HB7+ You don't need to neg a girl anything below 7 because her brain chemistry is wired differently from the attention shes not used to getting and wants.

After you have demonstrated HV (And make sure it’s not BRAGING) you need to be watching out for interest, playing with the hair, she might mirror you, her shoulders will be aligned with yours, smiling, talkative, leaning. Never try take a girl into the comfort zone if she does not give these signals she’s not interested. If a girl shows interest don't just sit and watch and let her carry on all night, reward her signs of interest back it should be a 2 way thing at this point.

In social dynamics here is what a girl looks for when you are demonstrating higher value.

1. Pre selected (You have had relationships or being chased)
2. Protector of loved ones
3. Leader of men (confidence, ability to communicate)
4. Ability to remote (sound state of mind, don't be afraid to get annoyed if it’s just)


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dont wait til they finish discusing it...cut them off and ask how they know each other, or notice something about one of them and discuss that ("hey, you have an intresting energy about you, i bet i could tell x about you by y.). Insert another routine, cold reading, even another opener.

Dont wait during the attraction phrase for people to talk things to death, let them get a few words in then lead the convo where you want it

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Sometimes the awkward pause can be overcome simply by having a routinue completly worked out. Meaning opener, some story or shift that compliments your opener just in case the pause starts to happen. This also can help build confidence knowing you have a back up plan in case the set lulls. Basically a plan B if the conversation dosent keep going.


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